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Post by theBROKEdontrump on May 4, 2024 16:46:19 GMT
Right now, the most famous Israeli Minister in the ruling government (other than Bibi) has an Iraqi Jewish father and a Kurd Jewish mother.
Ben Gvir is not white
JFC your hero Ben Gvir is another monster!
He even stole parts off Yitzhak Rabin's car to mock him after he was assassinated. Rabin was one of the good Israelis who actually worked for peace.
These are the thugs you worship?
I googled that after someone mentioned his name many months ago....the man is absolute scum. Not surprising that Scifi idolizes him. May as well be a Jewish David Duke.
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Post by SciFive on May 4, 2024 16:48:23 GMT
JFC your hero Ben Gvir is another monster!
He even stole parts off Yitzhak Rabin's car to mock him after he was assassinated. Rabin was one of the good Israelis who actually worked for peace.
These are the thugs you worship?
I googled that after someone mentioned his name many months ago....the man is absolute scum. Not surprising that Scifi idolizes him. May as well be a Jewish David Duke. You're attacking a person of color.
He's in the ruling government and you said that these people were all white.
Obviously, it's not true.
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Post by Prince Myshkin on May 4, 2024 17:09:35 GMT
I googled that after someone mentioned his name many months ago....the man is absolute scum. Not surprising that Scifi idolizes him. May as well be a Jewish David Duke. You're attacking a person of color.
He's in the ruling government and you said that these people were all white.
Obviously, it's not true.
The man is a terrorist. Shame on you. He pissed on Yitzhak Rabin's grave.
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Post by marsatax on May 5, 2024 17:05:50 GMT
Yes, I have noticed that a lot of the Israel-bashers have an obsession with race. I liked it better back when the left had the ideal of a colorblind society. Today's workers consider that ideal to be racist. Israel is a western nation. By definition, you cannot be a “western” country if the majoirty of the population is not white european in origin. There is nothing racial in pointing that out. otherwise, we would have to include many south american nations as western as well as they speak spanish, are catholic, and have large white populations, but when we mention the “west,” its usually in reference to western europe, usa, and australia. And to further that, these white european origin jews that live in israel control the government - like Bibi, his cabinet, his generals, etc. By definition, you cannot be a “western” country if the majoirty of the population is not white european in origin.
Rubbish. This guy can respond more eloquently than I can: fee.org/articles/education-and-the-racist-road-to-barbarism/Excerpts It [Western Civilization] is an increasingly powerful force in the rapidly progressing countries of the Far East, such as Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea, whose economies rest on “Western” foundations in every essential respect. From the perspective of intellectual and cultural content, Western civilization represents an understanding and acceptance of the following: the laws of logic; the concept of causality and, consequently, of a universe ruled by natural laws intelligible to man; on these foundations, the whole known corpus of the laws of mathematics and science; the individual’s self-responsibility based on his free will to choose between good and evil; the value of man above all other species on the basis of his unique possession of the power of reason; the value and competence of the individual human being and his corollary possession of individual rights, among them the right to life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness; the need for limited government and for the individual’s freedom from the state; on this entire preceding foundation, the validity of capitalism, with its unprecedented and continuing progress, capital accumulation, and rising living standards; in addition, the importance of visual arts and literature depicting man as capable of facing the world with confidence in his power to succeed, and music featuring harmony and melody. Once one recalls what Western civilization is, the most vital thing to realize about it is that it is open to everyone.
The truth is that just as one does not have to be from France to like French-fried potatoes or from New York to like a New York steak, one does not have to be born in Western Europe or be of West European descent to admire Western civilization, or, indeed, even to help build it. Western civilization is not a product of geography. It is a body of knowledge and values. Any individual, any society, is potentially capable of adopting it and thereby becoming “Westernized.” The rapidly progressing economies of the Far East are all “Western” insofar as they rest on a foundation of logic, mathematics, science, technology, and capitalism—exactly the same logic, mathematics, science, technology, and capitalism that are essential features of “Western” civilization. The fact that civilization is an intellectual matter is not known to the critics of “Eurocentrism.” In their view, Western civilization is a matter not even so much of geography as it is of racial membership. It is, as they see it, the civilization of the white man. The critics of “Eurocentrism” proclaim themselves to be opponents of racism. In fact, they accept exactly the same false premise they claim to oppose—namely, that civilization, or the lack of it, is racially determined. Today, the critics of “Eurocentrism” rightly refuse to accept any form of condemnation for their racial membership. They claim to hold that race is irrelevant to morality and that therefore people of every race are as good as people of every other race. But then they assume that if people of all races are equally good, all civilizations and cultures must be equally good. They derive civilization and culture from race, just as the European racists did. And this is why they too must be called racists. They differ from the European racists only in that while the latter started with the judgment of an inferior civilization or culture and proceeded backwards to the conclusion of an inferior race, the former begin with the judgment of an equally good race and proceed forward to the conclusion of an equally good civilization or culture. The error of both sets of racists is the same: the belief that civilization and culture are racially determined.
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Post by marsatax on May 5, 2024 17:11:09 GMT
I have not seen that. It is the leftists who are obsessed with race. You and Scifive are obsessing about rate right now. Yes,you constantly claim to “not see” when it’s pointed out that Scifive does things like defends right wing anti-semitism and mentions race. We know. You and Scifive are obsessing about race right now.
The topic only comes up when leftists bring it up, or when we analyze why the left hates Israel so much. Scifive does things like defends right wing anti-semitismHorseshit. She does not "defend" it. At most, she points out that there are far more leftist and Islamist Jew-haters than right-wing Jew haters, which means the former are more dangerous.
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Post by 🐾 Molly 🐾 on May 5, 2024 17:19:50 GMT
You and Scifive are obsessing about rate right now. Yes,you constantly claim to “not see” when it’s pointed out that Scifive does things like defends right wing anti-semitism and mentions race. We know. You and Scifive are obsessing about race right now.
The topic only comes up when leftists bring it up, or when we analyze why the left hates Israel so much. Scifive does things like defends right wing anti-semitismHorseshit. She does not "defend" it. At most, she points out that there are far more leftist and Islamist Jew-haters than right-wing Jew haters, which means the former are more dangerous. I’ve only seen you and Scifive being up race in terms of Israeli Jews. And yes, she has defended right wing anti-semitism. When it’s pointed out to you, like a coward you cop out and say “I don’t read all her posts”.
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Post by slowcomingwarbird on May 5, 2024 17:37:28 GMT
Gaza City is the 63rd most densely populated urban area in the world at 42,059 per square mile. Comparable in size to Manhattan.
Does it take years? It takes as long as Benjamin Netanyahu wants it to take. Which you will find works out to about February 28, 2025. Just long enough to effect the outcome of the elections.
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Post by marsatax on May 5, 2024 22:54:51 GMT
You and Scifive are obsessing about race right now.
The topic only comes up when leftists bring it up, or when we analyze why the left hates Israel so much. Scifive does things like defends right wing anti-semitismHorseshit. She does not "defend" it. At most, she points out that there are far more leftist and Islamist Jew-haters than right-wing Jew haters, which means the former are more dangerous. I’ve only seen you and Scifive being up race in terms of Israeli Jews. And yes, she has defended right wing anti-semitism. When it’s pointed out to you, like a coward you cop out and say “I don’t read all her posts”. I’ve only seen you and Scifive being up race in terms of Israeli Jews.The poster Prince Myshkin repeatedly claims that Israel was founded by "white" Ashkenazi Jews, and that they are not Hebrews because they are Germanic. The poster TheBROKEdontrump is also constantly talking about race. And yes, she has defended right wing anti-semitism. When it’s pointed out to you, like a coward you cop out and say “I don’t read all her posts”.If you make a claim about a poster, I have to read every one of her posts? I would think it is YOUR job to quote her in order to back up your claim.
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Post by Hairynosedwombat on May 6, 2024 6:26:57 GMT
The pesky Geneva Protocols are preventing proper warfare, because the only people left in Gaza are the population. The ICC and international media want IDF to make some attempt at identifying the difference between armed Hamas rapists and baby throat slitters, of which there arent any left, and Gazan children who will surely become jew rapists and throat slitters when they get older so are legitimate war targets now. Tell me, are Hamas's actions (e.g. on October 7) consistent with "the Geneva Protocols" and with ICC decisions. And if they are not, what actions should the world take against Hamas? Sanction them? Already happening. Is Israel being sanctioned for much more than 10 times the civilian deaths, mostly women and children? Go to war against Hamas? Better for the UNSC to authorise a surgical strike against the main perpetrator, which has held 2 million people in prison for 18 years, occupied and annexed part of the west bank. And oh, I forgot, murdered 30,000 people mostly women and children in revenge (civilian punishment) for the faked beheading of 40 children and rape of an unknown number (probably less that 50) of virginal Jewish girls.
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Post by Dividavi on May 6, 2024 14:09:38 GMT
The entire set of facts (and proof) about how the Kitchen food employees died was presented to the world.
There is proof that it was a mistake.
Yes, it was very tragic, multistep mistake. The aid convoy was communicating with the IDF, travelling through a safe zone with clearly marked cars, and was blasted car by car over the course of almost two miles, with the wounded survivors fleeing from the first car struck to a second car, then from the second car struck to a third car, until everybody was good and dead. First car, boom, second car, boom, third car, kablooey. Sure sounds like it was a mistake to me. Yes, I agree. It sure sounds like a mistake to me as well. Such things happen in terrorist provoked wars: The operative term is friendly fire: Here's what happened 20 years ago.
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Post by theBROKEdontrump on May 7, 2024 12:39:14 GMT
Israel is a western nation. By definition, you cannot be a “western” country if the majoirty of the population is not white european in origin. There is nothing racial in pointing that out. otherwise, we would have to include many south american nations as western as well as they speak spanish, are catholic, and have large white populations, but when we mention the “west,” its usually in reference to western europe, usa, and australia. And to further that, these white european origin jews that live in israel control the government - like Bibi, his cabinet, his generals, etc. By definition, you cannot be a “western” country if the majoirty of the population is not white european in origin.
Rubbish. This guy can respond more eloquently than I can: fee.org/articles/education-and-the-racist-road-to-barbarism/Excerpts It [Western Civilization] is an increasingly powerful force in the rapidly progressing countries of the Far East, such as Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea, whose economies rest on “Western” foundations in every essential respect. From the perspective of intellectual and cultural content, Western civilization represents an understanding and acceptance of the following: the laws of logic; the concept of causality and, consequently, of a universe ruled by natural laws intelligible to man; on these foundations, the whole known corpus of the laws of mathematics and science; the individual’s self-responsibility based on his free will to choose between good and evil; the value of man above all other species on the basis of his unique possession of the power of reason; the value and competence of the individual human being and his corollary possession of individual rights, among them the right to life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness; the need for limited government and for the individual’s freedom from the state; on this entire preceding foundation, the validity of capitalism, with its unprecedented and continuing progress, capital accumulation, and rising living standards; in addition, the importance of visual arts and literature depicting man as capable of facing the world with confidence in his power to succeed, and music featuring harmony and melody. Once one recalls what Western civilization is, the most vital thing to realize about it is that it is open to everyone.
The truth is that just as one does not have to be from France to like French-fried potatoes or from New York to like a New York steak, one does not have to be born in Western Europe or be of West European descent to admire Western civilization, or, indeed, even to help build it. Western civilization is not a product of geography. It is a body of knowledge and values. Any individual, any society, is potentially capable of adopting it and thereby becoming “Westernized.” The rapidly progressing economies of the Far East are all “Western” insofar as they rest on a foundation of logic, mathematics, science, technology, and capitalism—exactly the same logic, mathematics, science, technology, and capitalism that are essential features of “Western” civilization. The fact that civilization is an intellectual matter is not known to the critics of “Eurocentrism.” In their view, Western civilization is a matter not even so much of geography as it is of racial membership. It is, as they see it, the civilization of the white man. The critics of “Eurocentrism” proclaim themselves to be opponents of racism. In fact, they accept exactly the same false premise they claim to oppose—namely, that civilization, or the lack of it, is racially determined. Today, the critics of “Eurocentrism” rightly refuse to accept any form of condemnation for their racial membership. They claim to hold that race is irrelevant to morality and that therefore people of every race are as good as people of every other race. But then they assume that if people of all races are equally good, all civilizations and cultures must be equally good. They derive civilization and culture from race, just as the European racists did. And this is why they too must be called racists. They differ from the European racists only in that while the latter started with the judgment of an inferior civilization or culture and proceeded backwards to the conclusion of an inferior race, the former begin with the judgment of an equally good race and proceed forward to the conclusion of an equally good civilization or culture. The error of both sets of racists is the same: the belief that civilization and culture are racially determined. Nobody ever refers to the democracies in Asia and Africa and South America as “western democracies.” Even communism originated in the west. Is China a “western country?” Israel on the other hand regularly gets called a western nation despite not being in Europe, and under apartheid, people said the same of South Africa because it was under white rule. Nations do not get referred to that way unless there is a strong European presence, either population wise or through government rule. If Jews don’t want to refer to themselves as “white,” that’s fine, but the truth is they are, and the ones running the Israeli government are Europeans who immigrated there no different from the English that immigrated to the American colonies.
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Post by SciFive on May 7, 2024 12:47:45 GMT
The majority of Jews in Israel are from the Arab lands, this is true.
Yet, some haters can barely mention Israel as a country without calling Israel European.
Antisemitism in Europe included as its largest complaint that the Jews were NOT Europeans.
Now Antisemitism has as its largest complaint that they see Israeli Jews as European.
Israel is a culturally western country.
Jump all over our races as if you can punish us with them, but Israel is western.
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Post by SciFive on May 7, 2024 12:50:06 GMT
In world politics, Israel is part of the Western bloc. It maintains very close relations with the United States and good ties with Western Europe. The United States acts as a political protector, defending Israel in the United Nations and other international forums.
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Post by 🐾 Molly 🐾 on May 7, 2024 14:10:29 GMT
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Post by marsatax on May 10, 2024 21:04:44 GMT
Tell me, are Hamas's actions (e.g. on October 7) consistent with "the Geneva Protocols" and with ICC decisions. And if they are not, what actions should the world take against Hamas? Sanction them? Already happening. Is Israel being sanctioned for much more than 10 times the civilian deaths, mostly women and children? Go to war against Hamas? Better for the UNSC to authorise a surgical strike against the main perpetrator, which has held 2 million people in prison for 18 years, occupied and annexed part of the west bank. And oh, I forgot, murdered 30,000 people mostly women and children in revenge (civilian punishment) for the faked beheading of 40 children and rape of an unknown number (probably less that 50) of virginal Jewish girls. And oh, I forgot, murdered 30,000 people
Sorry, but those people were not "murdered", no more than hundreds of thousands of Germans and Japanese civilians were "murdered" in WWII. Meanwhile, did HAMAS murder anyone on October 7 ? Did your beloved regime (the Islamic Republic of Iran) call for the MURDER of Salman Rushdie?
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