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Post by Pippen on Jan 8, 2024 3:01:50 GMT
I like Indiana Jones. I liked all of the movies 1-4. Some more than others with Doom being #4 in the list.
But ...Dial of Destiny ... nope!
Best thing about it was seeing the de-aged younger Indy again.
The rest of it is a muddled mess with saying what is actually going on too rushed so they can get on with the 99% rest of the movie which is action and blowing things up and hitting each other in impossible to survive ways. I gave up on it after the first hour or so and I almost never give up on movies.
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Post by Catman on Jan 8, 2024 3:21:19 GMT
Maybe they should have done an Indy-Godzilla crossover.
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Post by James on Jan 8, 2024 3:53:46 GMT
Interesting that you hail the de-aging in the opening as the best part. I have seen most people dunk on it, even from those who liked the movie.
I thought the movie as a whole was fun if far from perfect.
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Post by dsbeadle on Jan 8, 2024 3:57:42 GMT
Certainly better than crystal skull
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jan 8, 2024 5:24:03 GMT
I liked it. The middle is slow, though. The beginning and end were surprisingly solid.
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Post by Lux on Jan 8, 2024 7:51:55 GMT
Certainly better than crystal skull It really wasn't. Yeah it's the cool thing to say because it's Harrison's last but it just wasn't and the box office agrees.
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Post by charzhino on Jan 8, 2024 11:46:36 GMT
The de-aging was not very good. Its quite obvious with the disconnect of his voice and movement. The main problems of the movie are the boring, repeat & rewind plot chase sequences and the character of Phoebe Waller-Bridge who stole the show in the worst way possible.
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Post by politicidal1 on Jan 8, 2024 14:06:47 GMT
I liked it, but PWB was very annoying. Could have used more Nazis vs Romans too.
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Post by merh on Jan 13, 2024 11:45:03 GMT
I like Indiana Jones. I liked all of the movies 1-4. Some more than others with Doom being #4 in the list. But ...Dial of Destiny ... nope! Best thing about it was seeing the de-aged younger Indy again. The rest of it is a muddled mess with saying what is actually going on too rushed so they can get on with the 99% rest of the movie which is action and blowing things up and hitting each other in impossible to survive ways. I gave up on it after the first hour or so and I almost never give up on movies. I enjoyed it thoroughly both times I paid to see it in a movie theater. It gave Indy a good end. Yes, there were standard plot twists (divorce!) LaBouf tanked his own career so they needed to have a way to remove him. Having gone thru retirement myself, I know it hits different people different ways. Guys often seem to take it harder.
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Post by drystyx on Jan 13, 2024 13:09:59 GMT
I don't understand where you're coming from. I see no motivation in anything you say about the movie.
There are some sloppy bits in the action sequences, so if you're looking for special effects, this isn't the film for you. However, the drama scenes are exceptionally well done.
It's undeniably better than number 2 and number 4, and for those of us who were in theater once, it's better than number 3. It's hard to beat the first film. That's too iconic and spectacular, but it is the second best of the series, and for my money DIAL OF DESTINY is the best film of the entire series, even better than Raiders of the Lost Ark, but I was always into writing and theater..
It's actually an obvious remake of PRINCE OF FOXES 1949, except the girl is the protagonist, not Indy. She plays the same character that Tyrone Power played in his movie.
The plot isn't the dial of destiny. That's a red herring. The plot is the character who lives in a world where Machiavelli's prince is worshipped on the supreme pedestal, and who wants to be the "prince", a cold hearted character who gives the illusion of being considerate and moderate on the outside, but inside is devious.
In both movies, the character becomes the exact opposite of Machiavelli's prince in a world full of Machiavellian princes.
Our heroine presents the illusion that she is cold hearted, but we learn that she isn't really a Machiavellian princess inside. Instead, she's the opposite, but she doesn't want to admit it, because she lives in a world where people are disgusted by "nice people".
It's a commentary on the world, especially Western culture.
I don't know if it was intentional, but it's very symbolic that the movie is an oxymoron in Hollywood, just as the prince/princess character is an oxymoron.
The movie is an oxymoron because the drama scenes are finely crafted, while the action scenes are sloppy and impossible to understand.
9/10
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Post by ck100 on Apr 3, 2024 21:37:00 GMT
Report: Disney Lost Over $100 Million on Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destinywww.yahoo.com/entertainment/report-disney-lost-over-100-192008233.html"Despite the overall love of the Indiana Jones franchise, a recent report suggests that the latest film was a major letdown for Disney. According to financial statements released on Friday (via Forbes), Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny spent $134.2 million more on making the movie than it it is reported to have earned back. This makes the film a significant failure in terms profitable returns. Some of the filings for the film also reveal what went into making the project, including a whopping $79 million that was spent on post-production work, including digitally de-aging Ford. By April 2023, the film’s budget had ballooned to $387.2 million, which unfortunately was just about the same as to what the film earned at the box office globally ($384 million)."
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Post by ck100 on Apr 3, 2024 23:58:32 GMT
Amazing that over $100 million of the budget was spent just on Harrison Ford for this movie. His $25-30 million paycheck and $79 million just to de-age him for the prologue. That's a lot of faith to put in an 80-year old actor to sell tickets to an action/adventure film they're starring in.
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Post by politicidal1 on Apr 4, 2024 0:05:27 GMT
Amazing that over $100 million of the budget was spent just on Harrison Ford for this movie. His $25-30 million paycheck and $79 million just to de-age him for the prologue. That's a lot of faith to put in an 80-year old actor to sell tickets to an action/adventure film they're starring in. Ouch. The thing about that is we've already seen young Indiana Jones before whether it be River Phoenix or Sean Patrick Flanery. Hell, they could had just gotten that lookalike actor Anthony Ingruber for the prologue or maybe even for a majority of the film if they set it in the 1930s or 1940s.
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Post by James on Apr 4, 2024 0:23:23 GMT
Amazing that over $100 million of the budget was spent just on Harrison Ford for this movie. His $25-30 million paycheck and $79 million just to de-age him for the prologue. That's a lot of faith to put in an 80-year old actor to sell tickets to an action/adventure film they're starring in. Ouch. The thing about that is we've already seen young Indiana Jones before whether it be River Phoenix or Sean Patrick Flanery. Hell, they could had just gotten that lookalike actor Anthony Ingruber for the prologue or maybe even for a majority of the film if they set it in the 1930s or 1940s. The funny thing is that he was actually the body double for Indy in the prologue.
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Post by politicidal1 on Apr 4, 2024 1:49:30 GMT
Ouch. The thing about that is we've already seen young Indiana Jones before whether it be River Phoenix or Sean Patrick Flanery. Hell, they could had just gotten that lookalike actor Anthony Ingruber for the prologue or maybe even for a majority of the film if they set it in the 1930s or 1940s. The funny thing is that he was actually the body double for Indy in the prologue. See, there you go.
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