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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Mar 25, 2024 2:55:32 GMT
....Steven Spielberg's Munich did...
Even Paul Haggis, Crash writer director, has apparently commented it didn't deserve to win.
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Post by uncreative on Mar 25, 2024 4:46:37 GMT
I'm not convinced anything even deserved it. I had to look back and see what came out that year. It's a shit list. The only thing that jumped out as something I really enjoyed was Wedding Crashers.
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Post by JHA Durant on Mar 25, 2024 6:58:06 GMT
Yeah, Crash was pretty bad, and Brokeback Mountain wasn't that great either. I had to watch Munich a couple of times before I liked it though.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Mar 25, 2024 9:45:24 GMT
Yeah, Crash was pretty bad, and Brokeback Mountain wasn't that great either. I had to watch Munich a couple of times before I liked it though. None of these films are that likeable, strong thematic message movies aren’t designed for popcorn entertainment. The delivery of Munich though was exceptional.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Mar 25, 2024 9:47:25 GMT
I'm not convinced anything even deserved it. I had to look back and see what came out that year. It's a shit list. The only thing that jumped out as something I really enjoyed was Wedding Crashers. Films like Wedding Crashers aren’t designed to win prestige picture awards, they are solely for pure entertainment. They may get recognised for performances and sometimes writing though.
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Post by politicidal1 on Mar 26, 2024 1:46:42 GMT
Didn't see either Crash or Brokeback Mountain. Can't I was a big fan of Munich. Though perhaps I should rewatch it.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Mar 26, 2024 7:07:50 GMT
Didn't see either Crash or Brokeback Mountain. Can't I was a big fan of Munich. Though perhaps I should rewatch it. I’ve only seen Munich once in its entirety. It is superb film-making, yet one does have to be in the mood to sit through it. If you didn’t care for it much, I’d say you likely wouldn’t care much for BM or Crash.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Mar 26, 2024 8:05:28 GMT
I'm not convinced anything even deserved it. I had to look back and see what came out that year. It's a shit list. The only thing that jumped out as something I really enjoyed was Wedding Crashers. It’s all subjective and done by popular vote among the Academy membership, but the OP’s kind take this shit personally. It deeply offends them if their choice for best picture isn’t chosen. They see it as Woke conspiracy to disappoint them.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Mar 26, 2024 11:29:18 GMT
I liked Crash, found Brokeback uninteresting and disliked Munich.
People, eh!
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Mar 27, 2024 9:13:19 GMT
I'm not convinced anything even deserved it. I had to look back and see what came out that year. It's a shit list. The only thing that jumped out as something I really enjoyed was Wedding Crashers. It’s all subjective and done by popular vote among the Academy membership, but the OP’s kind take this shit personally. It deeply offends them if their choice for best picture isn’t chosen. They see it as Woke conspiracy to disappoint them. So it wasn't a "woke" conspiracy that an average sledgehammering movie like Crash won best picture? You are one confused phony progressive and that is why you would endorse Crash winning, because you can virtue signal yourself about how un-rascist you are. Even Haggis said he didn't deserve to win.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Mar 27, 2024 9:23:21 GMT
I liked Crash, found Brokeback uninteresting and disliked Munich. People, eh! Crash was too easy and patronizing, I found Brokeback Mountain too dull and while beautifully filmed, it was pedestrian. A gay themed movie made by virtue signaling straight people, for straight people. Munich wasn't a film that was meant to be liked as a story. It was a dark and uneasy depiction of a theme that was controversial and unsettling, yet was masterfully rendered. The film had sublime qualities to it that I found both Crash and BM missed the boat on. That is not surprising, considering it was directed by Spielberg. There had to be reasons that you disliked it and that is understandable, yet if it was because you may have found it disturbing or even challenging, then it has done its job. I believe it is one of Spielberg's best films and he didn't make biased judgement in the delivery that I recall.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Mar 27, 2024 13:15:28 GMT
I liked Crash, found Brokeback uninteresting and disliked Munich. People, eh! Crash was too easy and patronizing, I found Brokeback Mountain too dull and while beautifully filmed, it was pedestrian. A gay themed movie made by virtue signaling straight people, for straight people. Munich wasn't a film that was meant to be liked as a story. It was a dark and uneasy depiction of a theme that was controversial and unsettling, yet was masterfully rendered. The film had sublime qualities to it that I found both Crash and BM missed the boat on. That is not surprising, considering it was directed by Spielberg. There had to be reasons that you disliked it and that is understandable, yet if it was because you may have found it disturbing or even challenging, then it has done its job. I believe it is one of Spielberg's best films and he didn't make biased judgement in the delivery that I recall. "Virtue signaling:" one among a list of catchy, dismissive terms employed on the right to avoid confronting issues that make them uncomfortable. In this case, it suggests insincerity on the part of white or straight people with sympathetic stories to tell about those who aren't, thus shifting focus away from larger topics of racism and homophobia. Unable to articulate any cogent reasons for objecting to such stories? Conveniently dismiss them as "virtue signaling," and you're off the hook. From more recent ones like "woke culture" and "CRT" to dusty old classics like "political correctness" and "bleeding heart," they all serve the same purpose.
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Post by Stammerhead on Mar 27, 2024 13:33:34 GMT
Haven’t seen Crash but liked both Brokeback Mountain and Munich.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Mar 27, 2024 13:53:54 GMT
Crash was too easy and patronizing, I found Brokeback Mountain too dull and while beautifully filmed, it was pedestrian. A gay themed movie made by virtue signaling straight people, for straight people. Munich wasn't a film that was meant to be liked as a story. It was a dark and uneasy depiction of a theme that was controversial and unsettling, yet was masterfully rendered. The film had sublime qualities to it that I found both Crash and BM missed the boat on. That is not surprising, considering it was directed by Spielberg. There had to be reasons that you disliked it and that is understandable, yet if it was because you may have found it disturbing or even challenging, then it has done its job. I believe it is one of Spielberg's best films and he didn't make biased judgement in the delivery that I recall. "Virtue signaling:" one among a list of catchy, dismissive terms employed on the right to avoid confronting issues that make them uncomfortable. In this case, it suggests insincerity on the part of white or straight people with sympathetic stories to tell about those who aren't, thus shifting focus away from larger topics of racism and homophobia. Unable to articulate any cogent reasons for objecting to such stories? Conveniently dismiss them as "virtue signaling," and you're off the hook. From more recent ones like "woke culture" and "CRT" to dusty old classics like "political correctness" and "bleeding heart," they all serve the same purpose. As does the left calling everything racist, so everyone's as bad as each other!
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Mar 27, 2024 14:10:28 GMT
Crash was too easy and patronizing, I found Brokeback Mountain too dull and while beautifully filmed, it was pedestrian. A gay themed movie made by virtue signaling straight people, for straight people. Munich wasn't a film that was meant to be liked as a story. It was a dark and uneasy depiction of a theme that was controversial and unsettling, yet was masterfully rendered. The film had sublime qualities to it that I found both Crash and BM missed the boat on. That is not surprising, considering it was directed by Spielberg. There had to be reasons that you disliked it and that is understandable, yet if it was because you may have found it disturbing or even challenging, then it has done its job. I believe it is one of Spielberg's best films and he didn't make biased judgement in the delivery that I recall. "Virtue signaling:" one among a list of catchy, dismissive terms employed on the right to avoid confronting issues that make them uncomfortable. In this case, it suggests insincerity on the part of white or straight people with sympathetic stories to tell about those who aren't, thus shifting focus away from larger topics of racism and homophobia. Unable to articulate any cogent reasons for objecting to such stories? Conveniently dismiss them as "virtue signaling," and you're off the hook. From more recent ones like "woke culture" and "CRT" to dusty old classics like "political correctness" and "bleeding heart," they all serve the same purpose. Way to miss context. You sound triggered petal! Why would I find BM confronting and uncomfortable? BM was too easy and too careful to not offend, it was as dreary as watching the grass grow. It also lacked passion. Who gives a rats about moody, grey boring Ennis and his man squeeze Jack on the side? Jack should’ve gave him up in the first 30mins, so we wouldn’t have to sit through torture for another 90mins. There is a slew of superior gay themed films out there that are less self-important and way more enjoyable. I hate to rain on your parade, but Hollywoke is a phony virtue signalling institute, that is committed to serving its own hypocrisy and bullshit.
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