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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2023 0:10:10 GMT
I disagree with that. I never heard of her till The Mandalorian.
Not piggybacking on any complaining mind you. I never watched any of the animated shows and only a handful of the new live action ones, so my viewing experience will probably be different. I didn't know Anakin had an apprentice either, but whole decades pass off screen so it makes sense to me what we see isn't all there is.
He didn't.
It's the same thing with the Obi Wan show, which I actually enjoyed, but runs into the same kinda issues. Obi Wan and Vader never had some secret fight (let alone 2) in between the two trilogies. Back in the day we had books and comics. Hell, we still do. I've read and even liked some of them. Marvel's Star Wars comics are pretty good. But they are just there. They exist. They aren't at the forefront and they generally don't contradict anything. These shows? They are rife contradictions and things we all know never happened. They are loud and proud about it too. They are all over sites like IGN and Collider. Back when it was just books and comics? They just existed. Even Lucas looked at it like an alternate universe:
I'm honestly fine with it. I resigned myself ages ago to knowing there's a whole Star Wars universe I don't know about. I've never read a Star Wars book or played a Star Wars game. To me the world of Star Wars I need to know about is in the movies. The shows are bound to make slip-ups but they're also in a position of filling the gaps, so it's a universe in progress. It's creative license. If they depicted a light saber duel between Obi Wan and Vader when Luke was a child, then it happened. It happened because they made it.
I don't think it's a contradiction as much as it fills a void with content that wasn't there before.
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Post by kuatorises on Sept 5, 2023 13:30:28 GMT
He didn't.
It's the same thing with the Obi Wan show, which I actually enjoyed, but runs into the same kinda issues. Obi Wan and Vader never had some secret fight (let alone 2) in between the two trilogies. Back in the day we had books and comics. Hell, we still do. I've read and even liked some of them. Marvel's Star Wars comics are pretty good. But they are just there. They exist. They aren't at the forefront and they generally don't contradict anything. These shows? They are rife contradictions and things we all know never happened. They are loud and proud about it too. They are all over sites like IGN and Collider. Back when it was just books and comics? They just existed. Even Lucas looked at it like an alternate universe:
I'm honestly fine with it. I resigned myself ages ago to knowing there's a whole Star Wars universe I don't know about. I've never read a Star Wars book or played a Star Wars game. To me the world of Star Wars I need to know about is in the movies. The shows are bound to make slip-ups but they're also in a position of filling the gaps, so it's a universe in progress. It's creative license. If they depicted a light saber duel between Obi Wan and Vader when Luke was a child, then it happened. It happened because they made it.
I don't think it's a contradiction as much as it fills a void with content that wasn't there before.
I don't object to expanded universes, I object to them being poorly made.
That's exactly what it is. This
is clearly a reference to this:
Vader is talking about the moment that changed his life: when Obi Wan maimed him. Not some secret fight they had on Tatooine. Never happened. Neither did Obi Wan saving "Baby Leia" on some secret mission. He peaced out and hid for 30 years. They never met. Anyone who has seen the first two trilogies knows these things.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Sept 21, 2023 22:36:52 GMT
I'm honestly fine with it. I resigned myself ages ago to knowing there's a whole Star Wars universe I don't know about. I've never read a Star Wars book or played a Star Wars game. To me the world of Star Wars I need to know about is in the movies. The shows are bound to make slip-ups but they're also in a position of filling the gaps, so it's a universe in progress. It's creative license. If they depicted a light saber duel between Obi Wan and Vader when Luke was a child, then it happened. It happened because they made it.
I don't think it's a contradiction as much as it fills a void with content that wasn't there before.
I don't object to expanded universes, I object to them being poorly made.
That's exactly what it is. This
is clearly a reference to this:
Vader is talking about the moment that changed his life: when Obi Wan maimed him. Not some secret fight they had on Tatooine. Never happened. Neither did Obi Wan saving "Baby Leia" on some secret mission. He peaced out and hid for 30 years. They never met. Anyone who has seen the first two trilogies knows these things.
I actually agree with you here, which is why it’s odd to me that the Obi-Wan show seems to contradict the movies as a prequel to the original trilogy. It’s no secret that you don’t like Clone Wars/Rebels existence, but they jump through some wicked (and sometimes ridiculous) hoops to not contradict anything said or done in Revenge of the Sith onward. (Though of course the Maul resurrection was a huge retcon)
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Post by kuatorises on Sept 22, 2023 17:30:22 GMT
I don't object to expanded universes, I object to them being poorly made.
That's exactly what it is. This
is clearly a reference to this:
Vader is talking about the moment that changed his life: when Obi Wan maimed him. Not some secret fight they had on Tatooine. Never happened. Neither did Obi Wan saving "Baby Leia" on some secret mission. He peaced out and hid for 30 years. They never met. Anyone who has seen the first two trilogies knows these things.
I actually agree with you here, which is why it’s odd to me that the Obi-Wan show seems to contradict the movies as a prequel to the original trilogy. It’s no secret that you don’t like Clone Wars/Rebels existence, but they jump through some wicked (and sometimes ridiculous) hoops to not contradict anything said or done in Revenge of the Sith onward. (Though of course the Maul resurrection was a huge retcon) I enjoyed Obi Wan, but yeah. I'm torn on that because I liked it, but yeah, that stuff clearly never happened. They never fought between the two trilogies, Obi Wan never met Leia as a kid, Vader never had an apprentice, and Anakin never fought Dooku between Eps. II and III. This shit never happened:
and it's blatantly obvious:
His comments in Ep. III is clearly a reference to when Dooku (handily) beat him.
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