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Post by hugsfromlv426 on Apr 13, 2024 19:43:39 GMT
What was your math score again?
600.
[sad2]
my parents were very kind not to disown me.
I only got a 600 on English.
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Post by thekindercarebear (C/F/M) on Apr 13, 2024 19:44:19 GMT
600.
[sad2]
my parents were very kind not to disown me.
I only got a 600 on English.
your parents were very kind not to disown you. :D
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Post by thekindercarebear (C/F/M) on Apr 13, 2024 20:39:48 GMT
anytime i want to discuss the educational system in america some asshat will post a reply and imply it is purely for racist reasons and PaulsLaugh will hop in and give that a like?
well fuck you guys.
YOU PEOPLE are the reason our educational system is a complete clusterfuck.
you guys and gals have neither the balls, the backbone, or the intelligence to understand the long term ramifications of the continued failings of our public school system.
crying racism and lowering standards is not going to do shit for anyone.
you cowards.
that was my intent, even when posting angry i try to be tongue in cheek. :)
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Post by thekindercarebear (C/F/M) on Apr 13, 2024 20:41:16 GMT
Who were your teachers? They must be flogged. I couldn't help but notice it myself. And he's ranting about eduction.
you two worry about my "nor" but kindly look over my inability to properly use capitalization?
you are both so nice. :)
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Post by thekindercarebear (C/F/M) on Apr 13, 2024 20:42:22 GMT
that's the left on every issue clown car of tribalists and trolls play the racist card, attack the source for literally no reason (when it's an easily verifiable story), deflect to trump, nonstop personal attacks without attempting to make any point. that's their bag.
i like how you do not use caps!
have a cookie!
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Post by thekindercarebear (C/F/M) on Apr 13, 2024 20:48:40 GMT
I've flipped many a C/D student to A/B by just going over their completed homework before they leave my after school program at 5pm. Of Course at 4pm we have Afternoon Tea called that from a kid who was reading the Hobbit for me. Hot or Cold Drink, sandwich and crisps/chips. They went through an anglophile streak when The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings got popular with the groups around 10 years ago. Which is around the time the first Hobbit came out. So my kids can be sure that at least 5 days a week they'll have 3 meals a day. During the summer that drops to 3 as I can only keep it open 3 days a week. These kids were never really c/d students they were just underappreciated a/b students. I have a lot of failures in my roughly 20 years of doing this, but I have a shit ton of successes. I get kids into college, community college, tech programs, mentorships, trade school, or just employment. And taking a little from AA I get them to come back to volunteer and help out after they graduate high school usually during summer. Some during School year if they are going local and I know people at their Schools. (Which I know a lot) I admire all that you do for kids. It seems like something you are really passionate about
he is really is a kind soul.
IF anyone really wanted to attack me properly - they can merely ask
"well bear, what the fuck have you done for the under-achieving kids?"
and i will say: "nothing i chould stand tall and prop my hat on."
i AM a selfish bastard and at least i acknowledge that.
BUT just because I am a selfish bastard does that preclude me from worrying about the state of our American educational system?
i don't think so.
but let me get my 5 year plan out of the way and i'll try my best to donate some of my ill gotten gains to those in need.
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Post by dlancer on Apr 13, 2024 21:14:46 GMT
It might not be the lefties changing testing to allow lesser intelligent people get higher grades?
Since when?
take out the lefties part and just read what is bolded.
does that practice not bother you at all?
because THAT is what leads to 80%+ of black American 8th graders to be functionally illiterate.
you think on that as you sit on your high horse and pass judgement upon me.
If it's the main problem, you fix it by going to the source, no?
If it's not the main problem, and the main problem is something else, then focusing on the lesser thing resembles cherry-picking to fulfill a narrative.
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Post by thekindercarebear (C/F/M) on Apr 13, 2024 21:22:35 GMT
take out the lefties part and just read what is bolded.
does that practice not bother you at all?
because THAT is what leads to 80%+ of black American 8th graders to be functionally illiterate.
you think on that as you sit on your high horse and pass judgement upon me.
If it's the main problem, you fix it by going to the source, no?
If it's not the main problem, and the main problem is something else, then focusing on the lesser thing resembles cherry-picking to fulfill a narrative.
that's my point, no one wants to talk about the source.
because to do so leaves one open to calls of racism or elitism or whatever the term du jour might be.
and we cannot REALLY keep throwing money at the issue.
the U.S. spends more than other countries:
so then if it isn't money - what does that leave?
parents? racist.
culture? racist.
time management? racist!
so then that leaves
the school systems
teachers
and
more racism.
so you tell me how can we do anything BUT talk around the source?
and while we dance around the source - 80%+ of black American students remain functionally illiterate.
and i am not going to blame the kids.
you have 5-10% of the kids doing poorly, hey i can get on board and say "those darn rascals!"
you have 80-85%?? who can't read? i FEEL there is no way statistically speaking that it is the fault of the kids.
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Post by dlancer on Apr 13, 2024 21:30:58 GMT
If it's the main problem, you fix it by going to the source, no?
If it's not the main problem, and the main problem is something else, then focusing on the lesser thing resembles cherry-picking to fulfill a narrative.
that's my point, no one wants to talk about the source.
because to do so leaves one open to calls of racism or elitism or whatever the term du jour might be.
and we cannot REALLY keep throwing money at the issue.
the U.S. spends more than other countries:
so then if it isn't money - what does that leave?
parents? racist.
culture? racist.
time management? racist!
so then that leaves
the school systems
teachers
and
more racism.
so you tell me how can we do anything BUT talk around the source?
and while we dance around the source - 80%+ of black American students remain functionally illiterate.
Your narrative is kids are dumber than before because of a racial element that lowers testing standards.
You don't know for sure that that racial element is the root cause, and it's been pointed out it isn't the cause in red states which have the lowest scores.
But yet you continue to hammer the point home that we must discuss the racial element that lowers testing standards no matter how racist it may sound.
It just sounds to me like you're stuck on that idea, which is what's causing people to be suspect of your intentions.
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Post by thekindercarebear (C/F/M) on Apr 13, 2024 21:38:30 GMT
that's my point, no one wants to talk about the source.
because to do so leaves one open to calls of racism or elitism or whatever the term du jour might be.
and we cannot REALLY keep throwing money at the issue.
the U.S. spends more than other countries:
so then if it isn't money - what does that leave?
parents? racist.
culture? racist.
time management? racist!
so then that leaves
the school systems
teachers
and
more racism.
so you tell me how can we do anything BUT talk around the source?
and while we dance around the source - 80%+ of black American students remain functionally illiterate.
Your narrative is kids are dumber than before because of a racial element that lowers testing standards.
You don't know for sure that that racial element is the root cause, and it's been pointed out it isn't the cause in red states which have the lowest scores.
But yet you continue to hammer the point home that we must discuss the racial element that lowers testing standards no matter how racist it may sound.
It just sounds to me like you're stuck on that idea, which is what's causing people to be suspect of your intentions.
but that is what they are doing!
how can you deny this?
no zeroes?
no F's?
getting rid of AP classes?
we dumb down the words we use with students.
we've made the SATs EASIER and they still fail.
are you and I even on the same page here or are we not seeing the same things?
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Post by thekindercarebear (C/F/M) on Apr 13, 2024 21:40:13 GMT
heh i keep scrolling through the jpeg of that cookie and damn if i don't want a chocolate chip cookie. :)
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Post by Vassaggo on Apr 13, 2024 21:50:27 GMT
heh i keep scrolling through the jpeg of that cookie and damn if i don't want a chocolate chip cookie. :) As your pre-diabetes can't physically talk to you, I say nay good sir no Cookie for you. Unless you eat 3 things High in Soluble Fiber, give me a mile of good walking pace and make you wife call you Vassaggo one time during noodge!
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Post by thekindercarebear (C/F/M) on Apr 13, 2024 21:51:53 GMT
heh i keep scrolling through the jpeg of that cookie and damn if i don't want a chocolate chip cookie. :) As your pre-diabetes can't physically talk to you, I say nay good sir no Cookie for you. Unless you eat 3 things High in Soluble Fiber, give me a mile of good walking pace and make you wife call you Vassaggo one time during noodge!
i was down to 112 his morning.
still i don't like the 120s and 130s first thing in the AM. =/
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Post by blacktothefuture on Apr 13, 2024 21:57:54 GMT
you guys and gals have neither the balls, the backbone, or the intelligence to understand the long term ramifications of the continued failings of our public school system. What exactly are the long term ramifications. The broken education system narrative has been repeated for over 50 years now.
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Post by dlancer on Apr 13, 2024 22:03:32 GMT
Your narrative is kids are dumber than before because of a racial element that lowers testing standards.
You don't know for sure that that racial element is the root cause, and it's been pointed out it isn't the cause in red states which have the lowest scores.
But yet you continue to hammer the point home that we must discuss the racial element that lowers testing standards no matter how racist it may sound.
It just sounds to me like you're stuck on that idea, which is what's causing people to be suspect of your intentions.
but that is what they are doing!
how can you deny this?
no zeroes?
no F's?
getting rid of AP classes?
we dumb down the words we use with students.
we've made the SATs EASIER and they still fail.
are you and I even on the same page here or are we not seeing the same things?
I'm certainly not seeing it to the degree that you are, at least not for the middle class.
For the poverty-stricken red towns, and poverty-stricken inner cities, sure.
But I'm one of those idiots who believe it's a money issue.
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