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Post by Mulder and Scully on Sept 21, 2023 20:34:41 GMT
Just because I like American entertainment doesn't give Americans the right to be racist. Going by your logic, why are so many American factories in China? I thought America hated China. Why does America continues to deal with Saudi Arabia? Most of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi. Why does America still has Pakistan as an ally? The mastermind of 9/11 was found hiding in Pakistan. I think you’re missing the point, if you truly don’t like America or Americans, you shouldn’t consume products of a culture of people you don’t like, right? Why would you? Don’t you find it objectionable and racist or whatever? American factories are in China because companies choose to build them there. Most of us don’t hate the Chinese but we do hate their government, as all moral and decent humans do. RE: Saudis - that’s the government making that choice, not a poll of all of us. My example is about YOU making that choice. You have control over yourself, I don’t and virtually none of us have control over where Apple makes its product. I think you should put your money where your mouth is and consume cultures that aren’t American. That would make it so you aren’t a hypocrite. This reminds of a scene from an American movie that highlights American arrogance in a comedic way: "Jean Girard: Well, what have you given the world apart from George Bush, Cheerios, and the ThighMaster? Ricky Bobby: Chinese food? Cal Naughton, Jr.: Chinese food. Jean Girard: That's from China. Ricky Bobby: Pizza. Jean Girard: Italy. Cal Naughton, Jr.: Chimichanga. Jean Girard: Mexico. Ricky Bobby: Really, smarty-pants? What did French land give us? Jean Girard: We invented democracy, existentialism, and the ménage à trois." "American culture" is an amalgamation of other cultures. A country built by immigrants. |
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Post by OfUnknownOrigins on Sept 21, 2023 20:41:31 GMT
I think you’re missing the point, if you truly don’t like America or Americans, you shouldn’t consume products of a culture of people you don’t like, right? Why would you? Don’t you find it objectionable and racist or whatever? American factories are in China because companies choose to build them there. Most of us don’t hate the Chinese but we do hate their government, as all moral and decent humans do. RE: Saudis - that’s the government making that choice, not a poll of all of us. My example is about YOU making that choice. You have control over yourself, I don’t and virtually none of us have control over where Apple makes its product. I think you should put your money where your mouth is and consume cultures that aren’t American. That would make it so you aren’t a hypocrite. This reminds of a scene from an American movie that highlights American arrogance in a comedic way: "Jean Girard: Well, what have you given the world apart from George Bush, Cheerios, and the ThighMaster? Ricky Bobby: Chinese food? Cal Naughton, Jr.: Chinese food. Jean Girard: That's from China. Ricky Bobby: Pizza. Jean Girard: Italy. Cal Naughton, Jr.: Chimichanga. Jean Girard: Mexico. Ricky Bobby: Really, smarty-pants? What did French land give us? Jean Girard: We invented democracy, existentialism, and the ménage à trois." "American culture" is an amalgamation of other cultures. A country built by immigrants. I see, so is American arrogance, as you put it, just a product of these immigrants from all over? In other words, does that mean everyone has arrogance no matter where they’re from? Also, I can name a few things Americans have given the world: the internet GPS interchangeable parts Btw, that scene is also meant to show French arrogance. Glad you enjoy our comedies though. I’m a Will Ferrell fan too. |
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Post by Mulder and Scully on Sept 21, 2023 20:48:59 GMT
This reminds of a scene from an American movie that highlights American arrogance in a comedic way: "Jean Girard: Well, what have you given the world apart from George Bush, Cheerios, and the ThighMaster? Ricky Bobby: Chinese food? Cal Naughton, Jr.: Chinese food. Jean Girard: That's from China. Ricky Bobby: Pizza. Jean Girard: Italy. Cal Naughton, Jr.: Chimichanga. Jean Girard: Mexico. Ricky Bobby: Really, smarty-pants? What did French land give us? Jean Girard: We invented democracy, existentialism, and the ménage à trois." "American culture" is an amalgamation of other cultures. A country built by immigrants. I see, so is American arrogance, as you put it, just a product of these immigrants from all over? In other words, does that mean everyone has arrogance no matter where they’re from? Also, I can name a few things Americans have given the world: the internet GPS interchangeable parts Btw, that scene is also meant to show French arrogance. Glad you enjoy our comedies though. I’m a Will Ferrell fan too. It's about American arrogance and hypocrisy. Immigrants built your country yet you trash them. Black people regularly dominate at the Olympics yet you trash them. You ride the coattails of others and slap "America" on them. |
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Post by peachy on Sept 21, 2023 20:58:19 GMT
I see, so is American arrogance, as you put it, just a product of these immigrants from all over? In other words, does that mean everyone has arrogance no matter where they’re from? Also, I can name a few things Americans have given the world: the internet GPS interchangeable parts Btw, that scene is also meant to show French arrogance. Glad you enjoy our comedies though. I’m a Will Ferrell fan too. It's about American arrogance and hypocrisy. Immigrants built your country yet you trash them. Black people regularly dominate at the Olympics yet you trash them. You ride the coattails of others and slap "America" on them. Are you saying those immigrants and black Olympians shouldn't be called Americans? And who are you saying is trashing them? Nobody is trashing immigrants unless they're here illegally. Black Americans are Americans too. |
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Post by slowcomingwarbird on Sept 21, 2023 20:59:17 GMT
But you don’t find that hypocritical to be anti-American yet at the same time consume and presumably enjoy the culture of people you don’t like? Just because I like American entertainment doesn't give Americans the right to be racist. Going by your logic, why are so many American factories in China? I thought America hated China. Why does America continues to deal with Saudi Arabia? Most of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi. Why does America still has Pakistan as an ally? The mastermind of 9/11 was found hiding in Pakistan. How's that for hypocrisy? Like it or not, the nations that control most of the world oil supply still get to call most of the shots. Regardless if you are talking about Saudi Arabia withholding oil from the United States in the 1970's or now it is the same old game for the same old reasons. Every world war at it's core has always really been about the security of the world energy and food supply. World war 3 which has already unofficially started is no exception as oil and food supply issues are causing inflation to spiral out of control. |
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Post by peachy on Sept 21, 2023 20:59:37 GMT
I would say it's an indication of a modern society where people don't have to live the rest of their lives in misery, and can get divorced. I'm betting the countries with low divorce rates are oppressive and ass-backwards. Then why marry if your lives are going to be miserable together? And to only end in divorce. Because shit happens. Maybe one fell out of love, or things didn't work out. |
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Post by OfUnknownOrigins on Sept 21, 2023 21:00:59 GMT
I see, so is American arrogance, as you put it, just a product of these immigrants from all over? In other words, does that mean everyone has arrogance no matter where they’re from? Also, I can name a few things Americans have given the world: the internet GPS interchangeable parts Btw, that scene is also meant to show French arrogance. Glad you enjoy our comedies though. I’m a Will Ferrell fan too. It's about American arrogance and hypocrisy. Immigrants built your country yet you trash them. Black people regularly dominate at the Olympics yet you trash them. You ride the coattails of others and slap "America" on them. So no one born in the US has helped build it? I’m confused. Am I an immigrant? The black people wearing the US flag, who dominate the summer Olympics, are Americans, too. We’re not riding their coattails. They’re us. We’re the same country. Unless you’re suggesting that Black Americans aren’t real Americans? That indeed would be racist to think that way. Who else does America ride the coattails of besides other Americans? |
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Post by Mulder and Scully on Sept 21, 2023 21:23:50 GMT
It's about American arrogance and hypocrisy. Immigrants built your country yet you trash them. Black people regularly dominate at the Olympics yet you trash them. You ride the coattails of others and slap "America" on them. Are you saying those immigrants and black Olympians shouldn't be called Americans? And who are you saying is trashing them? Nobody is trashing immigrants unless they're here illegally. Black Americans are Americans too. I'm aware of how badly blacks are treated in America. |
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Post by peachy on Sept 21, 2023 21:29:15 GMT
Are you saying those immigrants and black Olympians shouldn't be called Americans? And who are you saying is trashing them? Nobody is trashing immigrants unless they're here illegally. Black Americans are Americans too. I'm aware of how badly blacks are treated in America. Do you see them fighting to get out? Should they go to Latin America? |
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Post by mrellaguru on Sept 21, 2023 21:30:23 GMT
It's about American arrogance and hypocrisy. Immigrants built your country yet you trash them. Black people regularly dominate at the Olympics yet you trash them. You ride the coattails of others and slap "America" on them. Are you saying those immigrants and black Olympians shouldn't be called Americans? And who are you saying is trashing them? Nobody is trashing immigrants unless they're here illegally. Black Americans are Americans too.
Trump complained about too many immigrants from "shithole countries" and wondered why not more immigrants from countries like Norway.
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Post by Lux on Sept 21, 2023 21:32:52 GMT
Are you saying those immigrants and black Olympians shouldn't be called Americans? And who are you saying is trashing them? Nobody is trashing immigrants unless they're here illegally. Black Americans are Americans too.
Strange because it isn't conservatives that hate Vivek Ramaswamy a successful non white man in the United States. |
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Post by peachy on Sept 21, 2023 21:37:06 GMT
Are you saying those immigrants and black Olympians shouldn't be called Americans? And who are you saying is trashing them? Nobody is trashing immigrants unless they're here illegally. Black Americans are Americans too.
I have known some very racist Democrats. A few have gotten caught in public, but excused. Look at all the racist crap Biden has gotten away with because he's a Democrat. To say that illegals aren't wanted here because of their skin tone (which some liberals have claimed) is a lie. They should come to California and other border cities. Plenty of brown people here who are here legally. And it's BECAUSE of all this illegal immigration that some say we need a moratorium on immigration. Legal immigrants have suffered because of illegal immigration. |
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