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Post by america on Oct 30, 2023 17:08:19 GMT
Dude. If she's not secretly racist against black people that's some messed up Freudian slip, right there. Heeeyyy?…big time racist. No, it was your gif. It's being investigated. None of us has a say. You should search YouTube for the slow mo video of it that I posted here. It's messed up. Watch for Petgrave's knee and foot. It's not hard to see. He is not flying through the air. And he pulls in his leg and kicks it back out at Johnson. A 29-year-old is dead. It's sad and awful.
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Post by geddy on Oct 30, 2023 17:14:21 GMT
It was a terrible accident is all as I don't see why a police investigation is necessary.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2023 17:15:36 GMT
It was a terrible accident is all as I don't see why a police investigation is necessary. Accident? He kicked a dude in the neck while wearing blades.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Oct 30, 2023 17:17:14 GMT
Heeeyyy?…big time racist. No, it was your gif. It's being investigated. None of us has a say. You should search YouTube for the slow mo video of it that I posted here. It's messed up. Watch for Petgrave's knee and foot. It's not hard to see. He is not flying through the air. And he pulls in his leg and kicks it back out at Johnson. A 29-year-old is dead. It's sad and awful. I looked at darling before you deleted it. I was in process of answering you when it dark. I’ve seen it twice with eyes that has seen a lot ice hockey. It is an accident cause possibly by Petgrave’s, who plays defensive, over momentum to check another player. He didn’t have the time to make a play on one man and plan a murder on another. If Johnson had been a second late, the skate might have hit his chest pads instead of his throat. Hockey is the most aggressive of sports, behind boxing and more so than rugby or American football. Another thing, Petgrave was trained up in Canadian and American minor leagues where aggressive play, including fist fights, and good shooting gets one into the NHL. What is too aggressive in England, might be not aggressive enough for the Wilkes Barre Penguins.
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Post by america on Oct 30, 2023 17:28:32 GMT
No, it was your gif. It's being investigated. None of us has a say. You should search YouTube for the slow mo video of it that I posted here. It's messed up. Watch for Petgrave's knee and foot. It's not hard to see. He is not flying through the air. And he pulls in his leg and kicks it back out at Johnson. A 29-year-old is dead. It's sad and awful. I looked at darling before you deleted it. I was in process of answering you when it dark. I’ve seen it twice with eyes that has seen a lot ice hockey. It is an accident cause possibly by Petgrave’s, who plays defensive, over momentum to check another player. He didn’t have the time to make a play on one man and plan a murder on another. If Johnson had been a second late, the skate might have hit his chest pads instead of his throat. Hockey is the most aggressive of sports, behind boxing and more so than rugby or American football. I didn't delete it. I can't delete an entire thread. Monkeys deleted it after I apparently turned down a marriage proposal I didn't realize was part of the package. This forum is out of control!!
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Post by bartlesby on Oct 30, 2023 17:30:20 GMT
No, you don't. You have balance on ice. Once that balance is gone, you're going wherever momentum takes you. And that can mean your legs swinging around in the air. And clearly they do swing up to neck level because this isn't even the first time this has happened. False. An expert skater can use the blades to control momentum. Ever here of a "snowplow stop"? Or "T stop"? Or you can spin in place to dilute momentum. And even if you legs kept continuing their motions, it would not lead them to flying at neck level as that is not a natural motion of skating. And how often does this happen? Not very often and in this instance he went to great lengths to even make it happen. No, it doesn't happen often. But it does happen. You don't even need to know anything about hockey or skating to understand the basic physics involved here. Though it is hilarious you think he could have spun in place or even stopped with one leg at the speed he was going. In this case, his leg didn't connect with the ice when he attempted to hard turn and he went off balance. What action do you take to make a hard turn while skating? You extend your leg outwards to change your direction. What happens if your leg doesn't connect, your momentum is following its direction, and you lose balance on your other leg? Your legs sweep up into the air in a sideways arc with your extended leg at the zenith. The faster you're going, the higher the arc. I don't see anything which indicates going to great lengths to pull it off. I've seen people eat shit like this personally.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Oct 30, 2023 17:31:44 GMT
I looked at darling before you deleted it. I was in process of answering you when it dark. I’ve seen it twice with eyes that has seen a lot ice hockey. It is an accident cause possibly by Petgrave’s, who plays defensive, over momentum to check another player. He didn’t have the time to make a play on one man and plan a murder on another. If Johnson had been a second late, the skate might have hit his chest pads instead of his throat. Hockey is the most aggressive of sports, behind boxing and more so than rugby or American football. I didn't delete it. I can't delete an entire thread. Monkeys deleted it after I apparently turned down a marriage proposal I didn't realize was part of the package. This forum is out of control!! Yes, and I deleted another thread with the same video because he wouldn't get married either. And it wasn't going to be me that would have proposed!
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Post by geddy on Oct 30, 2023 17:31:45 GMT
It was a terrible accident is all as I don't see why a police investigation is necessary. Accident? He kicked a dude in the neck while wearing blades. Deliberately?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2023 17:32:10 GMT
Who else has lifted their leg then donkey kicked their skate blade at another player's neck? In the millions of ice hockey scrimmages and games, ever, who else has this "happened to"? Apparently posters here have never even skated. There is no reason for feet to ever be above knee level while skating unless you are high-level figure skating or trying to kick someone. Those are the only two reasons as having a leg that high makes you unbalanced. This guy was trying to kick him with a blade on his foot. He should be charged with first degree murder. I’ve skated but it was just that going round and round an ice rink stuff. Didn’t start until my eldest was old enough to be invited to ice skating parties.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Oct 30, 2023 17:39:54 GMT
I looked at darling before you deleted it. I was in process of answering you when it dark. I’ve seen it twice with eyes that has seen a lot ice hockey. It is an accident cause possibly by Petgrave’s, who plays defensive, over momentum to check another player. He didn’t have the time to make a play on one man and plan a murder on another. If Johnson had been a second late, the skate might have hit his chest pads instead of his throat. Hockey is the most aggressive of sports, behind boxing and more so than rugby or American football. I didn't delete it. I can't delete an entire thread. Monkeys deleted it after I apparently turned down a marriage proposal I didn't realize was part of the package. This forum is out of control!! Gwyn, I have agreed with you about Petgrave being too rough in playing and that probably caused Johnson death. I agree he should punished with the rules of game and if loved ones want to sue Petgrave or the league owners who hired him and kept him on the ice. What I don’t agree with is this a murder. There is no way to make logical sense that was.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Oct 30, 2023 17:41:18 GMT
I didn't delete it. I can't delete an entire thread. Monkeys deleted it after I apparently turned down a marriage proposal I didn't realize was part of the package. This forum is out of control!! Gwyn, I have agreed with you about Petgrave being too rough in playing and that probably caused Johnson death. I agree he should punished with the rules of game and if loved ones want to sue Petgrave or the league owners who hired him and kept him on the ice. What I don’t agree with is this a murder. There is no way to make logical sense that was. It sure looked like it was to me. What was his foot doing up in the air like that if not deliberate?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2023 17:45:06 GMT
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Post by bartlesby on Oct 30, 2023 17:46:22 GMT
Gwyn, I have agreed with you about Petgrave being too rough in playing and that probably caused Johnson death. I agree he should punished with the rules of game and if loved ones want to sue Petgrave or the league owners who hired him and kept him on the ice. What I don’t agree with is this a murder. There is no way to make logical sense that was. It sure looked like it was to me. What was his foot doing up in the air like that if not deliberate? Well, clearly, his plan was drop kick his opponent in the face because that's something they do a lot in hockey. Though from what I've read from actual hockey fans, they're annoyed that people don't understand how this could have happened accidentally.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Oct 30, 2023 17:56:33 GMT
Gwyn, I have agreed with you about Petgrave being too rough in playing and that probably caused Johnson death. I agree he should punished with the rules of game and if loved ones want to sue Petgrave or the league owners who hired him and kept him on the ice. What I don’t agree with is this a murder. There is no way to make logical sense that was. It sure looked like it was to me. What was his foot doing up in the air like that if not deliberate? He’s on skates, moving very fast, and hit another player, thus pushing against him causing him to become airborne. There was no “donkey kick” because his feet are off the ice. Donkeys kick with the specific intention intention to land their hoof on a target, generally while standing still. Petgrave is at point moving at about 25 miles per hour on impact and is trying to right himself. The “kick” could have been involuntary, or if was intentional and he’s kicking out too hard, it’s doubtful he saw Johnson skating toward him. They are on opposite teams, so don’t know what Petgrave’s motive was if it was murder. I am assuming they didn’t know each other. Right now there is only a murky video, from one angle. Let the officials decide Petgrave’s fate. And how come my opinion he did not murder Johnson make me the bad guy here? High-tech lynching, indeed. Thank you Justice Clarence Thomas for coining that phrase.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2023 17:59:06 GMT
It sure looked like it was to me. What was his foot doing up in the air like that if not deliberate? Well, clearly, his plan was drop kick his opponent in the face because that's something they do a lot in hockey. Though from what I've read from actual hockey fans, they're annoyed that people don't understand how this could have happened accidentally. Pretty sure I'm the only person who's ever played ice hockey on this forum. Granted, it was just a beer league, but I'm an expert level skater having been trained to figure skate and break skate (breakdancing on roller skates). There's simply no way it wasn't deliberate. Sticking your leg that high is not normal motions, even for turning. Yes, figure skating may do it for aesthetics, but in hockey, you'd want to keep your center of gravity low to increase effectiveness...especially if you're trying to check a guy. It was deliberate. Hence why you very rarely see any dropkicks to the neck in hockey.
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