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Post by Doghouse6 on Mar 27, 2024 16:13:16 GMT
"Virtue signaling:" one among a list of catchy, dismissive terms employed on the right to avoid confronting issues that make them uncomfortable. In this case, it suggests insincerity on the part of white or straight people with sympathetic stories to tell about those who aren't, thus shifting focus away from larger topics of racism and homophobia. Unable to articulate any cogent reasons for objecting to such stories? Conveniently dismiss them as "virtue signaling," and you're off the hook. From more recent ones like "woke culture" and "CRT" to dusty old classics like "political correctness" and "bleeding heart," they all serve the same purpose. Way to miss context. You sound triggered petal! Why would I find BM confronting and uncomfortable? BM was too easy and too careful to not offend, it was as dreary as watching the grass grow. It also lacked passion. Who gives a rats about moody, grey boring Ennis and his man squeeze Jack on the side? Jack should’ve gave him up in the first 30mins, so we wouldn’t have to sit through torture for another 90mins. There is a slew of superior gay themed films out there that are less self-important and way more enjoyable. I hate to rain on your parade, but Hollywoke is a phony virtue signalling institute, that is committed to serving its own hypocrisy and bullshit. I didn't like the movie either, but that wasn't my context. That's something of which you've obligingly provided a characteristic example. If there's "a slew of superior gay themed films out there," it's telling that the very next sentence contradictorily dismisses them - along with the industry as a whole - as "a phony virtue signalling [sic] institute, that is committed to serving its own hypocrisy and bullshit." Hmmm; talk about "triggered." I'm afraid that tips your hand, and is a quite helpful illustration of my remarks, by which I stand.
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Post by mikef6 on Mar 27, 2024 22:26:48 GMT
"Virtue signaling:" one among a list of catchy, dismissive terms employed on the right to avoid confronting issues that make them uncomfortable. In this case, it suggests insincerity on the part of white or straight people with sympathetic stories to tell about those who aren't, thus shifting focus away from larger topics of racism and homophobia. Unable to articulate any cogent reasons for objecting to such stories? Conveniently dismiss them as "virtue signaling," and you're off the hook.From more recent ones like "woke culture" and "CRT" to dusty old classics like "political correctness" and "bleeding heart," they all serve the same purpose. How right you are! But you forgot "SJW" and "Well, what about.." I have always considered "woke" to be a more up-to-date retooling of "political correctness" and "grooming" to be a return of "the homosexual agenda" to "recruit" young people into gayness. Conservatism is good at this sort of thing. Gotta give 'em credit.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Mar 28, 2024 8:11:35 GMT
"Virtue signaling:" one among a list of catchy, dismissive terms employed on the right to avoid confronting issues that make them uncomfortable. In this case, it suggests insincerity on the part of white or straight people with sympathetic stories to tell about those who aren't, thus shifting focus away from larger topics of racism and homophobia. Unable to articulate any cogent reasons for objecting to such stories? Conveniently dismiss them as "virtue signaling," and you're off the hook. From more recent ones like "woke culture" and "CRT" to dusty old classics like "political correctness" and "bleeding heart," they all serve the same purpose. As does the left calling everything racist, so everyone's as bad as each other! Aware that you're a man with a sense of humor, I'm taking this as good-natured, ironic snark.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Mar 28, 2024 9:56:55 GMT
As does the left calling everything racist, so everyone's as bad as each other! Aware that you're a man with a sense of humor, I'm taking this as good-natured, ironic snark. True, though.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Mar 28, 2024 13:09:28 GMT
Aware that you're a man with a sense of humor, I'm taking this as good-natured, ironic snark. True, though. "Everything?" Really? You're also no dummy, and I give you credit for realizing as well as I that it's, at best, wild exaggeration and generalization in the extreme. It's certainly true there's no shyness on the left about calling it out, and the right doesn't like that. Perhaps it can seem more pervasive than it is because of the constant stream of examples of racist expression. Of course, there's a simple remedy for anyone objecting to the label: stop saying and doing things that make them sound and look that way.
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Post by marianne48 on Mar 28, 2024 21:49:58 GMT
Most Best Picture winners don't deserve it.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Mar 28, 2024 22:44:31 GMT
Way to miss context. You sound triggered petal! Why would I find BM confronting and uncomfortable? BM was too easy and too careful to not offend, it was as dreary as watching the grass grow. It also lacked passion. Who gives a rats about moody, grey boring Ennis and his man squeeze Jack on the side? Jack should’ve gave him up in the first 30mins, so we wouldn’t have to sit through torture for another 90mins. There is a slew of superior gay themed films out there that are less self-important and way more enjoyable. I hate to rain on your parade, but Hollywoke is a phony virtue signalling institute, that is committed to serving its own hypocrisy and bullshit. I didn't like the movie either, but that wasn't my context. That's something of which you've obligingly provided a characteristic example. If there's "a slew of superior gay themed films out there," it's telling that the very next sentence contradictorily dismisses them - along with the industry as a whole - as "a phony virtue signalling [sic] institute, that is committed to serving its own hypocrisy and bullshit." Hmmm; talk about "triggered." I'm afraid that tips your hand, and is a quite helpful illustration of my remarks, by which I stand. You’re not standing for anything salient or lucid. Hollywood doesn’t produce every movie ever made. Your context is wrongheaded and distorted. Now, what was your point again?
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Mar 28, 2024 23:12:00 GMT
"Virtue signaling:" one among a list of catchy, dismissive terms employed on the right to avoid confronting issues that make them uncomfortable. In this case, it suggests insincerity on the part of white or straight people with sympathetic stories to tell about those who aren't, thus shifting focus away from larger topics of racism and homophobia. Unable to articulate any cogent reasons for objecting to such stories? Conveniently dismiss them as "virtue signaling," and you're off the hook.From more recent ones like "woke culture" and "CRT" to dusty old classics like "political correctness" and "bleeding heart," they all serve the same purpose. How right you are! But you forgot "SJW" and "Well, what about.." I have always considered "woke" to be a more up-to-date retooling of "political correctness" and "grooming" to be a return of "the homosexual agenda" to "recruit" young people into gayness. Conservatism is good at this sort of thing. Gotta give 'em credit. They are buzz terms for sure, but it is also expression used to call out the intentions of what was on the agenda. If it’s not”woke” or faux virtuous, what is it? Was Munich virtue signalling “wokeness”, compared to Crash and BM and whatever political agendas may have been behind these 3 films mentioned? While on the surface “Munich” may have a political theme, it’s layers run much deeper than conveying glib pummelling messages, especially Crash.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Mar 29, 2024 1:18:46 GMT
I didn't like the movie either, but that wasn't my context. That's something of which you've obligingly provided a characteristic example. If there's "a slew of superior gay themed films out there," it's telling that the very next sentence contradictorily dismisses them - along with the industry as a whole - as "a phony virtue signalling [sic] institute, that is committed to serving its own hypocrisy and bullshit." Hmmm; talk about "triggered." I'm afraid that tips your hand, and is a quite helpful illustration of my remarks, by which I stand. You’re not standing for anything salient or lucid. Hollywood doesn’t produce every movie ever made. Your context is wrongheaded and distorted. Now, what was your point again? Covering both eyes at the same time is easy enough with two hands, but typing while doing it is truly impressive. Too bad vaudeville died. You're the one who invoked Hollywood (or "Hollywoke," as you put it). Trying to move the goalposts now won't get you anywhere. Those memory lapses are nettlesome, aren't they? My point is exactly as originally stated on Page 1, about 36 hours ago as I write this. It's still there, unaltered, right where I left it.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Mar 29, 2024 1:24:58 GMT
You’re not standing for anything salient or lucid. Hollywood doesn’t produce every movie ever made. Your context is wrongheaded and distorted. Now, what was your point again? Covering both eyes at the same time is easy enough with two hands, but typing while doing it is truly impressive. Too bad vaudeville died. You're the one who invoked Hollywood (or "Hollywoke," as you put it). Trying to move the goalposts now won't get you anywhere. Those memory lapses are nettlesome, aren't they? My point is exactly as originally stated on Page 1, about 36 hours ago as I write this. It's still there, unaltered, right where I left it. So in other words, you don’t have a point, except to take umbrage at being considered woke and virtue signalling. The films mentioned, were Hollywood backed. Got it yet?
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Post by Doghouse6 on Mar 29, 2024 12:24:23 GMT
Covering both eyes at the same time is easy enough with two hands, but typing while doing it is truly impressive. Too bad vaudeville died. You're the one who invoked Hollywood (or "Hollywoke," as you put it). Trying to move the goalposts now won't get you anywhere. Those memory lapses are nettlesome, aren't they? My point is exactly as originally stated on Page 1, about 36 hours ago as I write this. It's still there, unaltered, right where I left it. So in other words, you don’t have a point, except to take umbrage at being considered woke and virtue signalling. The films mentioned, were Hollywood backed. Got it yet? As Mazurkas go, it wasn't the most elegant I've seen, but it was suitably head-spinning. I've spoken my piece clearly enough; engage it, waste time bobbing and weaving or ignore it as you please. Suit yourself. Ain't life grand?
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Mar 29, 2024 13:52:18 GMT
So in other words, you don’t have a point, except to take umbrage at being considered woke and virtue signalling. The films mentioned, were Hollywood backed. Got it yet? As Mazurkas go, it wasn't the most elegant I've seen, but it was suitably head-spinning. I've spoken my piece clearly enough; engage it, waste time bobbing and weaving or ignore it as you please. Suit yourself. Ain't life grand? Aren’t you a dude married to another dude?
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Post by Doghouse6 on Mar 29, 2024 20:29:33 GMT
As Mazurkas go, it wasn't the most elegant I've seen, but it was suitably head-spinning. I've spoken my piece clearly enough; engage it, waste time bobbing and weaving or ignore it as you please. Suit yourself. Ain't life grand? Aren’t you a dude married to another dude? Ah, the memory kicked back in! I can't help but be flattered by your interest. Yes, I was. He died 14 months, 23 days, 16 hours and 51 minutes ago.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Mar 29, 2024 20:40:04 GMT
"Everything?" Really? You're also no dummy, and I give you credit for realizing as well as I that it's, at best, wild exaggeration and generalization in the extreme. It's certainly true there's no shyness on the left about calling it out, and the right doesn't like that. Perhaps it can seem more pervasive than it is because of the constant stream of examples of racist expression. Of course, there's a simple remedy for anyone objecting to the label: stop saying and doing things that make them sound and look that way. Obviously not "everything" but, please, can we get past the "everything must literally mean everything" rebuttal? It just means a lot. But thank you for your considered opinion, Dickhouse.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Mar 29, 2024 21:21:58 GMT
"Everything?" Really? You're also no dummy, and I give you credit for realizing as well as I that it's, at best, wild exaggeration and generalization in the extreme. It's certainly true there's no shyness on the left about calling it out, and the right doesn't like that. Perhaps it can seem more pervasive than it is because of the constant stream of examples of racist expression. Of course, there's a simple remedy for anyone objecting to the label: stop saying and doing things that make them sound and look that way. Obviously not "everything" but, please, can we get past the "everything must literally mean everything" rebuttal? It just means a lot. But thank you for your considered opinion, Dickhouse. And thanks for your, uh...hmmm...well, thanks for it anyway.
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