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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 29, 2024 14:05:50 GMT
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Post by uncreative on Apr 29, 2024 15:03:46 GMT
Surprisingly he's actually right for the most part. I just don't understand why this video looks so 90s.
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 30, 2024 4:00:11 GMT
Surprisingly he's actually right for the most part. I just don't understand why this video looks so 90s.
It could look like the 70s
The same Supply/Demand principles hold true.
So, does having 10-30 Million illegals in the US help or hinder the housing problem?
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Post by uncreative on Apr 30, 2024 14:58:25 GMT
Surprisingly he's actually right for the most part. I just don't understand why this video looks so 90s.
It could look like the 70s
The same Supply/Demand principles hold true.
So, does having 10-30 Million illegals in the US help or hinder the housing problem?
Who do you think is building those houses? And why is your range so wide? The real number is something like 12 million. There's actually more empty homes than homeless people. Just not in the right places. I say we take all the never/barely used mansions and let the homeless stay there. It has the added bonus of tanking the neighbors' property values, solving the affordability crisis once and for all. |
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Post by abbey1227 on May 1, 2024 4:03:38 GMT
Who do you think is building those houses? And why is your range so wide? The real number is something like 12 million. There's actually more empty homes than homeless people. Just not in the right places. I say we take all the never/barely used mansions and let the homeless stay there. It has the added bonus of tanking the neighbors' property values, solving the affordability crisis once and for all.
Well, then bringing in another 100 Million illegals would really help the housing problem, huh? The range is wide because THEY hung onto that lie of 11 Million for many, many years. The truth is likely closer to 30, imo
You wanna tank property values? wow In the largest cities there are already office buildings empty just waiting to be rezoned. Why not offer those to all the homeless instead? I just saw one or two in the last month that sold for 10% of their previous values.
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Post by uncreative on May 1, 2024 15:41:01 GMT
Who do you think is building those houses? And why is your range so wide? The real number is something like 12 million. There's actually more empty homes than homeless people. Just not in the right places. I say we take all the never/barely used mansions and let the homeless stay there. It has the added bonus of tanking the neighbors' property values, solving the affordability crisis once and for all.
Well, then bringing in another 100 Million illegals would really help the housing problem, huh? The range is wide because THEY hung onto that lie of 11 Million for many, many years. The truth is likely closer to 30, imo
You wanna tank property values? wow In the largest cities there are already office buildings empty just waiting to be rezoned. Why not offer those to all the homeless instead? I just saw one or two in the last month that sold for 10% of their previous values.
They deserve to tank. My house is over $1,000,000 and it's just a standard issue 1960's POS on a small lot. It was still overpriced years ago when we bought it for $600,000 while interest rates were lower. A stupid property value does nothing for me except act as pair of golden handcuffs. Even a 30% crash would just bring things down to a very expensive but semi-affordable for DINKs level. Office space conversions aren't the easy fix you think they are. It's something that needs to happen but it'll take a long time. They layouts and utilities and everything else would need to be completely rearranged to the point where it's usually cheaper to just demolish the building the start over. Meanwhile my city was looking into the option of doing exactly what you just mentioned. Leasing and turning an abandoned warehouse into a 1,000 bed shelter. For some reason the 30 year cost estimate comes out to over $1 billion which seems at least twice as high as it should be since the property was only worth about $10 million. |
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Post by hugsfromlv426 on May 1, 2024 15:43:52 GMT
It could look like the 70s
The same Supply/Demand principles hold true.
So, does having 10-30 Million illegals in the US help or hinder the housing problem?
Who do you think is building those houses? And why is your range so wide? The real number is something like 12 million. There's actually more empty homes than homeless people. Just not in the right places. I say we take all the never/barely used mansions and let the homeless stay there. It has the added bonus of tanking the neighbors' property values, solving the affordability crisis once and for all. So confiscate private property and give it to whomever you think deserves it? And you do understand that tanking property values also tanks property tax revenues, which pay for schools, fire department, police, etc., right? |
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Post by uncreative on May 1, 2024 15:57:50 GMT
Who do you think is building those houses? And why is your range so wide? The real number is something like 12 million. There's actually more empty homes than homeless people. Just not in the right places. I say we take all the never/barely used mansions and let the homeless stay there. It has the added bonus of tanking the neighbors' property values, solving the affordability crisis once and for all. So confiscate private property and give it to whomever you think deserves it? And you do understand that tanking property values also tanks property tax revenues, which pay for schools, fire department, police, etc., right? It was partially a joke but I do think homes that aren't being lived in should be taxed at a much higher rate. I also think they should uncap the property taxes so they're assessed at market value instead of subsidizing people who have owned the homes for years, at least in CA. Then instead of a 1.2% rate that's unevenly applied it could theoretically be something a 0.8% rate instead bringing in the same revenue. Instead it just encourages NIMBYs to be on their worst behavior because they never have to face any consequences for their years of blocking reasonable development. They just complain about homeless people with no self awareness that they're the ones who've been causing most of the problem. |
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Post by hugsfromlv426 on May 1, 2024 16:00:03 GMT
So confiscate private property and give it to whomever you think deserves it? And you do understand that tanking property values also tanks property tax revenues, which pay for schools, fire department, police, etc., right? It was partially a joke but I do think homes that aren't being lived in should be taxed at a much higher rate. I also think they should uncap the property taxes so they're assessed at market value instead of subsidizing people who have owned the homes for years, at least in CA. Then instead of a 1.2% rate that's unevenly applied it could theoretically be something a 0.8% rate instead bringing in the same revenue. Instead it just encourages NIMBYs to be on their worst behavior because they never have to face any consequences for their years of blocking reasonable development. They just complain about homeless people with no self awareness that they're the ones who've been causing most of the problem. Homeowners are causing the mental illness and drug abuse that leads to homelessness? |
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Post by uncreative on May 1, 2024 16:04:16 GMT
It was partially a joke but I do think homes that aren't being lived in should be taxed at a much higher rate. I also think they should uncap the property taxes so they're assessed at market value instead of subsidizing people who have owned the homes for years, at least in CA. Then instead of a 1.2% rate that's unevenly applied it could theoretically be something a 0.8% rate instead bringing in the same revenue. Instead it just encourages NIMBYs to be on their worst behavior because they never have to face any consequences for their years of blocking reasonable development. They just complain about homeless people with no self awareness that they're the ones who've been causing most of the problem. Homeowners are causing the mental illness and drug abuse that leads to homelessness? They're causing the mental illness and drug abuse that people fall into when they can't afford a place to live. Which is a lot harder to undo than it is to prevent in the first place. |
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Post by abbey1227 on May 2, 2024 0:33:31 GMT
Homeowners are causing the mental illness and drug abuse that leads to homelessness? Which is a lot harder to undo than it is to prevent in the first place.
It's MY fault that other people do not follow the same advice and actions in getting into a home of their own?
Well, thanks for clearing that mystery up.
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Post by theBROKEdontrump on May 2, 2024 0:36:49 GMT
I wanna hear more about these red light districts.....
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Post by uncreative on May 2, 2024 0:58:30 GMT
They're causing the mental illness and drug abuse that people fall into when they can't afford a place to live. Which is a lot harder to undo than it is to prevent in the first place.
It's MY fault that other people do not follow the same advice and actions in getting into a home of their own?
Well, thanks for clearing that mystery up.
When a 1 bedroom apartment costs $2,000 are low wage workers just supposed to pull a roll of $20s out of their ass? Maybe some of them could relocate to central Arkansas where an apartment costs $5 because there's only 3 jobs available in the entire county. But even if that happens there still needs to be someone left in the high cost of living cities to stock the grocery shelves or clean toilets or wait tables and those people need places to live. The only way to do that is build more housing for them. And it's the existing home owners who always want to put a stop to it. Usually they're a bunch of retirees with nothing better to do besides make life miserable for everyone else. |
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Post by abbey1227 on May 2, 2024 1:03:58 GMT
It's MY fault that other people do not follow the same advice and actions in getting into a home of their own?
Well, thanks for clearing that mystery up.
When a 1 bedroom apartment costs $2,000 are low wage workers just supposed to pull a roll of $20s out of their ass? Maybe some of them could relocate to central Arkansas where an apartment costs $5 because there's only 3 jobs available in the entire county. But even if that happens there still needs to be someone left in the high cost of living cities to stock the grocery shelves or clean toilets or wait tables and those people need places to live. The only way to do that is build more housing for them. And it's the existing home owners who always want to put a stop to it. Usually they're a bunch of retirees with nothing better to do besides make life miserable for everyone else.
There's that part where getting rid of millions of Illegals would open up plenty of job opportunities.
If the only solution is moving to the high cost of living cities........then let them erode and fall. Blaming the elderly again? You know what they're building plenty of around here these days? Retirement living. ![[grin]](http://storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/CBubFSUbXfyoLMZUjeBb.gif) |
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Post by theBROKEdontrump on May 2, 2024 1:10:56 GMT
It's MY fault that other people do not follow the same advice and actions in getting into a home of their own?
Well, thanks for clearing that mystery up.
When a 1 bedroom apartment costs $2,000 are low wage workers just supposed to pull a roll of $20s out of their ass? Maybe some of them could relocate to central Arkansas where an apartment costs $5 because there's only 3 jobs available in the entire county. But even if that happens there still needs to be someone left in the high cost of living cities to stock the grocery shelves or clean toilets or wait tables and those people need places to live. The only way to do that is build more housing for them. And it's the existing home owners who always want to put a stop to it. Usually they're a bunch of retirees with nothing better to do besides make life miserable for everyone else. In the north part of Long Island here in NY, there is an area called Glen Cove where they recently finished a major development of luxury condos, golf courses, high-end eateries and storefronts....they made damn sure there was affordable housing available a reasonable distance away because of they knew there would be a need for cheap labor.... |
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