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Post by movieliker on Jan 21, 2018 8:44:26 GMT
No. The law says if somebody enters your car in a threatening manner, you have the right to use deadly force. Just like your house. Gasser said McKnight leaned into his car. McKnight's blood was found inside Gasser's car. Leading police to believe it was lawful self-defense. And Louisiana is a stand your ground state. No lawful requirement to flee a threat. Whether he was telling the whole truth or not is open to question. How do you live in such a retarded state? Nice food, awful people. Well, that is a matter of opinion. I think the Castle Doctrine (right to protect one's property) and Stand Your Ground (no legal obligation to flee a threat) are good rules. And most people who visit New Orleans say one of the best things about New Orleans is the people. |
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Post by ebuzzmiller on Jan 21, 2018 11:32:54 GMT
I liked New Orleans, but it is a bit of a tourist trap kind of city so I expect the people to be nice.
See I can understand the defending one's property aspect, but if such a law becomes a shield where murder or manslaughter is dismissed easily then it seriously needs some fine tuning.
I mean after all the idea of being in danger or having one's life at risk where deadly force is a first response is entirely subjective.
Especially so in a case like this where we're only able to hear one first hand account of the incident.
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Post by ayatollah on Jan 21, 2018 13:31:47 GMT
No. The law says if somebody enters your car in a threatening manner, you have the right to use deadly force. Just like your house. Gasser said McKnight leaned into his car. McKnight's blood was found inside Gasser's car. Leading police to believe it was lawful self-defense. And Louisiana is a stand your ground state. No lawful requirement to flee a threat. Whether he was telling the whole truth or not is open to question. How do you live in such a retarded state? Nice food, awful people. The whole truth, huh? So if Gasser lied about what he had for breakfast that morning it cancels out the blood splatter evidence placing McKnight inside Gasser car at the moment the gun was fired? Be fair for once. If blood splatter is in Gasser's car, and it can be proven Gasser's car was blocked in, he has to be acquitted. |
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Post by movieliker on Jan 21, 2018 18:05:20 GMT
I liked New Orleans, but it is a bit of a tourist trap kind of city so I expect the people to be nice. See I can understand the defending one's property aspect, but if such a law becomes a shield where murder or manslaughter is dismissed easily then it seriously needs some fine tuning. I mean after all the idea of being in danger or having one's life at risk where deadly force is a first response is entirely subjective. Especially so in a case like this where we're only able to hear one first hand account of the incident. The law says you don't have to prove your life was in danger. You just have to prove you felt your life was in danger in order to have the legal right to use deadly force. |
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Post by kls on Jan 21, 2018 18:06:43 GMT
I liked New Orleans, but it is a bit of a tourist trap kind of city so I expect the people to be nice. See I can understand the defending one's property aspect, but if such a law becomes a shield where murder or manslaughter is dismissed easily then it seriously needs some fine tuning. I mean after all the idea of being in danger or having one's life at risk where deadly force is a first response is entirely subjective. Especially so in a case like this where we're only able to hear one first hand account of the incident. The law says you don't have to prove your life was in danger. You just have to prove you felt your life was in danger in order to have the legal right to use deadly force. How does one prove a feeling? |
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Post by movieliker on Jan 21, 2018 18:07:01 GMT
The whole truth, huh? So if Gasser lied about what he had for breakfast that morning it cancels out the blood splatter evidence placing McKnight inside Gasser car at the moment the gun was fired? Be fair for once. If blood splatter is in Gasser's car, and it can be proven Gasser's car was blocked in, he has to be acquitted. The law in Louisiana says he does not have to prove his car was blocked in. The Stand Your Ground law says no one has a legal obligation to flee a threat. |
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Post by movieliker on Jan 21, 2018 18:13:09 GMT
The law says you don't have to prove your life was in danger. You just have to prove you felt your life was in danger in order to have the legal right to use deadly force. How does one prove a feeling? Maybe I used the wrong word. If the police, judge or jury decides you felt your life was in danger, they will find you are not guilty of murder. But if the police, judge or jury finds you didn't act like you felt your life was in danger, you could be charged with murder. Also they take into consideration the situation --- would a reasonable person feel like their life was in danger? Was the subject a reasonable person? Etc. |
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Post by kls on Jan 21, 2018 18:14:18 GMT
How does one prove a feeling? Maybe I used the wrong word. If the police, judge or jury decides you felt your life was in danger, they will find you are not guilty of murder. But if the police, judge or jury finds you didn't act like you felt your life was in danger, you could be charged with murder. Also they take into consideration the situation --- would a reasonable person feel like their life was in danger? Was the subject a reasonable person? Etc. That seems very clear now. Thanks. |
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Post by movieliker on Jan 21, 2018 18:31:00 GMT
Maybe I used the wrong word. If the police, judge or jury decides you felt your life was in danger, they will find you are not guilty of murder. But if the police, judge or jury finds you didn't act like you felt your life was in danger, you could be charged with murder. Also they take into consideration the situation --- would a reasonable person feel like their life was in danger? Was the subject a reasonable person? Etc. That seems very clear now. Thanks. You are welcome. 😊👍 |
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Post by movieliker on Jan 24, 2018 19:11:50 GMT
I'm curious how this turns out - please post of you see the verdict reported. I think he'll be acquitted due to lack of definitive evidence. You said you wanted to know what happened in this case Flying Monkeys. Well, here is the latest. Testimony is still proceeding. Today, a person testified he had a preceding road rage incident with the defendant. He said he saw a truck driving erratically. He called the number on the bumper sticker, "1-800 how's my driving?" The defendant (Gasser) answered the phone and was driving the truck. Gasser starting screaming and cursing him out. The witness hung up. He stopped at a gas station to get fuel. Gasser walked up to him with fist balled and threatened him. The witness said he had to put up his fist to defend himself. That's the latest. |
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Post by movieliker on Jan 24, 2018 19:16:26 GMT
That is what all clear thinking people say also. But the black community and the SJWs insisted he be arrested. As far as legal fees go, this guy was involved in another road rage incident that occurred at the same intersection. He allegedly got out his car and beat up another motorist. I drove a truck local pickup and delivery for twenty years. Now I have my own business and I drive around all day providing service to my customers. I have never had anything like this happen to me. I get the impression this white guy (Ronald Gasser) is just a hot head looking for trouble. If that is correct, he found it --- again. In that case, he has no one to blame but himself for his troubles. He needs to learn to cool out and be more tolerant of others. To me what happened 10 year ago doesn't matter if the facts in the 2016 are a) McKnight blocked Gasser from leaving and b) McKnight got into Gasser's car. Now the white guy's past would definitely matter if we couldn't establish the aforementioned a and b. But as far as I'm concerned, I don't care if you've murdered 100 people, you still have a right to reasonable self-defense. If someone pulls their car in front of you and prevents you from fleeing, then enters your car, you have every right to make them spring a leak. This is what I meant when I said Gasser sounds like a hothead looking for trouble. Testimony is still proceeding. Today, a person testified he had a preceding road rage incident with the defendant. He said he saw a truck driving erratically. He called the number on the bumper sticker, "1-800 how's my driving?" The defendant (Gasser) answered the phone and was driving the truck. Gasser starting screaming and cursing him out. The witness hung up. He stopped at a gas station to get fuel. Gasser walked up to him with fist balled and threatened him. The witness said he had to put up his fist to defend himself. |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Jan 24, 2018 21:46:16 GMT
You said you wanted to know what happened in this case Flying Monkeys. Well, here is the latest. Testimony is still proceeding. Today, a person testified he had a preceding road rage incident with the defendant. He said he saw a truck driving erratically. He called the number on the bumper sticker, "1-800 how's my driving?" The defendant (Gasser) answered the phone and was driving the truck. Gasser starting screaming and cursing him out. The witness hung up. He stopped at a gas station to get fuel. Gasser walked up to him with fist balled and threatened him. The witness said he had to put up his fist to defend himself. That's the latest. Thanks. Okay, so the prosecution is trying to paint the defendant as a hot head shit, but as Ayatollah says, that has nothing to do with this and is not evidence of what happened here. I still think acquittal. If the prosecution is already gong for character witnesses rather than ballistics and forensics, that says to me they have nothing. Please keep the updates coming. |
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Post by movieliker on Jan 25, 2018 2:23:06 GMT
You said you wanted to know what happened in this case Flying Monkeys. Well, here is the latest. Testimony is still proceeding. Today, a person testified he had a preceding road rage incident with the defendant. He said he saw a truck driving erratically. He called the number on the bumper sticker, "1-800 how's my driving?" The defendant (Gasser) answered the phone and was driving the truck. Gasser starting screaming and cursing him out. The witness hung up. He stopped at a gas station to get fuel. Gasser walked up to him with fist balled and threatened him. The witness said he had to put up his fist to defend himself. That's the latest. Thanks. Okay, so the prosecution is trying to paint the defendant as a hot head shit, but as Ayatollah says, that has nothing to do with this and is not evidence of what happened here. I still think acquittal. If the prosecution is already gong for character witnesses rather than ballistics and forensics, that says to me they have nothing. Please keep the updates coming. So far, I cannot disagree. McKnight should have stayed in his car. |
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Post by Earthlings on Jan 25, 2018 3:07:45 GMT
Please keep the updates coming. I would like to comment on the race aspect of this. When this road rage started it very well may have had nothing to do with race. But as soon as this happened it became ALL about race. But the black community and the SJWs insisted he be arrested.
Like someone said before if it was two white men no arrests would have even been made. |
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Post by OffTheBoatPsycho on Jan 25, 2018 4:02:03 GMT
I would like to comment on the race aspect of this. When this road rage started it very well may have had nothing to do with race. But as soon as this happened it became ALL about race. But the black community and the SJWs insisted he be arrested.
Like someone said before if it was two white men no arrests would have even been made. Reminiscent of Trayvon Martin. Race had nothing to do with it. The media and black community and activists made it about race. This increased the media coverage to global. They even made the minority guy white to push the racial narrative. |
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