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Post by averagejoe2021 on Jun 29, 2024 1:22:26 GMT
Wait..this was the guy who called it for Gore in 2000 and said Trump would win the popular in 2016, right? This isn't the referral you want especially when they're increasingly clashing with the direction. This guy called the popular vote for Gore and the Presidency for Trump. No one has more credibility than him predicting elections. Well since he was wrong about Gore winning and the popular vote in 2016, its established he isn't really as accurate as you're hoping. The RCP being within roughly 1% of the voting totals has been far more accurate. Due to the electoral college, the Democrats need to carry the popular vote by around 3%. Biden is currently more than a full point behind and is losing in all the battleground states. Mind you, this was before his utter collapse last night and calls to replace him. To this end, the wishful thinking in Biden's favor can be taken with a grain of salt. Here is the current Biden approval. As a reminder, this was before the worst debate in memory courtesy Biden. www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/joe-biden/approval-ratingAnd here are the battlegrounds where Trump outperformed polls in both 2016 and 2020. ALSO prior to Biden's embarrassing collapse. www.realclearpolling.com/elections/president/2024/battleground-states
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Post by Boricanator on Jun 29, 2024 1:42:34 GMT
This guy called the popular vote for Gore and the Presidency for Trump. No one has more credibility than him predicting elections. Well since he was wrong about Gore winning and the popular vote in 2016, its established he isn't really as accurate as you're hoping. The RCP being within roughly 1% of the voting totals has been far more accurate. Due to the electoral college, the Democrats need to carry the popular vote by around 3%. Biden is currently more than a full point behind and is losing in all the battleground states. Mind you, this was before his utter collapse last night and calls to replace him. To this end, the wishful thinking in Biden's favor can be taken with a grain of salt. Here is the current Biden approval. As a reminder, this was before the worst debate in memory courtesy Biden. www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/joe-biden/approval-ratingAnd here are the battlegrounds where Trump outperformed polls in both 2016 and 2020. ALSO prior to Biden's embarrassing collapse. www.realclearpolling.com/elections/president/2024/battleground-states I just corrected you on both arguments. But you continue to lie. It’s what you do.
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Post by jackspicer on Jun 29, 2024 1:46:49 GMT
Biden's brain melted on live TV, and America's enemies saw it, but somehow that's not a huge scandal. Ok Boric. TDS has addled your mind almost as badly as Biden's. That is not what a scandal is for these purposes. As usual, you don’t know what you are talking about. Ok Boric. The 'president' has dementia, and the whole world including our enemies saw it, but it's not a scandal. Gotcha.
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Post by averagejoe2021 on Jun 29, 2024 1:50:50 GMT
Well since he was wrong about Gore winning and the popular vote in 2016, its established he isn't really as accurate as you're hoping. The RCP being within roughly 1% of the voting totals has been far more accurate. Due to the electoral college, the Democrats need to carry the popular vote by around 3%. Biden is currently more than a full point behind and is losing in all the battleground states. Mind you, this was before his utter collapse last night and calls to replace him. To this end, the wishful thinking in Biden's favor can be taken with a grain of salt. Here is the current Biden approval. As a reminder, this was before the worst debate in memory courtesy Biden. www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/joe-biden/approval-ratingAnd here are the battlegrounds where Trump outperformed polls in both 2016 and 2020. ALSO prior to Biden's embarrassing collapse. www.realclearpolling.com/elections/president/2024/battleground-states I want to pretend that I corrected you on both arguments but realized you were right. I have to continue to lie just like about the ridiculous notion of "Biden prosperity". It’s what I do. FIFYPer CNN (when reviewing his record) "It’s worth mentioning that in 2000, Lichtman predicted that Al Gore would win the election." And here he was wrong in 2016 as he maintained the popular vote. thepostrider.com/allan-lichtman-is-famous-for-correctly-predicting-the-2016-election-the-problem-he-didnt/"The history professor is one of the few credited with predicting Trump's 2016 win. There's just one problem: he's rewritten history to obfuscate that his model only predicted the popular vote, which Trump lost." Glad you gave me the chance to further humiliate you. Not as bad as Trump did to Biden, but I'll take it.
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Post by mr_self on Jun 29, 2024 1:55:58 GMT
That is not what a scandal is for these purposes. As usual, you don’t know what you are talking about. Ok Boric. The 'president' has dementia, and the whole world including our enemies saw it, but it's not a scandal. Gotcha. To be fair, old timer moments don't equal dementia. Did Biden look like shit? Yes. Does that mean he has 'dementia'? Unclear. I'm not defending Old Joe as he is clearly unfit to hold office, but that does not mean he has dementia. An irrelevant argument? Sure. But I'm drunk so whatever. Carry on, comrades!
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Post by Boricanator on Jun 29, 2024 1:57:45 GMT
I just corrected you on both arguments but realized you were right. I have to continue to lie just like about the ridiculous notion of "Biden prosperity". It’s what I do. FIFYPer CNN (when reviewing his record) "It’s worth mentioning that in 2000, Lichtman predicted that Al Gore would win the election." And here he was wrong in 2016 as he maintained the popular vote. thepostrider.com/allan-lichtman-is-famous-for-correctly-predicting-the-2016-election-the-problem-he-didnt/"The history professor is one of the few credited with predicting Trump's 2016 win. There's just one problem: he's rewritten history to obfuscate that his model only predicted the popular vote, which Trump lost." Glad you gave me the chance to further humiliate you. Not as bad as Trump did to Biden, but I'll take it. [img alt=" ![[wink]](//storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/YtjssufvBAgbaKASjxHl.gif) " class="smile" src="//storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/YtjssufvBAgbaKASjxHl.gif"] He predicted Gore would win the popular vote. Gore won the popular vote. So, he got Gore right. Besides, we all know 2000 was stolen by the Bushes. In the end, his model has been the most accurate system for Predicting election. His prediction of Trump is still accurate as the popular vote is becoming less relevant with changes in this country. He is still better than anything out there. There, I defeated you as always.
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Post by Boricanator on Jun 29, 2024 2:03:11 GMT
Ok Boric. The 'president' has dementia, and the whole world including our enemies saw it, but it's not a scandal. Gotcha. To be fair, old timer moments don't equal dementia. Did Biden look like shit? Yes. Does that mean he has 'dementia'? Unclear. I'm not defending Old Joe as he is clearly unfit to hold office, but that does mean he has dementia. An irrelevant argument? Sure. But I'm drunk so whatever. Carry on, comrades! The Scandal key has very specific instructions and Biden tanking is the debate is not one of them. But Jack, being a Republican, is too stupid to understand this.
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Post by averagejoe2021 on Jun 29, 2024 2:14:18 GMT
Per CNN (when reviewing his record) "It’s worth mentioning that in 2000, Lichtman predicted that Al Gore would win the election." And here he was wrong in 2016 as he maintained the popular vote. thepostrider.com/allan-lichtman-is-famous-for-correctly-predicting-the-2016-election-the-problem-he-didnt/"The history professor is one of the few credited with predicting Trump's 2016 win. There's just one problem: he's rewritten history to obfuscate that his model only predicted the popular vote, which Trump lost." Glad you gave me the chance to further humiliate you. Not as bad as Trump did to Biden, but I'll take it. [img alt=" ![[wink]](//storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/YtjssufvBAgbaKASjxHl.gif) " class="smile" src="//storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/YtjssufvBAgbaKASjxHl.gif"] He predicted Gore would win the popular vote. Gore won the popular vote. So, he got Gore right. Besides, we all know 2000 was stolen by the Bushes. In the end, his model has been the most accurate system for Predicting election. His prediction of Trump is still accurate as the popular vote is becoming less relevant with changes in this country. He is still better than anything out there. There, I defeated you as always. Nope... I even gave the links to show he was wrong in both situations. He bases his win upon the popular vote...NOT electoral. To this end, he was wrong twice. Most of the others such as Reagan and Bush Sr winning weren't even remotely difficult predictions as they were comfortable margins of victory. Now, when we compare just a prediction of the popular vote, RCP has been within roughly 1% point. Given the makeup of the states, Democrats need roughly 3% more to win electorally. Since Biden is behind than by more than 1 point PRIOR to his collapse, the model therefore works against Biden. So we go with either a nearly perfect system of RCP... or a guy who was right regarding barely 50% of the time in fairly close elections. We go with the former. We don't need you sulking over there just because your only refuge was a guy whose barely half right. I know you wanted a first victory in our debates but sadly that won't be occurring today or for the foreseeable future. 2000 election stolen?.... ROFL And you guys still get unto the few who said 2020 was questionable.
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Post by Boricanator on Jun 29, 2024 2:16:45 GMT
He predicted Gore would win the popular vote. Gore won the popular vote. So, he got Gore right. Besides, we all know 2000 was stolen by the Bushes. In the end, his model has been the most accurate system for Predicting election. His prediction of Trump is still accurate as the popular vote is becoming less relevant with changes in this country. He is still better than anything out there. There, I defeated you as always. Nope... I ever gave the links to show he was wrong in both situations. He bases his win upon the popular vote...NOT electoral. To this end, he was wrong twice. Most of the others such as Reagan and Bush Sr winning weren't even remotely difficult predictions as they were comfortable margins of victory. Now, when we compare just a prediction of the popular vote, RCO has bene within roughly 1% point. Given the makeup of the states, Democrats need roughly 3% more to win electorally. Since Biden is behind than by more than 1 point PRIOR to his collapse, the model therefore works against Biden. So we go with either a nearly perfect system of RCP... or a guy who was right regarding barely 50% of the time in fairly close elections. We go with the former. We don't need you sulking over there just because your only refuge was a guy whose barely half right. I know you wanted a first victory in our debates but sadly that won't be occurring today or for the foreseeable future. 2000 election stolen?.... ROFL And you guys still get unto the few who said 2020 was questionable. Lol, I think you are starting to believe your bullshit.
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Post by averagejoe2021 on Jun 29, 2024 2:17:39 GMT
Nope... I ever gave the links to show he was wrong in both situations. He bases his win upon the popular vote...NOT electoral. To this end, he was wrong twice. Most of the others such as Reagan and Bush Sr winning weren't even remotely difficult predictions as they were comfortable margins of victory. Now, when we compare just a prediction of the popular vote, RCO has bene within roughly 1% point. Given the makeup of the states, Democrats need roughly 3% more to win electorally. Since Biden is behind than by more than 1 point PRIOR to his collapse, the model therefore works against Biden. So we go with either a nearly perfect system of RCP... or a guy who was right regarding barely 50% of the time in fairly close elections. We go with the former. We don't need you sulking over there just because your only refuge was a guy whose barely half right. I know you wanted a first victory in our debates but sadly that won't be occurring today or for the foreseeable future. 2000 election stolen?.... ROFL And you guys still get unto the few who said 2020 was questionable. Lol, I think you are starting to believe your bullshit. I knew you were lying at this point but what else is new?
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Post by Boricanator on Jun 29, 2024 2:19:36 GMT
Lol, I think you are starting to believe your bullshit. I knew you were lying at this point but what else is new? Nothing new, just me kicking your ass. You being a Republican obviously makes you stupid. That’s why you always have to lie. You can’t win with the truth like I do.
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Post by averagejoe2021 on Jun 29, 2024 2:29:37 GMT
I knew you were lying at this point but what else is new? Nothing new, just me kicking your ass. You being a Republican obviously makes you stupid. That’s why you always have to lie. You can’t win with the truth like I do. So, you're lying is nothing new? Figures since you were caught lying/losing on the "Biden prosperity" that makes even other lefties cringe, the court cases, the election models, regarding when you were disproven when shown the lowest educated groups support the Democrats overwhelmingly or winning (lol) any debates here. But hey, you get points for consistency. But let's build on that honesty. If you begin with that accountability, before you know it, you might evolve into a better person ie a conservative.
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Post by Boricanator on Jun 29, 2024 2:33:31 GMT
Nothing new, just me kicking your ass. You being a Republican obviously makes you stupid. That’s why you always have to lie. You can’t win with the truth like I do. So, you're lying is nothing new? Figures since you were caught lying/losing on the "Biden prosperity" that makes even other lefties cringe, the court cases, the election models, regarding when you were disproven when shown the lowest educated groups support the Democrats overwhelmingly or winning (lol) any debates here. But hey, you get points for consistency. But let's build on that honesty. If you begin with that accountability, before you know it, you might evolve into a better person ie a conservative. The Biden Prosperity is real, the court cases are legit, Democrats are smarter than Republicans and I win all my debates here. You are just jealous and hate being wrong all the time.
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Post by averagejoe2021 on Jun 29, 2024 2:39:12 GMT
So, you're lying is nothing new? Figures since you were caught lying/losing on the "Biden prosperity" that makes even other lefties cringe, the court cases, the election models, regarding when you were disproven when shown the lowest educated groups support the Democrats overwhelmingly or winning (lol) any debates here. But hey, you get points for consistency. But let's build on that honesty. If you begin with that accountability, before you know it, you might evolve into a better person ie a conservative. The Biden Prosperity is real, the court cases are legit, Democrats are smarter than Republicans and I win all my debates here. You are just jealous and hate being wrong all the time. "The Biden Prosperity is real" "the court cases are legit" Well, Trump is still on the ballot so apparently not. "Democrats are smarter than Republicans......." Which is refuted by the fact the lowest IQ and test scored group is the most loyal to Democrats. "and I win all my debates here." ![[laugh]](http://storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/kPFtBpkwzwpFTaSmbFWI.gif) "You are just jealous and hate being wrong all the time." It's rare and I learn from it. Conversely you get bitch-slapped on the regular and still embrace narratives even your fellow lefties cringe from secondhand embarassment. : )
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Post by peachy on Jun 29, 2024 15:44:42 GMT
If it's not, it will just show the extent the DNC is will to stoop by having what should be a dementia patient in the WH. It will be interesting to see how they prop him up for another four years. I think the plan is to have him resign after re-elected so Kamala can take over. She's not even popular with blacks. But she's known for sneaking in the back way for her positions (NPI).
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