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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 13, 2023 9:11:12 GMT
Synagogues require men no matter their religious beliefs to cover the heads while inside. Should that be debated? I did not wear a yarmulke at the funeral of my childhood acquaintance and, later, my weed dealer, Jeffrey Osher's funeral PaulsLaugh. Someone wanted me to wear a hankie on my head to compensate for this. I declined. Even though it was rude of me, the Jewish folk did not try to force me to wear one, nor did they threaten me. Unless you are a total idiot and a degenerate troll PaulsLaugh, you know that men wearing a yarmulke at a synagogue or temple service is not the same thing as forcing women to wear a hijab in public. PS. I will never go to a Jewish funeral again without wearing a yarmulke, though. Because I like the fact the yarmulke covers my balding crown. While looking for photos of Hasidic women, I saw this one of a Mizrahi Yemeni bride and groom. Yemen has the oldest Jewish population going back to the first century, still present in the Middle East, though many have since relocated to Israel. Culturally, they have more in common with their Muslim neighbors, than modern Jews, and lived in relative peace with Muslims until the 20th century.  |
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Post by lunda2222 on Nov 13, 2023 9:14:44 GMT
Synagogues require men no matter their religious beliefs to cover the heads while inside. Should that be debated? Actually that particular tradition of covering your head before [x] Gods is the oldest one in the world. It dates back to our earliest civilization, ancient Mesopotamia. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 9:14:58 GMT
PaulsLaugh, I am considering whether I should wear a hijab, just out of solidarity, but then not all Palestinian women wear a hijab.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 13, 2023 9:24:55 GMT
PaulsLaugh , I am considering whether I should wear a hijab, just out of solidarity, but then not all Palestinian women wear a hijab. Fortunately, it’s your choice, those women in ultra orthodox Muslim and Jewish nations and communities don’t have a choice. Jeff and other men keep missing in the debate of women living under patriarchal religious control, the common denominator is male hatred of women. Susan Sontag once said what the early feminists did not realize at time was not that men didn’t hated women, they knew that, but they did not know how much men hated women. So, it does not matter to me which religion a power abusive male belongs to, it’s still misogyny, though it’s dressed up in the women being responsible for man’s downfall off his perfect pedestal into sex sin. |
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Post by jeffersoncody on Nov 13, 2023 9:35:02 GMT
I did not wear a yarmulke at the funeral of my childhood acquaintance and, later, my weed dealer, Jeffrey Osher's funeral PaulsLaugh. Someone wanted me to wear a hankie on my head to compensate for this. I declined. Even though it was rude of me, the Jewish folk did not try to force me to wear one, nor did they threaten me. Unless you are a total idiot and a degenerate troll PaulsLaugh, you know that men wearing a yarmulke at a synagogue or temple service is not the same thing as forcing women to wear a hijab in public.
PS. I will never go to a Jewish funeral again without wearing a yarmulke, though. Because I like the fact the yarmulke covers my balding crown. However, I don’t think you couldn’t have gotten away with being rude in an ultra orthodox Jewish temple…though it is highly unlikely you’d be invited inside one. Maybe not PaulsLaugh, maybe not. My great grandfather was an orthodox Jew - with the payot and all, but the lift girl at Stuttafords who he got pregnant and had to marry was a devout Methodist. But the marriage worked, and here I am years later, an Anglican. I love most aspects of the Jewish culture, though, Paulslaugh. Of course, I am rather partial to the Anglican church as well. ![[shrug]](http://storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/GNdzQKpfkkHBBwUPdCiE.gif) Apropos of nothing of nothing other than how much I love Cathy Bates as an actress. She plays a Jewish mamma and grandmother in ARE YOU THERE, GOD? IT'S ME, MARGARET. It's a beautiful, warm, funny and touching film. Have you seen it? |
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Post by jeffersoncody on Nov 13, 2023 9:45:04 GMT
PaulsLaugh , I am considering whether I should wear a hijab, just out of solidarity, but then not all Palestinian women wear a hijab. Fortunately, it’s your choice, those women in ultra orthodox Muslim and Jewish nations and communities don’t have a choice. Jeff and other men keep missing in the debate of women living under patriarchal religious control, the common denominator is male hatred of women.Susan Sontag once said what the early feminists did not realize at time was not that men didn’t hated women, they knew that, but they did not know how much men hated women. So, it does not matter to me which religion a power abusive male belongs to, it’s still misogyny, though it’s dressed up in the women being responsible for man’s downfall off his perfect pedestal into sex sin.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Nov 13, 2023 11:59:34 GMT
Everybody is fine with the adage "when in Rome" when it's people visiting the West. Why isn't that a two-way street? If I go somewhere where the culture demands I take off my shoes, I take off my shoes. If I go somewhere where culture demands I bow instead of shaking hands, I bow. If I go somewhere where the culture demands I cover my head, I cover my head. What is it those right wingers say? "If you don't like it, you can leave." Which is just another way of saying "when you're here with us, you act like us". Do you apply the same logic to women who wear niqabs and burqas in Western countries? Or are you one of those who were outraged when France banned face covering in public? |
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Post by Hairynosedwombat on Nov 13, 2023 12:48:10 GMT
Synagogues require men no matter their religious beliefs to cover the heads while inside. Should that be debated? I did not wear a yarmulke at the funeral of my childhood acquaintance and, later, my weed dealer, Jeffrey Osher's funeral PaulsLaugh. Someone wanted me to wear a hankie on my head to compensate for this. I declined. Even though it was rude of me, the Jewish folk did not try to force me to wear one, nor did they threaten me. Unless you are a total idiot and a degenerate troll PaulsLaugh, you know that men wearing a yarmulke at a synagogue or temple service is not the same thing as forcing women to wear a hijab in public. PS. I will never go to a Jewish funeral again without wearing a yarmulke, though. Because I like the fact the yarmulke covers my balding crown. So? Lots of women here wear headcovering, usually black that looks a bit like a balaclava. They don't seem uncomfortable, and have no husband near them to force them. It's cultural, and if the evil Iranian regime forces women to wear headscarves they could take a look at our great democratic friends in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bahrein, Saudi Arabia where we don't have any problem with women wearing full cover tents. |
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Post by jeffersoncody on Nov 13, 2023 14:51:37 GMT
I did not wear a yarmulke at the funeral of my childhood acquaintance and, later, my weed dealer, Jeffrey Osher's funeral PaulsLaugh. Someone wanted me to wear a hankie on my head to compensate for this. I declined. Even though it was rude of me, the Jewish folk did not try to force me to wear one, nor did they threaten me. Unless you are a total idiot and a degenerate troll PaulsLaugh, you know that men wearing a yarmulke at a synagogue or temple service is not the same thing as forcing women to wear a hijab in public. PS. I will never go to a Jewish funeral again without wearing a yarmulke, though. Because I like the fact the yarmulke covers my balding crown. So? Lots of women here wear headcovering, usually black that looks a bit like a balaclava. They don't seem uncomfortable, and have no husband near them to force them. It's cultural, and if the evil Iranian regime forces women to wear headscarves they could take a look at our great democratic friends in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bahrein, Saudi Arabia where we don't have any problem with women wearing full cover tents. Unsure whether you are attempting to be humorous, or trying to deflect hairyassedwombat? PS. I am still, LOL, basking in the fact my reply to your Amber Heard sympathy comment left you at a loss for words. |
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Post by jimmywynn on Nov 13, 2023 14:56:37 GMT
Synagogues require men no matter their religious beliefs to cover the heads while inside. Should that be debated? I did not wear a yarmulke at the funeral of my childhood acquaintance and, later, my weed dealer, Jeffrey Osher's funeral PaulsLaugh. Someone wanted me to wear a hankie on my head to compensate for this. I declined. Even though it was rude of me, the Jewish folk did not try to force me to wear one, nor did they threaten me. Unless you are a total idiot and a degenerate troll PaulsLaugh, you know that men wearing a yarmulke at a synagogue or temple service is not the same thing as forcing women to wear a hijab in public. PS. I will never go to a Jewish funeral again without wearing a yarmulke, though. Because I like the fact the yarmulke covers my balding crown. I wore one at the funeral for one of my staff. It's called "showing proper respect". |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 15:01:32 GMT
Depends on the context, which is lost on me since I can't see the video. I know that Christina Amanpour was asked either the Iranian president (or someone connected to him) to wear a hijab, which she normally doesn't do, and she refused, thereby prompting the cancelation of the interview. The interview would have been on her turf in her city with her dress code at work. She did right, in my opinion, by refusing to kowtow to a guest demanding what she wear in her own proverbial house.
However, it depends on the context. If Lesley Stahl, who I don't know, wore a hijab under duress then perhaps her critics have a point. If it was her choice, then it's her choice. Depends where the interview occurred, whether this woman wore a hijab of her own volition. The video in the link isn't available in my country so I can't see it, in case you were wondering why it's clear I haven't watched it.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Nov 13, 2023 15:43:11 GMT
I did not wear a yarmulke at the funeral of my childhood acquaintance and, later, my weed dealer, Jeffrey Osher's funeral PaulsLaugh. Someone wanted me to wear a hankie on my head to compensate for this. I declined. Even though it was rude of me, the Jewish folk did not try to force me to wear one, nor did they threaten me. Unless you are a total idiot and a degenerate troll PaulsLaugh, you know that men wearing a yarmulke at a synagogue or temple service is not the same thing as forcing women to wear a hijab in public. PS. I will never go to a Jewish funeral again without wearing a yarmulke, though. Because I like the fact the yarmulke covers my balding crown. I wore one at the funeral for one of my staff. It's called "showing proper respect".I know that Toy, and I am generally respectful, but I had a complicated relationship with the deceased and didn't even know if I should be there, and I was also going through my "atheist" phase - it wasn't about lack of respect, it was about my inner demons. I'm a complicated, sensitive and emotional guy, sorry. Jeffrey was an atheist through and through, but his 91-year-old former bodybuilding champ and gym owner father Bennie was a believer - or, at the very least, he enjoyed the trappings of the synagogue. If it's any consolation Toy, I did feel guilty about not wearing a yarmulke that day. But there comes a point where one has to forgive oneself for sins both minor and major. I've forgiven myself for the minor ones, but can you ever find it in your heart to forgive me for not wearing a yarmulke that day Toy? |
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Post by kuatorises on Nov 13, 2023 16:04:12 GMT
Last time I checked, wearing a hijab was not criminal, Cody. Since you asked, no I am not wearing a hijab, but it's not a crime. Settle your feathers, you islamophobe. Why are you ok with women being submissive to men? |
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 13, 2023 17:10:41 GMT
Fortunately, it’s your choice, those women in ultra orthodox Muslim and Jewish nations and communities don’t have a choice. Jeff and other men keep missing in the debate of women living under patriarchal religious control, the common denominator is male hatred of women.Susan Sontag once said what the early feminists did not realize at time was not that men didn’t hated women, they knew that, but they did not know how much men hated women. So, it does not matter to me which religion a power abusive male belongs to, it’s still misogyny, though it’s dressed up in the women being responsible for man’s downfall off his perfect pedestal into sex sin.
I hope you do, but there is no other way to explain why women in general have always been and still are treated like shit by their menfolk. And the abuse is almost always justified using religion and its edicts that the women are not as good as men in God’s eyes. |
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 13, 2023 17:13:01 GMT
I did not wear a yarmulke at the funeral of my childhood acquaintance and, later, my weed dealer, Jeffrey Osher's funeral PaulsLaugh. Someone wanted me to wear a hankie on my head to compensate for this. I declined. Even though it was rude of me, the Jewish folk did not try to force me to wear one, nor did they threaten me. Unless you are a total idiot and a degenerate troll PaulsLaugh, you know that men wearing a yarmulke at a synagogue or temple service is not the same thing as forcing women to wear a hijab in public. PS. I will never go to a Jewish funeral again without wearing a yarmulke, though. Because I like the fact the yarmulke covers my balding crown. So? Lots of women here wear headcovering, usually black that looks a bit like a balaclava. They don't seem uncomfortable, and have no husband near them to force them.It's cultural, and if the evil Iranian regime forces women to wear headscarves they could take a look at our great democratic friends in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bahrein, Saudi Arabia where we don't have any problem with women wearing full cover tents. Society forces. |
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