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Post by skaathar on Jan 29, 2024 13:28:20 GMT
With how badly The Marvels has done in the box office, can we conclude that the first Captain Marvel movie making over $1 billion was a fluke?
After all, no MCU sequel has ever seen such a gigantic drop in box office.
Even Love & Thunder (which most people agree was horrible) made a lot more than The Marvels... and that's despite the fact that no Thor movie ever came close to matching the box office of Captain Marvel.
Same can be said of Quantumania. It earned more than double of The Marvels despite the first Antman making less than half of Captain Marvel. And Quantumania was released only 9 months prior to The Marvels.
So, do we now have enough proof to show without a doubt that Captain Marvel's high box office was a fluke?
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Jan 29, 2024 13:58:47 GMT
It is a better movie, with a less sophomoric script than The Marvels.
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Post by bomtombadil on Jan 29, 2024 14:31:02 GMT
With how badly The Marvels has done in the box office, can we conclude that the first Captain Marvel movie making over $1 billion was a fluke? After all, no MCU sequel has ever seen such a gigantic drop in box office. Even Love & Thunder (which most people agree was horrible) made a lot more than The Marvels... and that's despite the fact that no Thor movie ever came close to matching the box office of Captain Marvel. Same can be said of Quantumania. It earned more than double of The Marvels despite the first Antman making less than half of Captain Marvel. And Quantumania was released only 9 months prior to The Marvels. So, do we now have enough proof to show without a doubt that Captain Marvel's high box office was a fluke? Well I'm sure some of it's box office success was a result of how this movie was tied into the Infinity War saga. It wasn't a bad movie. |
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Post by Lux on Jan 29, 2024 17:51:44 GMT
Anything Marvel that rode the Pre Endgame wave was printing money now with Stark dead and the Avengers disassembled there's no reason to stop Captain Marvel falling to her death anymore. Plus the first Wonder Woman maybe helped a little too.
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Post by charzhino on Jan 30, 2024 13:18:45 GMT
It was a fluke. Cant fault Disney for its marketing straegy and damage control done by Rotten Tomatoes. It got all the help it needed for it to make 1 billion+ (allegedly).
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Jan 30, 2024 14:56:38 GMT
It was a fluke. Cant fault Disney for its marketing straegy and damage control done by Rotten Tomatoes. It got all the help it needed for it to make 1 billion+ (allegedly). The Marvels is a decent three-fight comic movie, but it unforgivably stars women superheroes who are not in the traditional supporting roles of supporting the male heroes. You know women don’t have the strength to be superheroes. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2024 3:15:00 GMT
Not sure I love the negative connotation of the word fluke, but yes and no. No for the negative connotation, but yes to what I perceive as the lesser movies doing well because it rode the wave. I really think the first 3 phases did so well because it worked like a play with each film being like a new chapter. For me, it wasn't until Captain America: Civil War, that I noticed the Marvel movies I liked started gaining traction. Until then I had no concept of anyone outside my circle giving a shit about Marvel. Around that time I thought society was catching on. Before then they were popular, but not zeitgeist popular. I think Star Wars elevated the MCU as well in the days of the first two sequel movies because they looked less organized than the MCU on and offscreen, but as far as quality goes, I've always felt the lesser films were raised by the rest because it's all the same film, but in different chapters. The new films have no real cohesion. IMO, the best one of them, Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3, is the best because it's least like the others.
Captain Marvel in the MCU became a storyboard filler, in my opinion. She was there so Fury's eye could be explained and to introduce the Cree and the Skrulls. Without her, Iron Man and Nebula would have never made it back to Earth, so she serves a purpose. The problem is it's superfluous. She's an absentee ringer with whom there could be no Endgame but who also shows up in the last 5 minutes of battle. For me, her story is the least necessary of all the chapters. Financially you could see it coming. What goes up must come down, and it doesn't get much more up than Endgame. I don't know what the figures are, but I'll bet they've been in decline ever since, with maybe a brief pop for Spiderman: No Way Home because it's Spiderman.
I haven't seen the Marvels, but Captain Marvel is the dividing line between the Endgame that could and never was. That pager could have been for anybody. It's almost the mystery I prefer to than where it went. It's that split where they could have kept the roster as it were. She's so powerful. She's too much character for that late in the game. I didn't even know Captain Marvel had a high box office, but it doesn't surprise me because those movies were page-turners. I saw Captain Marvel in theaters. I had to. For the MCU, theater viewing and home viewing is like IMAX versus VHS. Watching it at home is almost as bad as missing it.
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