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Post by MyAchingAckbarRaddus on Mar 8, 2024 2:00:40 GMT
The sequel trilogy ruined the concept of a Force user training to get/be better. Evidence…
In TFA Kylo has already been trained by Luke and Snoke. Rey has received no training in the Force. Kylo loses to her in a force mind read battle. Then loses to her in a lightsaber battle.
In TLJ Kylo is continuing to be trained by Snoke. Rey receives a scant lesson or two in the Force from Luke. Kylo is not able to have any effect on Rey in a force “Skype” argument. And Rey is a the superior duelist when she and Kylo battle and kill Snoke’s bodyguards. Yoda makes a cameo appearance to tell Luke that Rey doesn’t need any training.
In TROS Rey is being rigorously trained in the force by Leia in the opening of the movie. There is no evidence that Kylo has training in the offscreen time since TLJ. Rey loses her lightsaber duel with Kylo.
Conclusion: The training force users committed themselves to for thousands of generations actually makes them worse, weaker force users. It makes them lose. Those poor misguided dummies in the other 2 trilogies.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 21, 2024 18:36:54 GMT
The sequel trilogy ruined the concept of a Force user training to get/be better. Evidence… In TFA Kylo has already been trained by Luke and Snoke. Rey has received no training in the Force. Kylo loses to her in a force mind read battle. Then loses to her in a lightsaber battle. In TLJ Kylo is continuing to be trained by Snoke. Rey receives a scant lesson or two in the Force from Luke. Kylo is not able to have any effect on Rey in a force “Skype” argument. And Rey is a the superior duelist when she and Kylo battle and kill Snoke’s bodyguards. Yoda makes a cameo appearance to tell Luke that Rey doesn’t need any training. In TROS Rey is being rigorously trained in the force by Leia in the opening of the movie. There is no evidence that Kylo has training in the offscreen time since TLJ. Rey loses her lightsaber duel with Kylo. Conclusion: The training force users committed themselves to for thousands of generations actually makes them worse, weaker force users. It makes them lose. Those poor misguided dummies in the other 2 trilogies. This
was the extent of Luke's training, yet he pulled off this:
This is stupid. We didn't see Ren train, therefore he didn't? This is how children explain things. You don't have to see things to know it happened.
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Post by MyAchingAckbarRaddus on Mar 23, 2024 7:20:08 GMT
The sequel trilogy ruined the concept of a Force user training to get/be better. Evidence… In TFA Kylo has already been trained by Luke and Snoke. Rey has received no training in the Force. Kylo loses to her in a force mind read battle. Then loses to her in a lightsaber battle. In TLJ Kylo is continuing to be trained by Snoke. Rey receives a scant lesson or two in the Force from Luke. Kylo is not able to have any effect on Rey in a force “Skype” argument. And Rey is a the superior duelist when she and Kylo battle and kill Snoke’s bodyguards. Yoda makes a cameo appearance to tell Luke that Rey doesn’t need any training. In TROS Rey is being rigorously trained in the force by Leia in the opening of the movie. There is no evidence that Kylo has training in the offscreen time since TLJ. Rey loses her lightsaber duel with Kylo. Conclusion: The training force users committed themselves to for thousands of generations actually makes them worse, weaker force users. It makes them lose. Those poor misguided dummies in the other 2 trilogies. This
was the extent of Luke's training, yet he pulled off this:
This is stupid. We didn't see Ren train, therefore he didn't? This is how children explain things. You don't have to see things to know it happened.
Who was Kylo being trained by? Snoke was dead. If you want to take the position that, hey, maybe he was training himself. That plays into a narrative that training yourself makes you superior than being trained by a master. If you look back on every contest between Rey and Kylo, the one who seems to have trained themselves (if trained at all) is the one defeating the one who has been trained by a master or masters. That’s still a different message and concept on training. |
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 24, 2024 13:29:45 GMT
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was the extent of Luke's training, yet he pulled off this:
This is stupid. We didn't see Ren train, therefore he didn't? This is how children explain things. You don't have to see things to know it happened.
Who was Kylo being trained by? Snoke was dead. If you want to take the position that, hey, maybe he was training himself. That plays into a narrative that training yourself makes you superior than being trained by a master. If you look back on every contest between Rey and Kylo, the one who seems to have trained themselves (if trained at all) is the one defeating the one who has been trained by a master or masters. That’s still a different message and concept on training. He wasn't training (after Snoke died), he was too busy fighting in a war. That's why you train - to put those skills into action. He was trained by Luke and later Snoke (for years). You see him putting his training into action, but because you still don't actually see the training, you think his skills should diminish. This is childish and moronic.
It's the third fucking movie in a trilogy, what do you need a training montage for?
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Post by hauntedknight87 on Mar 27, 2024 12:23:23 GMT
Honestly i just assume that Kylo Ren is a Gary Stu like the rest of the male Star Wars cast.
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