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Post by petrolino on Aug 17, 2023 2:58:49 GMT
The Labour Party in the U K is proud of its diversity having had leaders like Welshman Neil Kinnock and Scotman John Smith in my lifetime.
Has the Labour Party had a leader from Northern Ireland?
Thanks!
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Post by Prince Myshkin on Aug 17, 2023 4:39:56 GMT
I'd like some clarification on this. But the Labour Party has a dodgy history in Northern Ireland. It's not even official there. So obviously in the UK as a whole, Irish are not even players in the Labour Party. Queer. |
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Post by Nogbad on Aug 17, 2023 10:05:41 GMT
Putting aside my feelings about that utterly useless, pandering party hack Smith for a moment, well almost, off the top of my head I don't think so.
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Post by Stammerhead on Aug 17, 2023 10:35:02 GMT
Closest I’ve seen so far is George Brown who’s father had Irish origins.
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Post by mowlick on Aug 17, 2023 10:37:33 GMT
Putting aside my feelings about that utterly useless, pandering party hack Smith for a moment, well almost, off the top of my head I don't think so. I liked Smith, who had the sense to die before he might have been forced to show that he was THE GREATEST PM BRITAIN NEVER HAD.
How about Boris, who might easily have stood in the Labour party interest if it were to his advantage and who was born in New York, which is chock a block full of Irish ?
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Post by Carl LaFong on Aug 17, 2023 11:44:39 GMT
Putting aside my feelings about that utterly useless, pandering party hack Smith for a moment, well almost, off the top of my head I don't think so. I liked Smith, who had the sense to die before he might have been forced to show that he was THE GREATEST PM BRITAIN NEVER HAD.
How about Boris, who might easily have stood in the Labour party interest if it were to his advantage and who was born in New York, which is chock a block full of Irish ?
Johnson has far more Turkish DNA than Irish. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2023 13:13:29 GMT
I'd like some clarification on this. But the Labour Party has a dodgy history in Northern Ireland. It's not even official there. So obviously in the UK as a whole, Irish are not even players in the Labour Party. Queer. The Labour Party doesn't stand in NI for three reasons: 1. It is allied with the NI Social Democratic and Labour Party (SDLP) and so has an understanding that they will not run candidates against them. A similar arrangement exists between the Lib Dems and the Alliance Party. Oddly, the Tories do run in NI despite also having an allied party in the Ulster Unionist party (UUP). They always do terribly. 2. Standing in NI could cause issues as Labour broadly supports NI remaining part of the UK at least until a border poll suggests otherwise. This could mean that if it stood in NI, it would be seen as a unionist party which it probably wants to avoid. 3. People in NI probably wouldn't vote for them so it would mean bad publicity and lost deposits. What's interesting is the LPNI actually has a fairly sizeable membership - which rocketed when Corbyn became leader. NI also used to have its own Labour Party but it died off in the early days of the Troubles when left wingers largely moved towards more green and orange parties. There's definitely potential there for something. There have been Labour MPs who originally came from NI though - unfortunately one of them was Kate Hoey. |
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Post by yggdrasil on Aug 17, 2023 15:45:18 GMT
I'd like some clarification on this. But the Labour Party has a dodgy history in Northern Ireland. It's not even official there. So obviously in the UK as a whole, Irish are not even players in the Labour Party. Queer. The Labour Party doesn't stand in NI for three reasons: 1. It is allied with the NI Social Democratic and Labour Party (SDLP) and so has an understanding that they will not run candidates against them. A similar arrangement exists between the Lib Dems and the Alliance Party. Oddly, the Tories do run in NI despite also having an allied party in the Ulster Unionist party (UUP). They always do terribly. 2. Standing in NI could cause issues as Labour broadly supports NI remaining part of the UK at least until a border poll suggests otherwise. This could mean that if it stood in NI, it would be seen as a unionist party which it probably wants to avoid. 3. People in NI probably wouldn't vote for them so it would mean bad publicity and lost deposits. What's interesting is the LPNI actually has a fairly sizeable membership - which rocketed when Corbyn became leader. NI also used to have its own Labour Party but it died off in the early days of the Troubles when left wingers largely moved towards more green and orange parties. There's definitely potential there for something. There have been Labour MPs who originally came from NI though - unfortunately one of them was Kate Hoey. Big fan of ripping foxes to pieces old Kate. She's definitely in the wrong party. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2023 9:20:56 GMT
The Labour Party doesn't stand in NI for three reasons: 1. It is allied with the NI Social Democratic and Labour Party (SDLP) and so has an understanding that they will not run candidates against them. A similar arrangement exists between the Lib Dems and the Alliance Party. Oddly, the Tories do run in NI despite also having an allied party in the Ulster Unionist party (UUP). They always do terribly. 2. Standing in NI could cause issues as Labour broadly supports NI remaining part of the UK at least until a border poll suggests otherwise. This could mean that if it stood in NI, it would be seen as a unionist party which it probably wants to avoid. 3. People in NI probably wouldn't vote for them so it would mean bad publicity and lost deposits. What's interesting is the LPNI actually has a fairly sizeable membership - which rocketed when Corbyn became leader. NI also used to have its own Labour Party but it died off in the early days of the Troubles when left wingers largely moved towards more green and orange parties. There's definitely potential there for something. There have been Labour MPs who originally came from NI though - unfortunately one of them was Kate Hoey. Big fan of ripping foxes to pieces old Kate. She's definitely in the wrong party. Hoey is an odd duck - I really can't make sense of her politics whatsoever. |
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