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Post by Flying Monkeys on Jan 27, 2018 12:47:59 GMT
In case you are wondering who he is, he is Labour's Shadow Chancellor (the guy would be in charge of the money if they got into government) and Jeremy Corbyn's right-hand man.
He doesn't hide his communist leanings and once flung a copy of Chairman Mao's Little Red Book across the despatch box to George Osborne, the then chancellor, saying he could learn a lot from it. Osborne opened the cover and said, "Oh look, it's his personal signed copy", bringing the house down with uproarious laughter.
However, this is no laughing matter. If the Conservatives mess up and we get Labour, this is second-in-command in the UK.
Third-in-command would be a clown called Diane Abbott who said that Labour would employ 10,000 more policemen. When asked how much it would cost, she said £300,000 over 4 years.
If they get in, goodbye, it was nice knowing you.
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Post by kls on Jan 27, 2018 13:01:49 GMT
Then why the hell would people or businesses hire an accounting firm in the first place? They'd do their own books.
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Post by Harold of Whoa on Jan 27, 2018 14:49:54 GMT
Then why the hell would people or businesses hire an accounting firm in the first place? They'd do their own books. Do you think that a government which would enact such a requirement for accountants would hesitate to mandate the use of accountants by businesses and certain taxpayers? I don't. The country would be lucky, in fact, if they don't just nationalize all accountants and make them agents of the government operating within the businesses.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Jan 27, 2018 14:53:27 GMT
Do you think that a government which would enact such a requirement for accountants would hesitate to mandate the use of accountants by businesses and certain taxpayers? I don't. The country would be lucky, in fact, if they don't just nationalize all accountants and make them agents of the government operating within the businesses. Spot on - the accountants would, in effect, become legalised thieves for the government. Interesting that the Davos crowd boo Trump but don't boo this guy.
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Post by Harold of Whoa on Jan 27, 2018 15:55:50 GMT
Spot on - the accountants would, in effect, become legalised thieves for the government. You're right, of course, and it's an outrageous proposal, but if you don't mind me saying so, it seems to be a pretty narrow window with you. You rail against companies like Apple for being free-loading tax cheats because they don't pay enough...precisely because they have smart accountants working in their best interests to minimize tax liability. Now, I understand that there is a difference between not paying what you legally owe vs. taking maximum advantage of the laws, but these things are very complicated and there can be honest disagreements over interpretation of the rules - that's part of what accountants do. Huh...also interesting is the different coverage in the news. I haven't followed Davos closely, the the reporting here has indicated that Trump got a surprisingly warm reception. I know there was one spate of booing/hissing in response to one phrase of his introduction, but generally the globalists seemed to have welcomed him with open arms, which I was not expecting. They like those low corporate taxes, perhaps. Yeah, that will be sad. Thanks for the starter language, the muffins, and for holding off Hitler until we could get there. Au revoir.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Jan 27, 2018 17:23:42 GMT
if you don't mind me saying so, it seems to be a pretty narrow window with you. You rail against companies like Apple for being free-loading tax cheats because they don't pay enough.. I just want companies to pay what is fair. Apple and McDonnell are both extremists - Apple abuses (in my view) the tax laws to pay the minimum possible (and so does not pay their fair share for services) while McDonnell wants to abuse (in my view) the law to make them pay the maximum possible (so they would probably be paying more than their fair share for services). I just want to see the middle ground between these two extremes where everyone pays fairly. This Labour clown is anti-business, anti-prosperity and anti-success. He hates the fact that he is useless, probably did shit at school and now wants to get revenge by punishing people with his extremist views - "That'll teach you to be successful!"
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Post by ebuzzmiller on Jan 28, 2018 0:30:29 GMT
That's a silly stance. If he was saying they shouldn't be actively working to help with tax avoidance scams and the like, then there's a fair point to be made. However the whole issue seems to be in essence saying 'we admit that the tax code we come up with is always outsmarted by people who exploit the loopholes, so let the wolf guard the chicken coop and swear he'll be good'.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 12:17:34 GMT
In case you are wondering who he is, he is Labour's Shadow Chancellor (the guy would be in charge of the money if they got into government) and Jeremy Corbyn's right-hand man. He doesn't hide his communist leanings and once flung a copy of Chairman Mao's Little Red Book across the despatch box to George Osborne, the then chancellor, saying he could learn a lot from it. Osborne opened the cover and said, "Oh look, it's his personal signed copy", bringing the house down with uproarious laughter. However, this is no laughing matter. If the Conservatives mess up and we get Labour, this is second-in-command in the UK. Third-in-command would be a clown called Diane Abbott who said that Labour would employ 10,000 more policemen. When asked how much it would cost, she said £300,000 over 4 years. If they get in, goodbye, it was nice knowing you. What I'd like to know is how they feel about the application of the REAL Hippocratic oath in relationship to your NHS and medical schools.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 12:45:31 GMT
Then why the hell would people or businesses hire an accounting firm in the first place? They'd do their own books. For some companies, it's cheaper than having their own unit. Or a company may be required to be independently audited.
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