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Post by blacktothefuture on Apr 24, 2024 0:34:41 GMT
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Post by hugsfromlv426 on Apr 24, 2024 0:37:28 GMT
The Cybertruck is its Pontiac Aztec? |
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Post by uncreative on Apr 24, 2024 0:39:34 GMT
Where's the Toyota part come into it? They don't really even make EVs. Surprisingly they're actually one of the loudest critics of EVs in general.
Hyundai would be the most likely to take over the top spot if you're not counting Chinese companies.
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Post by ShadowSouL Likes This on Apr 24, 2024 7:51:25 GMT
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 24, 2024 7:57:40 GMT
Where's the Toyota part come into it? They don't really even make EVs. Surprisingly they're actually one of the loudest critics of EVs in general. Hyundai would be the most likely to take over the top spot if you're not counting Chinese companies.
I have to say that Toyota makes about the smoothest Hybrids available. It's amazing how quiet and seamless they are. Why anyone would bother with the current EV offerings is beyond me, though.
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Post by dlancer on Apr 24, 2024 7:59:34 GMT
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Post by uncreative on Apr 24, 2024 17:31:17 GMT
Where's the Toyota part come into it? They don't really even make EVs. Surprisingly they're actually one of the loudest critics of EVs in general. Hyundai would be the most likely to take over the top spot if you're not counting Chinese companies.
I have to say that Toyota makes about the smoothest Hybrids available. It's amazing how quiet and seamless they are. Why anyone would bother with the current EV offerings is beyond me, though. Yes I know about that one. It's their only model and I've never seen a single one on the road. There's more Rivians and Cybertrucks out there than electric Toyotas and they're basically meme cars. Toyota had every opportunity to be the early leader in EVs because they had such a big head start on hybrids and they blew it. My reasoning for getting a pure EV was that I'm too lazy to do things like stop at gas stations, get oil changes, brake jobs, tune ups, or basically any other kind of routine maintenance. Just plug it in overnight in the garage a couple times a month instead. Most people in the US spend most or all their time within comfortable driving distance of a city so range anxiety really is overblown for just about anyone with the ability to get a home charger installed. |
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Post by averagejoe2021 on Apr 24, 2024 17:32:32 GMT
It's up roughly 11 1/2 % today.
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Post by Fetzer Zinfandel ♀︎ on Apr 24, 2024 17:45:54 GMT
Oh well.
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Post by Harry Skywalker on Apr 24, 2024 18:04:01 GMT
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 25, 2024 12:35:09 GMT
Yes I know about that one. It's their only model and I've never seen a single one on the road. There's more Rivians and Cybertrucks out there than electric Toyotas and they're basically meme cars. Toyota had every opportunity to be the early leader in EVs because they had such a big head start on hybrids and they blew it. My reasoning for getting a pure EV was that I'm too lazy to do things like stop at gas stations, get oil changes, brake jobs, tune ups, or basically any other kind of routine maintenance. Just plug it in overnight in the garage a couple times a month instead. Most people in the US spend most or all their time within comfortable driving distance of a city so range anxiety really is overblown for just about anyone with the ability to get a home charger installed.
I don't think they blew it at all. The marketplace isn't all that interested in going full EV as of yet, just look at Ford and others stuck with EV product on their lots.
You really think there won't be any maintenance?
That's another pain in the ass............who wants an EV that needs a costly charger? How/WHY didn't they make them like the Prius Prime with a simple adapter that plugs into your home outlets?
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Post by uncreative on Apr 25, 2024 15:39:55 GMT
Yes I know about that one. It's their only model and I've never seen a single one on the road. There's more Rivians and Cybertrucks out there than electric Toyotas and they're basically meme cars. Toyota had every opportunity to be the early leader in EVs because they had such a big head start on hybrids and they blew it. My reasoning for getting a pure EV was that I'm too lazy to do things like stop at gas stations, get oil changes, brake jobs, tune ups, or basically any other kind of routine maintenance. Just plug it in overnight in the garage a couple times a month instead. Most people in the US spend most or all their time within comfortable driving distance of a city so range anxiety really is overblown for just about anyone with the ability to get a home charger installed.
I don't think they blew it at all. The marketplace isn't all that interested in going full EV as of yet, just look at Ford and others stuck with EV product on their lots.
You really think there won't be any maintenance?
That's another pain in the ass............who wants an EV that needs a costly charger? How/WHY didn't they make them like the Prius Prime with a simple adapter that plugs into your home outlets?
They generally do have chargers that plug into your regular outlets. It's just that they're incredibly slow without a dedicated connection. Like if you plugged it in after work and disconnected in the morning you'd have about 60 miles worth of charge added. Using the connection for something like a dryer outlet is an improvement and might get you twice as much but a 60 amp circuit just for the charger can do a full charge in 4-5 hours overnight. And yes the maintenance is minimal. If something breaks, it's probably going to be really expensive. Don't pretend ICE repairs are cheap though. I had a couple Toyotas before. In general the engine and all that stuff I know nothing about ran really well with almost no issues. They also had the worst air conditioners I've ever seen. No matter how many times I got them fixed it couldn't keep up in the summer. All the diagnostics and part replacements added up to thousands of dollars. If you have a bad transmission or a belt breaks or whatever else goes wrong you're going to have an expensive bad time. In a car with less moving parts there's a lot less that can go wrong. But of course it's all sealed up and requires someone super specialized if it does. |
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Post by theBROKEdontrump on Apr 25, 2024 18:09:13 GMT
I made a ton of money off Tesla last year. I am so glad I divested and didn’t take any new positions this year.
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Post by blacktothefuture on Apr 25, 2024 18:19:56 GMT
Where's the Toyota part come into it? They don't really even make EVs. Surprisingly they're actually one of the loudest critics of EVs in general. Hyundai would be the most likely to take over the top spot if you're not counting Chinese companies. Huh? |
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Post by uncreative on Apr 25, 2024 18:41:37 GMT
Where's the Toyota part come into it? They don't really even make EVs. Surprisingly they're actually one of the loudest critics of EVs in general. Hyundai would be the most likely to take over the top spot if you're not counting Chinese companies. Huh? Exactly what it says. How can Toyota be poised to be the #1 EV seller? They have exactly one fully electric model. By all accounts is an absolute piece of shit compliance car that's just a rebadged Subaru. It's sold just over 10,000 of them in the few years it's existed. Supposedly Toyota is working on producing solid state batteries with massively increased energy density that can go 500+ miles on a charge but it's one of those things that's always got a target date of "a few years away" for years already. |
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