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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 14, 2023 6:53:06 GMT
The Snowman betrays Roy.
1:21:20
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Post by merh on Nov 14, 2023 7:00:12 GMT
The father is escorted into the wife’s office by the CEO himself and we get our first snow. Eyes meet. They sweetly greet. But her CEO’s gift is a Rolex, while his is an overstuffed bear. The wife offers a spare room, but instead of accepting, he is upset that she has instead dishonored the marriage vows by not keeping his name. They part. As night falls, a black truck arrives with “Pacific Courier” on the side; a gray Mercedes is in the lead. These are not shepherds or placid barriers of gifts, but men of ill-will here to do something bad. They commandeer and lockdown the building. The man in charge is a dead-ringer for the Devil. 21:09 You need to see Violent Night. Also has a robbery at it's center |
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 14, 2023 7:03:59 GMT
The Devil proclaims there will be a Christmas miracle.
1:28:00
(The bad writing, characterization, and acting of Snowman and the Police Chief brings this story down a lot.)
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Post by merh on Nov 14, 2023 7:09:23 GMT
The Devil proclaims there will be a Christmas miracle. 1:28:00 (The bad writing, characterization, and acting of Snowman and the Police Chief brings this story down a lot.) Like commercialization dampens the Christmas spirit? |
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 14, 2023 7:26:05 GMT
The Devil is searching for Roy and passes a dumpster with “Merry CHRS” written on it one it. The M has an odd diamond shaped crossbar, like a Chinese pagoda.
1:30:25
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 14, 2023 7:27:33 GMT
Roy invokes the name of Jesus Christ.
1:37:25
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 14, 2023 7:40:35 GMT
After yet another gun battle directly with the Devil this time, who unsuccessfully tries to deceive him, Roy suffers the stigma on his bare feet. He then shares a few quiet moment with his outside brother cop reciting from the scripture of WC Fields. Looking skyward to where Roy reposes inside a demolished datacom room…that miraculously still has the overheads on…I’m assume tech guy disabled the sprinkler system…the cop confesses to Roy he fucked up while on the job accidentally killing a 13 year old kid. The cop’s wife is pregnant. The cops are also taking bets on whether Roy will survive or not.
1:42:00
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 14, 2023 7:48:56 GMT
And then the miracle happens. After the equally stupid FBI cuts the power grid to the building, the safe the Devil has been struggling to break opens to a joyous sound, O my brothers, of Ludwig Van and the 9th symphony, 4th movement.
1:43:50
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 14, 2023 7:58:57 GMT
Here we go, folks. After the still resting Roy has a moment of self-doubt and confesses his love and admiration for his wife, admitting he is the fuck, not her, and begs her forgiveness to his brother cop. He says looking heavenward, “it’s all to man upstairs,” the Devil. What are doing Devil?
1:47:45
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 14, 2023 8:30:39 GMT
After Roy’s Gethsemane, he dukes it out with a Norse god whom he dispatches with chains. The wife calls out the Devil as common little thief, to which he replies, “I’m an exceptional thief,” and she should be more polite.
Roy climbs to the roof, looking for Holly, warning the employees the Devil is blowing the roof as the FBI shoot at him from helicopters.
Roy begs God to please not let him die. Using a firehouse, he swings himself into the 30th floor, where Holly is being held hostage. All the mayhem turns the corporate atrium into a hell-scape of burning burning Xmas trees and water sprinklers…so they were not turned off.
1:59:00 (shit this a long movie)
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Post by Lux on Nov 14, 2023 8:47:58 GMT
Can't decide which is the more mindnumbing reading Die Hard Christmas threads or Israel Palestine threads.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 14, 2023 8:59:17 GMT
Finally with all the henchmen neutralized, Roy confronts the Devil who is holding Holly hostage, they have an evil laugh-off, then Roy shots the Devil with a gun concealed on his back, driving through the window, but the Rolex hangs him to her. Roy unbuckles the watch and down goes Hans Gruber.
In the aftermath, Roy, aka John McClane finds his cop brother and they spend several long seconds staring into each others eyes and hugging.
But the Norse god had risen from his chains, but the brother cop kills him saving one and all.
Argyle, the driver, picks Holly and John up reminding everyone it’s Christmas as the bouncy tune “Let it Snow“ plays them out.
There is no snow in L.A.
end.
My impression is this definitely a Christmas movie, though a jumbled up, patchwork one.
My overall impression of the movie is it’s a fun action hero fantasy, but the whole silly cops, evil FBI, and foolish media tropes date the movie. This is a very conservative to right wing POV film. I’m not dissing it for that, per se, but it takes away from sleek action and repartee inside the building between McClane and Gruber. And at over two hours, all the cops and media BS could have been toned down. It like there are two differences scripts competing.
I will defend my analysis later. My notes are my observations of Christmas and/or religious motifs and allusion. All comments are welcome.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 14, 2023 8:59:41 GMT
Can't decide which is the more mindnumbing reading Die Hard Christmas threads or Israel Palestine threads. I aim to please. |
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Post by ShadowSouL Likes This on Nov 15, 2023 4:18:51 GMT
This sounds like a whole bunch of other movies other than Die Hard. Either that, or I probably did drugs while watching the movie. And I've never done drugs. It’s a play-by-play. Thank you, Father PaulsLaugh! Or is that Reverend PaulsLaugh? |
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Post by ShadowSouL Likes This on Nov 15, 2023 4:19:50 GMT
Roy invokes the name of Jesus Christ. 1:37:25 Now does he invoke the name of Jesus Christ, or does he take the name of Jesus Christ in vain? That's a critical distinction that needs to be made. |
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