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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2023 20:50:50 GMT
Watching for the first time… and giving up after episode one.
First, who needs a legacy Hawkeye? I had underestimated just how little screen time original Hawkeye has. And I don’t give a damn about the new one.
Second, Kate has very little character development or personality. And it’s very difficult to get invested in her story- despite the apparent villain being played by the awesome Tony Dalton. She can also somehow fight like a damn ninja despite any reason given for it. Which is just completely stupid.
Third, it’s just a really uninteresting dull premise with no reason to care. Absolute filler. Maybe it gets better but it’s already completely lost me.
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Post by politicidal1 on Aug 27, 2023 0:04:24 GMT
So what you're saying is...they should do a Young Avengers movie instead? ![[tongue]](http://storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/IgLQhqrYFakygiihCBvT.gif) |
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Post by Catman on Aug 27, 2023 0:10:04 GMT
So what you're saying is...they should do a Young Avengers movie instead? Maybe a movie focusing on their hijinks as toddlers in a daycare run by Maybelle Parker-Jameson? |
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Post by Power Ranger on Aug 27, 2023 1:04:05 GMT
But it makes you excited for Echo, right?
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Post by anwar on Aug 27, 2023 3:13:01 GMT
Watching for the first time… and giving up after episode one. First, who needs a legacy Hawkeye? I had underestimated just how little screen time original Hawkeye has. And I don’t give a damn about the new one. Second, Kate has very little character development or personality. And it’s very difficult to get invested in her story- despite the apparent villain being played by the awesome Tony Dalton. She can also somehow fight like a damn ninja despite any reason given for it. Which is just completely stupid. Third, it’s just a really uninteresting dull premise with no reason to care. Absolute filler. Maybe it gets better but it’s already completely lost me. So you went in wanting to hate it, got it |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2023 18:12:38 GMT
Watching for the first time… and giving up after episode one. First, who needs a legacy Hawkeye? I had underestimated just how little screen time original Hawkeye has. And I don’t give a damn about the new one. Second, Kate has very little character development or personality. And it’s very difficult to get invested in her story- despite the apparent villain being played by the awesome Tony Dalton. She can also somehow fight like a damn ninja despite any reason given for it. Which is just completely stupid. Third, it’s just a really uninteresting dull premise with no reason to care. Absolute filler. Maybe it gets better but it’s already completely lost me. So you went in wanting to hate it, got it No. But I did come into this thread wanting to hate you. And you made that very easy. |
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Post by skaathar on Aug 28, 2023 17:50:03 GMT
Hawkeye was one of the better D+ MCU shows in my opinion, but that's also because most of the D+ MCU shows were pretty crap. So not exactly a high bar to be better than average. Hawkeye improves greatly once Yelena joins the team.
I did appreciate that Kate was not depicted as a Mary Sue, so that's a plus.
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Post by kuatorises on Aug 28, 2023 22:59:04 GMT
Hawkeye was one of the better D+ MCU shows in my opinion, but that's also because most of the D+ MCU shows were pretty crap. So not exactly a high bar to be better than average. Hawkeye improves greatly once Yelena joins the team. I did appreciate that Kate was not depicted as a Mary Sue, so that's a plus. Most?
Hawkeye was shockingly awesome. Loved it. Plan on watching it around Christmas.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2023 0:08:25 GMT
Hawkeye was one of the better D+ MCU shows in my opinion, but that's also because most of the D+ MCU shows were pretty crap. So not exactly a high bar to be better than average. Hawkeye improves greatly once Yelena joins the team. I did appreciate that Kate was not depicted as a Mary Sue, so that's a plus. Granted I have only seen the first episode. But Kate defeating a gang with the fighting skills of a ninja (despite, as far as I know, not being trained in fighting skills) seemed very Mary Sue-ish to me. |
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Post by skaathar on Aug 29, 2023 0:14:46 GMT
Hawkeye was one of the better D+ MCU shows in my opinion, but that's also because most of the D+ MCU shows were pretty crap. So not exactly a high bar to be better than average. Hawkeye improves greatly once Yelena joins the team. I did appreciate that Kate was not depicted as a Mary Sue, so that's a plus. Granted I have only seen the first episode. But Kate defeating a gang with the fighting skills of a ninja (despite, as far as I know, not being trained in fighting skills) seemed very Mary Sue-ish to me. IIRC, there were multiple hints shown in the episodes about how Kate has been training in martial arts and archery since she was a kid and has won multiple competitions. Granted that's usually not enough to defeat an entire gang on your own in the real world, but it's a better explanation than given to most modern femme fatales. A lot of modern female leads can just beat up guys with zero explanation to their skillset. So we at least know where she got her skills, and later on in the show she does mess up and bungle things quite a bit. |
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Post by skaathar on Aug 29, 2023 0:16:58 GMT
Hawkeye was one of the better D+ MCU shows in my opinion, but that's also because most of the D+ MCU shows were pretty crap. So not exactly a high bar to be better than average. Hawkeye improves greatly once Yelena joins the team. I did appreciate that Kate was not depicted as a Mary Sue, so that's a plus. Most?
Hawkeye was shockingly awesome. Loved it. Plan on watching it around Christmas.
"Shockingly awesome" is much too high a praise I think. The best I could say about it was "pleasantly surprised", and that's mostly because my expectations for this show were really low after seeing the previous D+ outings. I had more fun with it than I expected but I'm nowhere near to loving it. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2023 2:13:38 GMT
Hawkeye was one of the better D+ MCU shows in my opinion, but that's also because most of the D+ MCU shows were pretty crap. So not exactly a high bar to be better than average. Hawkeye improves greatly once Yelena joins the team. I did appreciate that Kate was not depicted as a Mary Sue, so that's a plus. Most?
Hawkeye was shockingly awesome. Loved it. Plan on watching it around Christmas.
At what point does it become shockingly awesome? I know that sounds sarcastic (because it kind of is! ![[tongue2]](http://storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/AGsffUOkhRAjWExSoTGN.gif) ). But I’m also genuinely asking, because I may give it another chance before my subscription is up. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2023 2:16:43 GMT
Granted I have only seen the first episode. But Kate defeating a gang with the fighting skills of a ninja (despite, as far as I know, not being trained in fighting skills) seemed very Mary Sue-ish to me. IIRC, there were multiple hints shown in the episodes about how Kate has been training in martial arts and archery since she was a kid and has won multiple competitions. Granted that's usually not enough to defeat an entire gang on your own in the real world, but it's a better explanation than given to most modern femme fatales. A lot of modern female leads can just beat up guys with zero explanation to their skillset. So we at least know where she got her skills, and later on in the show she does mess up and bungle things quite a bit. I suppose that’s something. But the fight in the wine cellar still felt like classic Mary Sue stuff for me. And honestly, it’s just always dumb to see a tiny teenage girl beat up multiple grown men. It’s just awkwardly unrealistic. Obviously I’m aware this is a comic book show but still. I’ll accept her arrowing the baddies, but the masterful ninja stuff lost me. |
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Post by kuatorises on Aug 29, 2023 13:34:48 GMT
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Hawkeye was shockingly awesome. Loved it. Plan on watching it around Christmas.
, and that's mostly because my expectations for this show were really low after seeing the previous D+ outings.
I had more fun with it than I expected but I'm nowhere near to loving it. This is semantics. If you wanna argue over us both liking a show we didn't expect to, have at it. I'm not interested. |
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Post by skaathar on Aug 29, 2023 15:10:16 GMT
"Shockingly awesome" is much too high a praise I think. The best I could say about it was "pleasantly surprised", and that's mostly because my expectations for this show were really low after seeing the previous D+ outings.
I had more fun with it than I expected but I'm nowhere near to loving it. This is semantics. If you wanna argue over us both liking a show we didn't expect to, have at it. I'm not interested. Hey man, you're the one who responded to my post. If you're not interested in discussing our different opinions then just don't reply to me. |
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