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Post by slowcomingwarbird on Aug 31, 2018 2:19:24 GMT
Here is why 4K television is more stupid than 1080p, because basically you are throwing your money away.
No human can actually measurably see the difference between 4K and 1080p, except for that weird effect
where things moving at regular speed look like they are moving in slow motion because of the increased frame rate.
So here is why Hollywood and the copyright billionaires want to push 4K format.
Because that way you can't use your home computer to edit video if the source is in 4K.
Which editing 4K video content requires very expensive studio editing equipment
such as this $7000 dollar video preprocessor card.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Aug 31, 2018 5:20:35 GMT
No human can actually measurably see the difference between 4K and 1080p, Depends what size screen you are watching them on. Trying watching an SD TV transmission on a cinema screen and you'll easily see the difference. Same reason why digital cameras are not as good as film cameras for making huge posters. except for that weird effect where things moving at regular speed look like they are moving in slow motion because of the increased frame rate. I see blurriness but not slow motion. That also happens to stationary objects when the camera pans. Too avoid, you need a better TV which has a higher screen refresh rate (to match the camera's FPS) so the motion is smooth. Such refresh rates usually come with higher definition TV's, so there's your justification, as you mention. Try watching The Hobbit films, which are in high definition and double the normal FPS rate, on an Ultra-HD TV and you will see the difference. The picture is just stunning. In summary, I don't think 4k TVs are stupid at all - I love 'em. |
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Post by yggdrasil on Sept 17, 2018 15:42:02 GMT
No human can actually measurably see the difference between 4K and 1080p, Depends what size screen you are watching them on. Trying watching an SD TV transmission on a cinema screen and you'll easily see the difference. Same reason why digital cameras are not as good as film cameras for making huge posters. except for that weird effect where things moving at regular speed look like they are moving in slow motion because of the increased frame rate. I see blurriness but not slow motion. That also happens to stationary objects when the camera pans. Too avoid, you need a better TV which has a higher screen refresh rate (to match the camera's FPS) so the motion is smooth. Such refresh rates usually come with higher definition TV's, so there's your justification, as you mention. Try watching The Hobbit films, which are in high definition and double the normal FPS rate, on an Ultra-HD TV and you will see the difference. The picture is just stunning. In summary, I don't think 4k TVs are stupid at all - I love 'em. I love mine too, got a 55" Samsung 4k with a Samsung soundbar and sub-woofer (which makes a huuuge difference, the house almost rumbles) Got a 4k blu ray player and a collection of about 12 4k discs. |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Sept 17, 2018 15:47:26 GMT
I love mine too, got a 55" Samsung 4k with a Samsung soundbar and sub-woofer (which makes a huuuge difference, the house almost rumbles) Got a 4k blu ray player and a collection of about 12 4k discs. I'm starting to see films for rent on Google Play etc in 4k. Presumably that means the Blue Ray players will be redundant or is there more to them? |
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Post by yggdrasil on Sept 17, 2018 18:24:34 GMT
I love mine too, got a 55" Samsung 4k with a Samsung soundbar and sub-woofer (which makes a huuuge difference, the house almost rumbles) Got a 4k blu ray player and a collection of about 12 4k discs. I'm starting to see films for rent on Google Play etc in 4k. Presumably that means the Blue Ray players will be redundant or is there more to them? Streamed 4k content from Netflix etc. Is nowhere near the quality of UHD 4k blu ray discs and the sound is even further behind. Plus you get to keep the discs forever. Contrary to belief 4k discs and players are performing above expectation in the UK at least. A decent 4k player will also upscale normal blu rays also. |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Sept 17, 2018 18:26:11 GMT
]Streamed 4k content from Netflix etc. Is nowhere near the quality of UHD 4k blu ray discs and the sound is even further behind. Plus you get to keep the discs forever. Contrary to belief 4k discs and players are performing above expectation in the UK at least. A decent 4k player will also upscale normal blu rays also. How much for a player? How much for a disc? |
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Post by yggdrasil on Sept 17, 2018 19:38:03 GMT
]Streamed 4k content from Netflix etc. Is nowhere near the quality of UHD 4k blu ray discs and the sound is even further behind. Plus you get to keep the discs forever. Contrary to belief 4k discs and players are performing above expectation in the UK at least. A decent 4k player will also upscale normal blu rays also. How much for a player? How much for a disc? I got my player in a sale, was about £160, the discs are overpriced at present so I wait till they've been out a while and pay around £17. That said not many films necessarily benefit from the format. A low budget talky drama would be a waste of time, but the BBC Planet Earth box set has to be seen to be believed. The new Blade Runner is astonishing as is Revenant, the only one that has slightly disappointed was the rescaled re-release of "Unforgiven" which although a big step up, didn't really blow me away. |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Sept 17, 2018 19:47:45 GMT
I got my player in a sale, was about £160, the discs are overpriced at present so I wait till they've been out a while and pay around £17. That said not many films necessarily benefit from the format. A low budget talky drama would be a waste of time, but the BBC Planet Earth box set has to be seen to be believed. The new Blade Runner is astonishing as is Revenant, the only one that has slightly disappointed was the rescaled re-release of "Unforgiven" which although a big step up, didn't really blow me away. Cheers, mister. |
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Post by yggdrasil on Oct 5, 2018 13:15:39 GMT
I got my player in a sale, was about £160, the discs are overpriced at present so I wait till they've been out a while and pay around £17. That said not many films necessarily benefit from the format. A low budget talky drama would be a waste of time, but the BBC Planet Earth box set has to be seen to be believed. The new Blade Runner is astonishing as is Revenant, the only one that has slightly disappointed was the rescaled re-release of "Unforgiven" which although a big step up, didn't really blow me away. Cheers, mister. 2001 A Space Odyssey gets a 4k release later this month. May have to splash out for this. Warner Bros. Home Entertainment will release the Blu-ray as part of the ongoing 50th anniversary of the film. For the first time since the original theatrical release, new 70mm prints were created from elements made from the original camera negative. Filmmaker Christopher Nolan worked with the team at Warner Bros. during the mastering process. The 4K UHD with HDR presentation was “mastered from the 65mm original camera negative. The 4K UHD also includes both a remixed and restored 5.1 DTS-HD master audio track, as well as the original 1968 6-track theatrical audio mix (formatted for 5.1 DTS-HD master audio).” That’s a lot of technical jargon to say this is going to look really freakin’ good, folks. |
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Post by buzzkillington on Oct 19, 2018 19:55:03 GMT
To me, they look funny. I really love the look of old films remastered or scanned digitally, or whatever it's called, they look beautiful.
New films shot digitally look like a video game.
Not sure what it is.
I saw the remastered Star Wars scanned from 70mm film, and holy hell!
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Oct 20, 2018 8:01:48 GMT
To me, they look funny. I really love the look of old films remastered or scanned digitally, or whatever it's called, they look beautiful. New films shot digitally look like a video game. Not sure what it is. I saw the remastered Star Wars scanned from 70mm film, and holy hell! I know what you mean, when I first got mine and watched a film, I was "what the fuck is this?? Am I watching TV? Where are the grains??" Wouldn't go back now, though. |
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Post by yggdrasil on Oct 21, 2018 12:15:32 GMT
To me, they look funny. I really love the look of old films remastered or scanned digitally, or whatever it's called, they look beautiful. New films shot digitally look like a video game. Not sure what it is. I saw the remastered Star Wars scanned from 70mm film, and holy hell! I know what you mean, when I first got mine and watched a film, I was "what the fuck is this?? Am I watching TV? Where are the grains??" Wouldn't go back now, though. Yep, so true, they call it the "soap opera" effect. Your brain quickly adapts to it though. |
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Post by yggdrasil on Nov 1, 2018 12:29:11 GMT
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Post by Joc Spader on Nov 1, 2018 16:58:52 GMT
Is that Turtle from Entourage?
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