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Post by mikemonger on Apr 20, 2024 19:11:33 GMT
The US, they would be the Russians. The US is practically Stalinist. Ah. You have absolutely no idea what Stalinism is and just like to use charged words.
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Post by Isapop on Apr 20, 2024 19:19:53 GMT
I guess we will soon have former Speaker Mike Johnson? I'm with Rob801 on this one. My bet is that Dems are ready to pitch in to save him (for now). And the MAGATs, knowing that, may decide not to try. They don't want to make themselves look weak with a conspicuous defeat.
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Post by san926f on Apr 20, 2024 19:23:09 GMT
Dear old Dad used to write that on missiles he loaded for the Air Force, brah. Ho Chi Minh's love missile was another popular moniker. No shit.
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Post by ayatollah on Apr 20, 2024 20:20:05 GMT
The US, they would be the Russians. The US is practically Stalinist. Stalinist? How so? Don’t you think that’s a bit of hyperbole. We're not far from it. When the political opposition gets prosecuted your on the doorstep of purges.
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Post by ayatollah on Apr 20, 2024 20:20:38 GMT
The US, they would be the Russians. The US is practically Stalinist. Ah. You have absolutely no idea what Stalinism is and just like to use charged words. As often as "fascism" gets thrown around I feel like I'm justified.
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Post by ayatollah on Apr 20, 2024 20:21:51 GMT
I guess we will soon have former Speaker Mike Johnson? Democrats should be asking how the neocons slipped into their ranks and apparently have gotten control of a majority of their party.
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Post by mikemonger on Apr 20, 2024 20:24:31 GMT
Ah. You have absolutely no idea what Stalinism is and just like to use charged words. As often as "fascism" gets thrown around I feel like I'm justified. You can "feel justified" all you want. Doesn't change the fact you obviously have no idea whatsoever what "Stalinism" means...lol
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Post by mr_self on Apr 20, 2024 20:26:39 GMT
I guess we will soon have former Speaker Mike Johnson? I'm with Rob801 on this one. My bet is that Dems are ready to pitch in to save him (for now). And the MAGATs, knowing that, may decide not to try. They don't want to make themselves look weak with a conspicuous defeat. Do the Dems need him for anything else this year? That's pretty much all that is left of the Senate Democrats priorities this year unless something new pops up. If the Dems don't need Speaker Johnson for the rest of the year, it might benefit them to let a Leadership fight take place.
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Post by Isapop on Apr 20, 2024 20:35:51 GMT
I'm with Rob801 on this one. My bet is that Dems are ready to pitch in to save him (for now). And the MAGATs, knowing that, may decide not to try. They don't want to make themselves look weak with a conspicuous defeat. Do the Dems need him for anything else this year? That's pretty much all that is left of the Senate Democrats priorities this year unless something new pops up. If the Dems don't need Speaker Johnson for the rest of the year, it might benefit them to let a Leadership fight take place. I think Hakeem Jeffries made it clear to Johnson that he won't let MTG oust him over letting Ukraine aid come to a vote. Dems haven't made any secret of it. They should keep their word to him. (If other reasons to remove him arise later on, that's something else again.)
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Post by ayatollah on Apr 20, 2024 21:13:29 GMT
As often as "fascism" gets thrown around I feel like I'm justified. You can "feel justified" all you want. Doesn't change the fact you obviously have no idea whatsoever what "Stalinism" means...lol We can quibble all day about textbook definitions of Stalinism, have you paid any attention to the recently passed Fisa warrantless spying bill? This has been going on since 9/11 and it's getting worse all the time, the left no longer cares and even though we've gained converts on the right they're all smeared as "conspiracy theorists " and "crazy".
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Post by ayatollah on Apr 20, 2024 21:14:40 GMT
Do the Dems need him for anything else this year? That's pretty much all that is left of the Senate Democrats priorities this year unless something new pops up. If the Dems don't need Speaker Johnson for the rest of the year, it might benefit them to let a Leadership fight take place. [img alt=" " class="smile" src="http://storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/X0xvEuKqIvpjcwikdJVq.gif"] I think Hakeem Jeffries made it clear to Johnson that he won't let MTG oust him over letting Ukraine aid come to a vote. Dems haven't made any secret of it. They should keep their word to him. (If other reasons to remove him arise later on, that's something else again.) It's a shame that Democrats have sunk to this. They shouldn't have voted for another dime of Ukraine funding.
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Post by mikemonger on Apr 20, 2024 21:24:10 GMT
You can "feel justified" all you want. Doesn't change the fact you obviously have no idea whatsoever what "Stalinism" means...lol We can quibble all day about textbook definitions of Stalinism, have you paid any attention to the recently passed Fisa warrantless spying bill? This has been going on since 9/11 and it's getting worse all the time, the left no longer cares and even though we've gained converts on the right they're all smeared as "conspiracy theorists " and "crazy". Textbook definitions. Actual definitions. What does the meaning of words matter when you want to use them wildly inappropriately as part of a misguided attempt to make a histrionic point, amiright?
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Post by ayatollah on Apr 20, 2024 21:27:18 GMT
We can quibble all day about textbook definitions of Stalinism, have you paid any attention to the recently passed Fisa warrantless spying bill? This has been going on since 9/11 and it's getting worse all the time, the left no longer cares and even though we've gained converts on the right they're all smeared as "conspiracy theorists " and "crazy". Textbook definitions. Actual definitions. What does the meaning of words matter when you want to use them wildly inappropriately as part of a misguided attempt to make a histrionic point, amiright? I don't have a problem characterizing the direction we're moving as Stalinist. The important thing is we stop moving in said direction, and if you agree you can call it whatever you want. Glenn Greenwald interviewed Dennis Kucinich about it recently, I think the relevant part is about 10 minutes in.
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Post by mikemonger on Apr 20, 2024 22:02:43 GMT
Textbook definitions. Actual definitions. What does the meaning of words matter when you want to use them wildly inappropriately as part of a misguided attempt to make a histrionic point, amiright? I don't have a problem characterizing the direction we're moving as Stalinist. The important thing is we stop moving in said direction, and if you agree you can call it whatever you want. Glenn Greenwald interviewed Dennis Kucinich about it recently, I think the relevant part is about 10 minutes in. I know you don't have a problem with it. Because you don't know what Stalinism means. We just established that like 2 posts ago.
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Post by ayatollah on Apr 20, 2024 22:35:03 GMT
I don't have a problem characterizing the direction we're moving as Stalinist. The important thing is we stop moving in said direction, and if you agree you can call it whatever you want. Glenn Greenwald interviewed Dennis Kucinich about it recently, I think the relevant part is about 10 minutes in. I know you don't have a problem with it. Because you don't know what Stalinism means. We just established that like 2 posts ago. Now you're just trying to make this about me and argue over something that doesn't really matter, probably because you like warrantless spying but know you can't defend it.
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