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Post by Captain Spencer on Jan 5, 2024 3:25:39 GMT
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Post by petrolino on Jan 7, 2024 4:14:15 GMT
Dario Argento's previous documentaries that I've seen have either been blatant tie-ins or shameless puff pieces, basically promotional tools that always disappoint. Thankfully, he's one of the last men standing of a generation of formidable Italian genre filmmakers (we lost Aldo Lado leading up to Christmas), but will he invite genuine analysis of his work? I feel his recent films have left a bit to be desired, which is putting it kindly, though it's partly due to changing market forces which could be discussed in any detailed and attentive documentary.
Hopefully, contemporaries like Tinto Brass, Sergio Martino and Michele Massimo Tarantini will be invited to contribute, as pals like Luigi Cozzi and Michele Soavi will be blowing smoke so far up that chimney there'll be no tomorrow. We live in hope ...
Thanks for the news.
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Post by Captain Spencer on Jan 7, 2024 4:56:03 GMT
Dario Argento's previous documentaries that I've seen have either been blatant tie-ins or shameless puff pieces, basically promotional tools that always disappoint. Thankfully, he's one of the last men standing of a generation of formidable Italian genre filmmakers (we lost Aldo Lado leading up to Christmas), but will he invite genuine analysis of his work? I feel his recent films have left a bit to be desired, which is putting it kindly, though it's partly due to changing market forces which could be discussed in any detailed and attentive documentary.
Hopefully, contemporaries like Tinto Brass, Sergio Martino and Michele Massimo Tarantini will be invited to contribute, as pals like Luigi Cozzi and Michele Soavi will be blowing smoke so far up that chimney there'll be no tomorrow. We live in hope ...
Thanks for the news. I can say for certain that Michele Soavi is among the interviewees, and so is Guillermo del Toro.
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Post by petrolino on Jan 7, 2024 5:00:46 GMT
Dario Argento's previous documentaries that I've seen have either been blatant tie-ins or shameless puff pieces, basically promotional tools that always disappoint. Thankfully, he's one of the last men standing of a generation of formidable Italian genre filmmakers (we lost Aldo Lado leading up to Christmas), but will he invite genuine analysis of his work? I feel his recent films have left a bit to be desired, which is putting it kindly, though it's partly due to changing market forces which could be discussed in any detailed and attentive documentary.
Hopefully, contemporaries like Tinto Brass, Sergio Martino and Michele Massimo Tarantini will be invited to contribute, as pals like Luigi Cozzi and Michele Soavi will be blowing smoke so far up that chimney there'll be no tomorrow. We live in hope ...
Thanks for the news. I can say for certain that Michele Soavi is among the interviewees, and so is Guillermo del Toro.
Makes sense. It's time for an update from the likes of 'Dario Argento World Of Horror' (1985) and 'Dario Argento : An Eye For Horror' (2001), looking forward to hopefully seeing it, thanks.
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Post by yggdrasil on Jan 7, 2024 13:12:24 GMT
He had a wonderful 12 years between 1975 and 1987, but since then it's just been hope and the odd flash of inspiration (Jenifer) Have to say I have given up. the God awful "Mother Of Tears" end to the 3 Mothers trilogy destroyed all hope.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Jan 11, 2024 0:34:27 GMT
I can say for certain that Michele Soavi is among the interviewees, and so is Guillermo del Toro.
Makes sense. It's time for an update from the likes of 'Dario Argento World Of Horror' (1985) and 'Dario Argento : An Eye For Horror' (2001), looking forward to hopefully seeing it, thanks.
I have only seen World Of Horror. What more is there to say?
This one might be worth a look. I haven't seen yet: Dario Argento Master Of Horror - '91
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Post by petrolino on Jan 13, 2024 3:01:12 GMT
Makes sense. It's time for an update from the likes of 'Dario Argento World Of Horror' (1985) and 'Dario Argento : An Eye For Horror' (2001), looking forward to hopefully seeing it, thanks.
I have only seen World Of Horror. What more is there to say?
I don't know. Perhaps nothing.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Jan 13, 2024 3:05:59 GMT
I have only seen World Of Horror. What more is there to say?
I don't know. Perhaps nothing.
Have you seen Master Of Horror? You didn't mention it. I know I like World Of Horror because it covers the period of Argento that I enjoy. I never cared for him after Opera.
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Post by petrolino on Jan 13, 2024 3:09:55 GMT
I don't know. Perhaps nothing.
Have you seen Master Of Horror? You didn't mention it. I know I like World Of Horror because it covers the period of Argento that I enjoy. I never cared for him after Opera.
To be honest, I get those generic titles confused, but I've seen two or three of the older press kit documentaries for sure as they were dvd extras when Dario Argento's films were first released on the format.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Jan 13, 2024 3:45:56 GMT
Have you seen Master Of Horror? You didn't mention it. I know I like World Of Horror because it covers the period of Argento that I enjoy. I never cared for him after Opera.
To be honest, I get those generic titles confused, but I've seen two or three of the older press kit documentaries for sure as they were dvd extras when Dario Argento's films were first released on the format.
Argento was an artist, but I do think he's way up on the disorder spectrum somewhere. He is full of ego too. He states in World Of Horror that he does what he does because he wants to be loved. He perhaps wants to be revered rather than respected. Who knows! When he gets it right, he knows how deliver the substance of his horror opus's within his style and this is a gift. I feel he got it right many times in the mid 70's to mid 80's. He certainly left indelible imprints on my mind with his imagery.
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Post by petrolino on Jan 13, 2024 3:56:34 GMT
To be honest, I get those generic titles confused, but I've seen two or three of the older press kit documentaries for sure as they were dvd extras when Dario Argento's films were first released on the format.
Argento was an artist, but I do think he's way up on the disorder spectrum somewhere. He is full of ego too. He states in World Of Horror that he does what he does because he wants to be loved. He perhaps wants to be revered rather than respected. Who knows! When he gets it right, he knows how deliver the substance of his horror opus's within his style and this is a gift. I feel he got it right many times in the mid 70's to mid 80's. He certainly left indelible imprints on my mind with his imagery.
I think he was also a respected film critic turned director, which was a popular trend at the time in European art cinema that lent gravitas. The big advantage he had was family backing and connections, status and financial clout. Directors like Lucio Fulci, Umberto Lenzi, Aristide Massaccesi etc. were regularly being mocked by "its so bad its good" brand critics here in the U K, while Argento was the signature polish, the "real mccoy", quickly establishing himself as a global brand to be reckoned with (and with a horror musem staffed by filmmakers to boot).
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Jan 13, 2024 6:00:33 GMT
Argento was an artist, but I do think he's way up on the disorder spectrum somewhere. He is full of ego too. He states in World Of Horror that he does what he does because he wants to be loved. He perhaps wants to be revered rather than respected. Who knows! When he gets it right, he knows how deliver the substance of his horror opus's within his style and this is a gift. I feel he got it right many times in the mid 70's to mid 80's. He certainly left indelible imprints on my mind with his imagery. I think he was also a respected film critic turned director, which was a popular trend at the time in European art cinema that lent gravitas. The big advantage he had was family backing and connections, status and financial clout. Directors like Lucio Fulci, Umberto Lenzi, Aristide Massaccesi etc. were regularly being mocked by "its so bad its good" brand critics here in the U K, while Argento was the signature polish, the "real mccoy", quickly establishing himself as a global brand to be reckoned with (and with a horror musem staffed by filmmakers to boot).
Argento had more class and it does show in the finished product. He is also credited for story on Leone's Once Upon A Time In The West. I shouldn't be too judgmental I guess on my interpretation of Argento's psychology. His dark side has kept me entertained for some of my life's best horror film moments. He does have a very unusual and creepy look.
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Post by petrolino on Jan 13, 2024 6:02:40 GMT
I think he was also a respected film critic turned director, which was a popular trend at the time in European art cinema that lent gravitas. The big advantage he had was family backing and connections, status and financial clout. Directors like Lucio Fulci, Umberto Lenzi, Aristide Massaccesi etc. were regularly being mocked by "its so bad its good" brand critics here in the U K, while Argento was the signature polish, the "real mccoy", quickly establishing himself as a global brand to be reckoned with (and with a horror musem staffed by filmmakers to boot).
Argento had more class and it does show in the finished product. He is also credited for story on Leone's Once Upon A Time In The West. I shouldn't be too judgmental I guess on my interpretation of Argento's psychology. His dark side has kept me entertained for some of my life's best horror film moments. He does have a very unusual and creepy look.
He had more money than most. I imagine that helps.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Jan 13, 2024 6:09:30 GMT
Argento had more class and it does show in the finished product. He is also credited for story on Leone's Once Upon A Time In The West. I shouldn't be too judgmental I guess on my interpretation of Argento's psychology. His dark side has kept me entertained for some of my life's best horror film moments. He does have a very unusual and creepy look.
He had more money than most. I imagine that helps.
I might watch that Master Of Horror doco this weekend and see how it compares to World Of Horror. It was only made 6yrs later. I haven't seen Mother Of Tears and read some pretty mediocre things about it. I wonder why he took so long to make it.
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Post by petrolino on Jan 13, 2024 6:15:34 GMT
He had more money than most. I imagine that helps.
I might watch that Master Of Horror doco this weekend and see how it compares to World Of Horror. It was only made 6yrs later. I haven't seen Mother Of Tears and read some pretty mediocre things about it. I wonder why he took so long to make it.
Perhaps this new documentary will reveal all and tell all. I imagine he just suffered from the bottom falling out of the market and recruited cronies to uphold a flagging tribute act that's a hit on the revival tour.
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