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Post by 🐾 Molly 🐾 on Dec 19, 2023 1:07:09 GMT
Can you try again, except make sense this time? How do you imagine an ectopic pregnancy develops when a condom is used? 1) so in your world condoms have a 100% success rate? I live back here in reality. 2) that wasn’t even the point I was making. I said I was fighting for women’s rights over their own bodies, even yours, and you claimed that you didn’t need it because condoms. My point is that it’s not just unplanned pregnancies that are in need of an abortion. I’m guessing you’re not planning on having children and that’s awesome! I love that decision for you. But if you were , you would not be able to protect yourself from abnormalities that may require you to have an abortion, such as an ectopic pregnancy. Women in red states are finding that they are not able to protect their health in such cases, and that is a direct result of YOUR vote. Their blood is on your hands.
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Post by merh on Dec 19, 2023 5:53:33 GMT
Every method of birth control has a fail rate. 100% provably false. Can't believe you wrote that seriously. Other than abstinence (as long as one doesn't get raped). And sterilization. You believe every birth control method doesn't have a percentage of failure? So used properly, condoms result in 2 pregnancies out of 100 uses. Actual (human error prone behavior) is 18 out of 100.
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Post by abbey1227 on Dec 19, 2023 9:16:58 GMT
100% provably false. Can't believe you wrote that seriously. Other than abstinence (as long as one doesn't get raped). And sterilization. You believe every birth control method doesn't have a percentage of failure? So used properly, condoms result in 2 pregnancies out of 100 uses. Actual (human error prone behavior) is 18 out of 100.
You said every method.........and then other than.
Jesus, humans have failure rates even higher than I'd have guessed. They're even more irresponsible and stupid?
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Post by winterssuicide on Dec 19, 2023 12:49:39 GMT
100% provably false. Can't believe you wrote that seriously. Other than abstinence Oh, there you go! You are aware of the 100% success rate method for not getting pregnant!
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 19, 2023 12:51:27 GMT
My wife and I chose a termination when she fell accidentally pregnant, we did the sensible logical thing, we couldnt afford to proceed with a second child due to housing reasons at the time and didnt want to fall into a cycle of benefits dependency it would have been very difficult to escape. It was a tough choice and agonised over, but it was the right one and I am proud we took it. We have never regretted it and luckily we live in a sane country where adults get to make adult decisions without the State dictating what they can or cant do with their own bodies. Why the US has decided to let religion take precedence over people's freedoms is something that wont end well. You knew you weren't having another child yet you completely failed to "make the adult decision" to take responsibility for your reproductive situation? Did you just keep having abortions for the next couple of decades every few months, you know, like adults? terminating a clump of cells after an accidental pregnancy isn't really a big deal in most non God obsessed countries, but no, as I said, it was a one off and a tough decision but the right one. Thank you for your caring response though, it perfectly pin points the kind of "adult" that you are.
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Post by winterssuicide on Dec 19, 2023 12:53:24 GMT
You knew you weren't having another child yet you completely failed to "make the adult decision" to take responsibility for your reproductive situation? Did you just keep having abortions for the next couple of decades every few months, you know, like adults? terminating a clump of cells after an accidental pregnancy isn't really a big deal in most non God obsessed countries, but no, as I said, it was a one off and a tough decision but the right one. Thank you for your caring response though, it perfectly pin points the kind of "adult" that you are. Could say the same for you. Anyone who murders their own child and then says many years later that he's proud of the decision is not a well adult. Seek therapy.
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 19, 2023 12:53:25 GMT
You knew you weren't having another child yet you completely failed to "make the adult decision" to take responsibility for your reproductive situation? Did you just keep having abortions for the next couple of decades every few months, you know, like adults? I’ve always marvelled at “accidental pregnancy,” like a woman was walking down the sidewalk and got hit by a baby. Was a failure of contraception, rare but it happens, only ever happened once but there is the fact of it. I get the feeling from your posting history though that if a woman was gang raped you'd still insist on her being forced to give birth.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Dec 19, 2023 12:55:03 GMT
I'm not qualified to have an opinion on abortion.
I'm only a clump of cells.
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 19, 2023 12:59:51 GMT
You realize that contraception is not 100%, right? If a woman on oral contraceptives falls ill or takes antibiotics, this can result in the pill not being absorbed in their system or reduce effectiveness. I can’t believe I have to educate you people on this in 2023. Even if that woman does not fall ill or take ant-biotics she can fall pregnant, the pill is not infallible. As we found out.
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Post by merh on Dec 19, 2023 13:06:37 GMT
Oh, there you go! You are aware of the 100% success rate method for not getting pregnant! So that is the birth control you practice?
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 19, 2023 13:07:06 GMT
My wife and I chose a termination when she fell accidentally pregnant, we did the sensible logical thing, we couldnt afford to proceed with a second child due to housing reasons at the time and didnt want to fall into a cycle of benefits dependency it would have been very difficult to escape. It was a tough choice and agonised over, but it was the right one and I am proud we took it. We have never regretted it and luckily we live in a sane country where adults get to make adult decisions without the State dictating what they can or cant do with their own bodies. Why the US has decided to let religion take precedence over people's freedoms is something that wont end well. How many weeks pregnant was your wife when you and she made the decision to terminate the pregnancy? Oh, it was very early, she was very regular so suspected straight away, and after a pregnancy test we booked it straight away (private). It's 3 and a half decades ago so not exact but probably around the 8-10 weeks mark. Was a Mary Stopes clinic not that far away and they were lovely people. We don't get any crazies outside them thank God, can't imagine what that would be like on top of what you are going through.
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 19, 2023 13:09:24 GMT
My wife and I chose a termination when she fell accidentally pregnant, we did the sensible logical thing, we couldnt afford to proceed with a second child due to housing reasons at the time and didnt want to fall into a cycle of benefits dependency it would have been very difficult to escape. It was a tough choice and agonised over, but it was the right one and I am proud we took it. We have never regretted it and luckily we live in a sane country where adults get to make adult decisions without the State dictating what they can or cant do with their own bodies. Why the US has decided to let religion take precedence over people's freedoms is something that wont end well. That's fine. Adults making adult moves. I doubt she was going around saying "I'm proud of my abortion." I doubt more than 1 in a hundred thousand do, it's just that campaigners will always find that individual and try to make out that it's something more than a ridiculously extreme position which is where all these nonsense threads are born from.
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 19, 2023 13:17:00 GMT
Oh, there you go! You are aware of the 100% success rate method for not getting pregnant! I think most people live in the real world though and have sex. I'd lay money that the huge percentage of those with the God bothering anti bodily autonomy crowd do NOT have children. Those of us that do understand the whole pros and cons so much more from real world experience than taking a position from being a spinster or bible basher.
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 19, 2023 13:20:06 GMT
terminating a clump of cells after an accidental pregnancy isn't really a big deal in most non God obsessed countries, but no, as I said, it was a one off and a tough decision but the right one. Thank you for your caring response though, it perfectly pin points the kind of "adult" that you are. Could say the same for you. Anyone who murders their own child and then says many years later that he's proud of the decision is not a well adult. Seek therapy. I made it clear that I am "proud" that we took the time to make the sensible, mature, dependent decision rather than decide based on supernatural beliefs or to take a life of Government support. And yes, I guess I did "murder" my 10 week old clump of cells, but only if you are a thick cunt.
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Post by winterssuicide on Dec 19, 2023 13:22:33 GMT
Oh, there you go! You are aware of the 100% success rate method for not getting pregnant! So that is the birth control you practice? Of course not. I'm a responsible, married adult. I have sex freely and raise my children.
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