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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 9, 2023 19:43:45 GMT
I think the deaths of thousands of children by the razing of Gaza speaks clearly for itself. If you think that's okay then it's pointless even discussing it. You have chose to take a side and obsessively post unqualified support for it, I like nearly everyone think Hamas are utter scum, but I don't agree that thousands of innocent people and especially children should pay with their lives because of it, you think it's acceptable, that's where we differ. Oh my god, I was right. It doesn't whatsoever speak for itself. You have literally no clue. You're one of those people who sees the rarely broadcast footage of actual Gaza and you're shocked to see the vast majority of it intact. You think because city blocks in Gaza City where terrorists lived and operated were bombarded to the ground and then blasted and blasted and blasted, the same sites day after day after day in order to breech the tunnels from above in what is called "bunker busting" that children would be there? Who am I talking to? This is not the body of knowledge of military generals, this is basic stuff adults who have the temerity to be spouting off about war should know about war. Thousands of dead children, you cant ignore that even as you make crystal clear their lives mean nothing to you. |
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Post by Xeliou66 on Dec 9, 2023 19:46:00 GMT
But the scary thing is, this is the state of most of the world right now. That's why it's so mind-blowing when people are like ISRAELI PROPANDA MACHINE AT WORK in response to NBC News who are practically pro-Hamas. You can see how opposite of reality it is in the video jeffersoncody posted where the Israeli soldier is so polite and explaining and over-explaining everything down to why they used military transport trucks -- and not buses -- to transport the men! You can't believe how how polite and explaining, and I'm thinking Fuck that. They hate. Explain nothing to these lying hate-filled irrational idiots.What they need to do is film more. Film everything. Take drone footage of Gaza and its beaches and palm trees and TONS of entirely intact buildings, neighborhoods and then release, post, broadcast it everywhere. People know nothing. It's shocking. But yes, you're right. Thank you for the reminders. It's bonkerstown. I've talked to a few who actually deleted from here over the disgust at the Semitic shit on this board. I find it sad, someone is in a war zone, and they treat them like shit. I don't approve of what Russia is doing, but if someone was in Russia being bombed, I'd wish them to be safe. Is this where we are? People don't care about their fellow man because of political views? I'm at the point, I wish someone would get in monkeys ear. This anti Semitic shit is pissing me off... Cry more, shady. You want people banned because you are trying to be Sci’s knight in shining armor, that’s the only reason posts from people like me are “pissing you off” because they piss Sci off and you are her bitch boy. Sci deserves every nasty word people throw at her and then some, she’s a vile human being and a literal terrorist. I’m so sick of the feelings of a handful of Zionists coming ahead of free speech. Fuck Zionism and fuck Israel. |
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 9, 2023 19:46:10 GMT
Again, missing my point, you are talking about combatants, I clearly said that it's fine if they were combatants. My point about human rights related to if they were just random people. They look like fighting age males so Israel has to assume they’re combatants. Remember this is a brainwashed crazy society like Japan in 1945. Their soldiers fought with fanaticism that would even shock the Waffen SS. No they dont have to treat civilians as potential combatants, that would be in breach of the Geneva Convention. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2023 19:46:26 GMT
That's not pro-Pal rhetoric. You're not getting it because you're determined to not get it, but that could be civilians under the gun of soldiers in Myanmar or civilians being interrogated by the North Korean military and it would still be the same. It's the tactic that I find grotesque. If you did too it shouldn't matter who it's happening to, or what uniform the army that's doing it is wearing. Of course, the inability to distinguish between civilian and combatant is 100% the fault of Hamas. The likelihood of a surrendering Palestinian concealing a weapon or a bomb is also their fault. What you are seeing is the most ethical and humane way of dealing with such an enemy. Anyone who calls that torture is an idiot of the highest degree. Shall I add you to the list? Yeah I just checked. I didn't call it torture. You're wrong. |
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Post by gwyn on Dec 9, 2023 19:54:50 GMT
Of course, the inability to distinguish between civilian and combatant is 100% the fault of Hamas. The likelihood of a surrendering Palestinian concealing a weapon or a bomb is also their fault. What you are seeing is the most ethical and humane way of dealing with such an enemy. Anyone who calls that torture is an idiot of the highest degree. Shall I add you to the list? Yeah I just checked. I didn't call it torture. You're wrong. The hilariously bullshit source you quoted as your original post calls it "torture", numbnuts: "Shawan Jabarin, director of the oldest Palestinian human rights group al-Haq, said the images indicate “torture, a war crime, and a crime against humanity”." |
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Post by gwyn on Dec 9, 2023 20:06:30 GMT
Oh my god, I was right. It doesn't whatsoever speak for itself. You have literally no clue. You're one of those people who sees the rarely broadcast footage of actual Gaza and you're shocked to see the vast majority of it intact. You think because city blocks in Gaza City where terrorists lived and operated were bombarded to the ground and then blasted and blasted and blasted, the same sites day after day after day in order to breech the tunnels from above in what is called "bunker busting" that children would be there? Who am I talking to? This is not the body of knowledge of military generals, this is basic stuff adults who have the temerity to be spouting off about war should know about war. Thousands of dead children, you cant ignore that even as you make crystal clear their lives mean nothing to you. Stop lying. You're being hysterical or knowingly pivoting in a repugnant way. How many times have I asked you now for a real answer? Photos of the same bombed out block of buildings in Gaza City -- especially the photos with living men and boys posing on the rubble, pointing and moping -- are not evidence of dead. Hysterical lies from the pro-Holocaust UN that has been shrieking FAMINE about these fatted up men since Day One is not a citation. What is the number and what is your source? Think. Your internet addiction has rotted your brain and you have no commitment to reality. You believe parroting the atrocious lies that Israel has violated the Geneva Convention, that Israel is careless with civilian lives, you believe this Blood Libel is acceptable because you lie down with dogs and wake up with fleas. And I do mean lie, not lay. Maybe you're the reason this board is getting reported by people who've already deleted from here in disgust at your Jew Hate. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2023 20:07:34 GMT
Yeah I just checked. I didn't call it torture. You're wrong. "Shawan Jabarin, director of the oldest Palestinian human rights group al-Haq, said the images indicate “torture, a war crime, and a crime against humanity”." And yet I did not.
Calling it a "hilariously bullshit source" doesn't make it so, and this story as well as photo and video have circulated in other sources. This is mainstream news now.
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Post by damngumby on Dec 9, 2023 20:08:26 GMT
Of course, the inability to distinguish between civilian and combatant is 100% the fault of Hamas. The likelihood of a surrendering Palestinian concealing a weapon or a bomb is also their fault. What you are seeing is the most ethical and humane way of dealing with such an enemy. Anyone who calls that torture is an idiot of the highest degree. Shall I add you to the list? I'm not sure I recall actually calling it torture. I said it was dehumanizing and disgusting. I don't think I actually called it torture directly though. Can you quote me on that? I argued, as the article explained, that they were "suspects" and not confirmed Hamas fighters. I repeated that human rights lawyers are looking into whether this could constitute a war crime, which I think depends on the credibility of the allegations against them, but I don't recall explicitly calling this torture. I'll check to be sure, but I don't think I did. Xel called it torture. He is already on the list. I asked if I should add you to the list. Are you saying that Xel’s inflated anti-Israeli rhetoric is wrong to call it torture? If your answer is - Yes (Xel is wrong) Then I can leave you off the list. If your answer is - No (Xel is not wrong) Then you belong on the list. Which is it? |
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Post by gwyn on Dec 9, 2023 20:12:39 GMT
The hilariously bullshit source you quoted as your original post calls it "torture", numbnuts: "Shawan Jabarin, director of the oldest Palestinian human rights group al-Haq, said the images indicate “torture, a war crime, and a crime against humanity”." And yet I did not.
Calling it a "hilariously bullshit source" doesn't make it so, and this story as well as photo and video have circulated in other sources. This is mainstream news now.
Either you believe it's truth or you admit it's a lie. Which is it? Let me guess, more of your endless liar's pivoting. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2023 20:18:09 GMT
And yet I did not.
Calling it a "hilariously bullshit source" doesn't make it so, and this story as well as photo and video have circulated in other sources. This is mainstream news now.
Either you believe it's truth or you admit it's a lie. Which is it? Let me guess, more of your endless liar's pivoting. You mean pivoting from not having called it torture to not having called it torture? No, you're the one lying at this point. If you thought I called it torture before then you were wrong. It happens. But now you're holding onto an untruth on purpose. That is lying. You are lying. You are a liar. But then again what else is new? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2023 20:26:30 GMT
I'm not sure I recall actually calling it torture. I said it was dehumanizing and disgusting. I don't think I actually called it torture directly though. Can you quote me on that? I argued, as the article explained, that they were "suspects" and not confirmed Hamas fighters. I repeated that human rights lawyers are looking into whether this could constitute a war crime, which I think depends on the credibility of the allegations against them, but I don't recall explicitly calling this torture. I'll check to be sure, but I don't think I did. Xel called it torture. He is already on the list. I asked if I should add you to the list. Are you saying that Xel’s inflated anti-Israeli rhetoric is wrong to call it torture? If your answer is - Yes (Xel is wrong) Then I can leave you off the list. If your answer is - No (Xel is not wrong) Then you belong on the list. Which is it? Do you have any questions or comments relevant to the story? |
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Post by drystyx on Dec 9, 2023 20:32:04 GMT
Either you believe it's truth or you admit it's a lie. Which is it? Let me guess, more of your endless liar's pivoting. You mean pivoting from not having called it torture to not having called it torture? No, you're the one lying at this point. If you thought I called it torture before then you were wrong. It happens. But now you're holding onto an untruth on purpose. That is lying. You are lying. You are a liar. But then again what else is new? Okay, you're not one of the real nut jobs, but you're enabling them by saying in your original post that you're "disappointed" that Israel took the safeguard of strip searching suspected terrorists when 100% of the human race knows that these terrorists have a history of hiding deadly mechanisms on their bodies. Okay, 100% of the human race outside of that one island of savages who kill anyone who comes to the island. They don't know it. And another post you claim that it's a bit much to strip search suspects, when this is a common practice, particularly in a war. No, you're not one of the maniacs, but you're enabling them, obviously out of fear. I understand your fear of people who are modern day versions of Hitler, Pol Pot, Robespierre, and Charles Manson combined into one spirit, but if you look at the records of such people, you'll learn that they don't give "brownie points". They massacre anyone they consider weak, and they consider anyone who gives in to them as weaklings. That's because they're totally out of control to demonic forces. |
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Post by damngumby on Dec 9, 2023 21:17:27 GMT
Xel called it torture. He is already on the list. I asked if I should add you to the list. Are you saying that Xel’s inflated anti-Israeli rhetoric is wrong to call it torture? If your answer is - Yes (Xel is wrong) Then I can leave you off the list. If your answer is - No (Xel is not wrong) Then you belong on the list. Which is it? Do you have any questions or comments relevant to the story? The story you posted quotes someone calling it torture. Do you agree with them (and Xel) or not? If you don’t agree with them, do you then agree that their rhetoric is overblown, inflated, and ultimately dishonest? |
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Post by OfUnknownOrigins on Dec 9, 2023 22:12:06 GMT
In the Battle of Okinawa, Americans ordered Japanese soldiers surrendering (the few that did) to strip completely nude and walk to them. Thats because so many of them that would surrender in the Pacific War would be concealing a grenade or other weapon to lunge at a nearby Marine or soldier. That was done to confirmed soldiers. Soldiers who were actually soldiers. Soldiers in uniform. Not suspects. Anyways, I get the message. Anything Israel does is instantly a war crime and it's all just bias. In this case that’s correct. Israel has to treat all fighting age males as a danger. This is a common sense decision by Israel IMO. |
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Post by jeffersoncody on Dec 9, 2023 22:28:23 GMT
Mounting evidence paints clearer picture of sexual violence during Hamas terror attacks | DW News
Investigators say there's mounting evidence that Hamas militants committed 'widespread' sexual crimes against Israeli women and men during the October 7 terror attacks.
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