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Post by SciFive on Nov 21, 2023 20:17:09 GMT
The Nations United against Israel (UN) spend more time going after Israel than all the other nations put together.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2023 20:23:38 GMT
From my point of view you're defending what's indefensible. You write off the death tolls of civilians caught in the crossfire and allegations of human rights abuses as anti-Israel propaganda, or as defense of Hamas. There's no twisting on my end, but accusing the UN of being anti-Israel is a propagandized talking point. Typical blame the messenger stuff. Duck dodge and evade, like your friend responding to apartheid state allegations with "Algeria, where are your Jews?".
I ain't trying to "Duck dodge and evade" cat. I stand with Israel, what's so fucking hard to understand about that?Nothing. I don't dispute that you stand with them. I just think there's a lot you're not seeing. What's so hard to understand is why when you stand with Israel, it's justified, but when others don't, it's because they've fallen for propaganda or because they're young. How do you know you haven't fallen for any propaganda?
I don't think a truly informed person would support either side unconditionally, and not because of the facts, but because their minds are open. If your mind isn't open to Israel committing human rights abuses because of the Holocaust, then you'll never see the evidence of it for what it is.
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Post by averagejoe2021 on Nov 21, 2023 20:25:25 GMT
^^ Just as expected, no answer from the bigoted piece of shit pathological liar and complete phony who has never given a rat's ass about the slaughtering of Jews, but who instead just enjoys using a tragedy to have his fun on a politics board hurling bullshit accusations at people, falsely implying they condone terrorism, for the purpose of his own virtue-signaling. And that's why you're now throwing that term virtue-signaling back at me, because you hate that I correctly use it for you. Remember the meltdown you had? lol You are the virtue signaller Dracula, simply believing everything you read in the mainstream mean and taking a majority position. Do you really think standing with Israel is virtue signaling? You are deluded and choking on your own woke and self righteous indignation. I don't take positions to be popular with anybody; I take positions because I believe with all my heart and mind they are right. There is not one Jew on this board - or in my real life, who doubts my sincerity on this issue. Orlando City Cat , averagejoe2021 , kuatorises , SciFive , drystyx , geddy , Power Ranger , movielover , ambercat , The Trashcan Man , NoRevisionism , , I do not like seeing such dissension. I have grown to respect many posters here and both you and Dracula rank among the very top. It's like seeing a brother and father fight so I will respectfully not get involved. I have grown tired of fighting. This is a very contentious issue and is very saddening to see such a reckless loss of life. Dracula ,
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2023 20:32:52 GMT
You are the virtue signaller Dracula, simply believing everything you read in the mainstream mean and taking a majority position. Do you really think standing with Israel is virtue signaling? You are deluded and choking on your own woke and self righteous indignation. I don't take positions to be popular with anybody; I take positions because I believe with all my heart and mind they are right. There is not one Jew on this board - or in my real life, who doubts my sincerity on this issue. Orlando City Cat , averagejoe2021 , kuatorises , SciFive , drystyx , geddy , Power Ranger , movielover , ambercat , The Trashcan Man , NoRevisionism , , I do not like seeing such dissension. I have grown to respect many posters here and both you and Dracula rank among the very top. It's like seeing a brother and father fight so I will respectfully not get involved. I have grown tired of fighting. This is a very contentious issue and is very saddening to see such a reckless loss of life. Dracula , They're two of my favourites too and I don't like it either, but as a Jewish person accused of being anti-Jewish because I don't support Israel's actions, I don't take kindly to being told I hate my own kind. Such claims are obnoxious and purist and elitist, and to top it off, completely wrong.
I thought for a second it might be like someone accusing you of hating America for criticizing Joe Biden or somebody, but there really is no comparison. It's unique in its insidiousness. I think it's offensive and hypocritical. Not a lot offends me on a personal level, but this is one of them. And all in all, it's just a distraction to put people on the defensive, but it hurts nonetheless.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Nov 21, 2023 20:37:20 GMT
You are the virtue signaller Dracula, simply believing everything you read in the mainstream mean and taking a majority position. Do you really think standing with Israel is virtue signaling? You are deluded and choking on your own woke and self righteous indignation. I don't take positions to be popular with anybody; I take positions because I believe with all my heart and mind they are right. There is not one Jew on this board - or in my real life, who doubts my sincerity on this issue. Orlando City Cat , averagejoe2021 , kuatorises , SciFive , drystyx , geddy , Power Ranger , movielover , ambercat , The Trashcan Man , NoRevisionism , , I do not like seeing such dissension. I have grown to respect many posters here and both you and Dracula rank among the very top. It's like seeing a brother and father fight so I will respectfully not get involved. I have grown tired of fighting. This is a very contentious issue and is very saddening to see such a reckless loss of life. Nobody likes "dissension" Joe, but this is a message board so we all are anonymous here. You know me a little bit better than some here, so let me boil it down to one simple question which I hope you have the courage to give me a straight answer to. While I admit to being human and flawed, and overly sentimental too, do you think I am "a virtue signaller"?
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Post by kuatorises on Nov 21, 2023 20:39:37 GMT
^^ Just as expected, no answer from the bigoted piece of shit pathological liar and complete phony who has never given a rat's ass about the slaughtering of Jews, but who instead just enjoys using a tragedy to have his fun on a politics board hurling bullshit accusations at people, falsely implying they condone terrorism, for the purpose of his own virtue-signaling. And that's why you're now throwing that term virtue-signaling back at me, because you hate that I correctly use it for you. Remember the meltdown you had? lol You are the virtue signaller Dracula, simply believing everything you read in the mainstream media and taking a majority position. Do you really think standing with Israel is virtue signaling? You are deluded and choking on your own woke and self righteous indignation. I don't take positions to be popular with anybody; I take positions because I believe with all my heart and mind they are right. There is not one Jew on this board - or in my real life, who doubts my sincerity on this issue. Orlando City Cat , averagejoe2021 , kuatorises , SciFive , drystyx , geddy , Power Ranger , movielover , ambercat , The Trashcan Man , NoRevisionism , , Get em, Jeff! You beautiful crazy SOB!
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Post by Boricanator on Nov 21, 2023 20:40:21 GMT
Does the U.S. give them 3 billion a year to slaughter them?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2023 20:52:14 GMT
You are the virtue signaller Dracula, simply believing everything you read in the mainstream media and taking a majority position. Do you really think standing with Israel is virtue signaling? You are deluded and choking on your own woke and self righteous indignation. I don't take positions to be popular with anybody; I take positions because I believe with all my heart and mind they are right. There is not one Jew on this board - or in my real life, who doubts my sincerity on this issue. Orlando City Cat , averagejoe2021 , kuatorises , SciFive , drystyx , geddy , Power Ranger , movielover , ambercat , The Trashcan Man , NoRevisionism , , Get em, Jeff! You beautiful crazy SOB! lol, if you hadn't noticed, he's taking the safe majority position and most of his stuff is from the mainstream media. Last week I posted a blitz of sources from mainstream media because this is a rare period where mainstream media is reporting the same facts as independent media. It won't last, but I can tell you when I post stuff from mainstream media, it's because I think this board won't trust anything else.
But it turns out whether it's independent media or mainstream media, nothing seems to shake the belief that Israel can do no wrong. As a Jewish person who sees plenty of wrong (from both sides) I simply do not understand this partisan attachment to the belief that Israel can do no wrong.
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Post by averagejoe2021 on Nov 21, 2023 21:19:02 GMT
I do not like seeing such dissension. I have grown to respect many posters here and both you and Dracula rank among the very top. It's like seeing a brother and father fight so I will respectfully not get involved. I have grown tired of fighting. This is a very contentious issue and is very saddening to see such a reckless loss of life. Nobody likes "dissension" Joe, but this is a message board so we all are anonymous here. You know me a little bit better than some here, so let me boil it down to one simple question which I hope you have the courage to give me a straight answer to. While I admit to being human and flawed, and overly sentimental too, do you think I am "a virtue signaller"? No. I think you are always entirely honest in your opinions and its not for popularity or to fit in.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Nov 21, 2023 21:20:39 GMT
I ain't trying to "Duck dodge and evade" cat. I stand with Israel, what's so fucking hard to understand about that?Nothing. I don't dispute that you stand with them. I just think there's a lot you're not seeing. What's so hard to understand is why when you stand with Israel, it's justified, but when others don't, it's because they've fallen for propaganda or because they're young. How do you know you haven't fallen for any propaganda?
I don't think a truly informed person would support either side unconditionally, and not because of the facts, but because their minds are open. If your mind isn't open to Israel committing human rights abuses because of the Holocaust, then you'll never see the evidence of it for what it is.
Shows how little you know. If Israel does not win this war it will not survive. Israel are a sovereign state, and it is the Jewish Homeland. It is also a rare bastion of civilization in the Middle East. Have some respect!
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Post by Meseia on Nov 21, 2023 21:23:58 GMT
The Nations United against Israel (UN) spend more time going after Israel than all the other nations put together. Maybe Israel should stop doing terrible things.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2023 21:27:28 GMT
Nothing. I don't dispute that you stand with them. I just think there's a lot you're not seeing. What's so hard to understand is why when you stand with Israel, it's justified, but when others don't, it's because they've fallen for propaganda or because they're young. How do you know you haven't fallen for any propaganda?
I don't think a truly informed person would support either side unconditionally, and not because of the facts, but because their minds are open. If your mind isn't open to Israel committing human rights abuses because of the Holocaust, then you'll never see the evidence of it for what it is.
Shows how little you know. If Israel does not win this war it will not survive. Israel are a sovereign state, and it is the Jewish Homeland. It is also a rare bastion of civilization in the Middle East. Have some respect! So what does winning this war look like to you, exactly? What's "mission accomplished" for Israel?
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Post by Dracula on Nov 21, 2023 21:28:07 GMT
^^ Just as expected, no answer from the bigoted piece of shit pathological liar and complete phony who has never given a rat's ass about the slaughtering of Jews, but who instead just enjoys using a tragedy to have his fun on a politics board hurling bullshit accusations at people, falsely implying they condone terrorism, for the purpose of his own virtue-signaling. And that's why you're now throwing that term virtue-signaling back at me, because you hate that I correctly use it for you. Remember the meltdown you had? lol You are the virtue signaller Dracula, simply believing everything you read in the mainstream media and taking a majority position. Do you really think standing with Israel is virtue signaling? You are deluded and choking on your own woke and self righteous indignation. I don't take positions to be popular with anybody; I take positions because I believe with all my heart and mind they are right. There is not one Jew on this board - or in my real life, who doubts my sincerity on this issue. Orlando City Cat , averagejoe2021 , kuatorises , SciFive , drystyx , geddy , Power Ranger , movielover , ambercat , The Trashcan Man , NoRevisionism , Text in bold and cowardly tagging posters as a distraction doesn't help you. Go ahead and quote examples of this "believe everything from mainstream media" that you're attributing to me, especially since I think that not just Fox News but also CNN and MSNBC are utter shit. On the other hand, speaking of "believing everything on mainstream media", look at all your video threads. You''re a gullible partisan hack who can be spoon-fed even the most made-up nonsense from a rando's tweet. Where the fuck have I called it virtue-signaling to simply "stand with Israel" you lying piece of shit? What I call virtue-signaling is you implying that me or this or that person is a Jew-hater or condones terrorism which is obviously false. All you do is spout out accusations based on nothing that the person you're accusing has said anywhere because you want to use them to argue against a position they've never taken so you can shout at the wind like an asshole. You're a joke. No credible person thinks you're sincere.
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Post by geddy on Nov 21, 2023 21:28:08 GMT
^^ Just as expected, no answer from the bigoted piece of shit pathological liar and complete phony who has never given a rat's ass about the slaughtering of Jews, but who instead just enjoys using a tragedy to have his fun on a politics board hurling bullshit accusations at people, falsely implying they condone terrorism, for the purpose of his own virtue-signaling. And that's why you're now throwing that term virtue-signaling back at me, because you hate that I correctly use it for you. Remember the meltdown you had? lol You are the virtue signaller Dracula, simply believing everything you read in the mainstream media and taking a majority position. Do you really think standing with Israel is virtue signaling? You are deluded and choking on your own woke and self righteous indignation. I don't take positions to be popular with anybody; I take positions because I believe with all my heart and mind they are right. There is not one Jew on this board - or in my real life, who doubts my sincerity on this issue. Orlando City Cat , averagejoe2021 , kuatorises , SciFive , drystyx , geddy , Power Ranger , movielover , ambercat , The Trashcan Man , NoRevisionism , , How did I get caught up in this? If you want to tag me please pay royalties.🙂
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Post by jeffersoncody on Nov 21, 2023 21:29:54 GMT
I do not like seeing such dissension. I have grown to respect many posters here and both you and Dracula rank among the very top. It's like seeing a brother and father fight so I will respectfully not get involved. I have grown tired of fighting. This is a very contentious issue and is very saddening to see such a reckless loss of life. Dracula , They're two of my favourites too and I don't like it either, but as a Jewish person accused of being anti-Jewish because I don't support Israel's actions, I don't take kindly to being told I hate my own kind. Such claims are obnoxious and purist and elitist, and to top it off, completely wrong.
I thought for a second it might be like someone accusing you of hating America for criticizing Joe Biden or somebody, but there really is no comparison. It's unique in its insidiousness. I think it's offensive and hypocritical. Not a lot offends me on a personal level, but this is one of them. And all in all, it's just a distraction to put people on the defensive, but it hurts nonetheless.
You doth protest too much cat. You are not a victim here, no matter how much you want to be seen as one.
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