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Post by san926f on May 2, 2024 3:15:04 GMT
If I had the ability, I'd give the Palestinians Canada and call it good. But then there would just be an argument about why the Israelis can't have Canada instead. No one outside Israel and Palestine has an answer for the troubles between them. I'd send Hamas to Canada in retaliation for them terrorizing us with Justin Bieber. Awww, he was such a cute kid. My daughter LOVED him. She super-glued posters of him to her walls. I didn't realize it until she moved out and I was pretty pissed. She was like "I'm sorry mom, I thought I'd love him forever" 🤣
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Post by mr_self on May 2, 2024 3:18:31 GMT
Don't let Celine Dion or Seth Rogan get off that easily. Man, I could never stand Celine Dion, but I like Seth Rogen and his stoner movies. No lie, This Is The End is hilarious.
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Post by san926f on May 2, 2024 3:22:35 GMT
While Israel is making an unprecedented effort to limit the technically non-combatants' deaths, it is only a small part of it IMO. The real reasons in no particular order: Israeli government doesn't seem to have a plan/endgame. Much pressure from abroad. Much internal pressure. There is a tiny chance that Netanyahu or/and someone among the IDF brass with a spot of integrity are trying to use this opportunity to clear out some other viper nests (Hezbollah or even Iran). But I doubt it. Thank you for this. My hope is that this ends soon with as little civilian casualties as possible. Biden is talking about taking in Palestinian refugees. I don't have a problem with it, but I can't imagine they'd be happy about coming here. I'd also worry for their safety to be totally honest. Hopefully they'd land in our higher-concentrated Muslim communities here.
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Post by Dracula on May 2, 2024 3:26:32 GMT
I'd send Hamas to Canada in retaliation for them terrorizing us with Justin Bieber. Awww, he was such a cute kid. My daughter LOVED him. She super-glued posters of him to her walls. I didn't realize it until she moved out and I was pretty pissed. She was like "I'm sorry mom, I thought I'd love him forever" 🤣 I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
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Post by san926f on May 2, 2024 3:36:10 GMT
I'd send Hamas to Canada in retaliation for them terrorizing us with Justin Bieber. Don't let Celine Dion or Seth Rogan get off that easily. Celine Dion has a great voice, though, no matter what you think of her music. She's really sick now with Stiff Person Syndrome. That's a terrible disease. I guess she's had it for years, it's partly why she stopped touring and did the Vegas thing. The story of her marrying her manager is just weird. He was 26-years older than her, which is fine, but it sounds like there was weirdness between them since she was a young teen. Like he effectively groomed her.
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Post by bartlesby on May 2, 2024 3:42:47 GMT
While Israel is making an unprecedented effort to limit the technically non-combatants' deaths, it is only a small part of it IMO. The real reasons in no particular order: Israeli government doesn't seem to have a plan/endgame. Much pressure from abroad. Much internal pressure. There is a tiny chance that Netanyahu or/and someone among the IDF brass with a spot of integrity are trying to use this opportunity to clear out some other viper nests (Hezbollah or even Iran). But I doubt it. Thank you for this. My hope is that this ends soon with as little civilian casualties as possible. Biden is talking about taking in Palestinian refugees. I don't have a problem with it, but I can't imagine they'd be happy about coming here. I'd also worry for their safety to be totally honest. Hopefully they'd land in our higher-concentrated Muslim communities here. That ship has sailed. They have not made an unprecedented effort to limit civilian deaths. (Or as papa calls them, "technical non-combatants", in order to indicate that he considers all Palestinian civilians combatants). One of their major strategies is to cause a wildly disproportionate amount of deaths so other nations won't fuck with them. One of their methods uses an AI called Lavender which generates kill lists of suspected Hamas terrorists. How does it do that? The AI identifies "characteristics" of Hamas terrorists and then applies it to the general population. If you move residences a little too often, or change your cell phone a little too often, congratulations, you're a terrorist on their kill list. If that sounds scary, it is. What's scarier is how they go about killing you. They have an automated tracking system sadistically called “Where’s Daddy?” which tracks a suspect on the already dubious kill list, and the IDF waits until they get home to their family and then bombs their whole family. It doesn't matter if their family has nothing to do with it. They all get killed. Does that sound like the actions of a nation which is making an unprecedented effort to minimize civilian casualties?
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Post by san926f on May 2, 2024 3:52:45 GMT
Thank you for this. My hope is that this ends soon with as little civilian casualties as possible. Biden is talking about taking in Palestinian refugees. I don't have a problem with it, but I can't imagine they'd be happy about coming here. I'd also worry for their safety to be totally honest. Hopefully they'd land in our higher-concentrated Muslim communities here. That ship has sailed. They have not made an unprecedented effort to limit civilian deaths. (Or as papa calls them, "technical non-combatants", in order to indicate that he considers all Palestinian civilians combatants). One of their major strategies is to cause a wildly disproportionate amount of deaths so other nations won't fuck with them. One of their methods uses an AI called Lavender which generates kill lists of suspected Hamas terrorists. How does it do that? The AI identifies "characteristics" of Hamas terrorists and then applies it to the general population. If you move residences a little too often, or change your cell phone a little too often, congratulations, you're a terrorist on their kill list. If that sounds scary, it is. What's scarier is how they go about killing you. They have an automated tracking system sadistically called “Where’s Daddy?” which tracks a suspect on the already dubious kill list, and the IDF waits until they get home to their family and then bombs their whole family. It doesn't matter if their family has nothing to do with it. They all get killed. Does that sound like the actions of a nation which is making an unprecedented effort to minimize civilian casualties? What is their reasoning for doing such things?
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Post by papamihel on May 2, 2024 3:59:42 GMT
While Israel is making an unprecedented effort to limit the technically non-combatants' deaths, it is only a small part of it IMO. The real reasons in no particular order: Israeli government doesn't seem to have a plan/endgame. Much pressure from abroad. Much internal pressure. There is a tiny chance that Netanyahu or/and someone among the IDF brass with a spot of integrity are trying to use this opportunity to clear out some other viper nests (Hezbollah or even Iran). But I doubt it. Biden is talking about taking in Palestinian refugees. I don't have a problem with it, but I can't imagine they'd be happy about coming here. Â Of course they'd be happy. I don't believe there are many old families in Gaza or any... Well, maybe some Egyptians. In any case, most of their ancestors came here after the WWI here looking for a better life. It didn't work out. You offer them a better life in the US, why would they not go?
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Post by bartlesby on May 2, 2024 4:02:46 GMT
That ship has sailed. They have not made an unprecedented effort to limit civilian deaths. (Or as papa calls them, "technical non-combatants", in order to indicate that he considers all Palestinian civilians combatants). One of their major strategies is to cause a wildly disproportionate amount of deaths so other nations won't fuck with them. One of their methods uses an AI called Lavender which generates kill lists of suspected Hamas terrorists. How does it do that? The AI identifies "characteristics" of Hamas terrorists and then applies it to the general population. If you move residences a little too often, or change your cell phone a little too often, congratulations, you're a terrorist on their kill list. If that sounds scary, it is. What's scarier is how they go about killing you. They have an automated tracking system sadistically called “Where’s Daddy?” which tracks a suspect on the already dubious kill list, and the IDF waits until they get home to their family and then bombs their whole family. It doesn't matter if their family has nothing to do with it. They all get killed. Does that sound like the actions of a nation which is making an unprecedented effort to minimize civilian casualties? What is their reasoning for doing such things? Reasoning? For starters, they don't see the Palestinians as people. They see them as a dangerous pest-- like a yellow jacket nest. To them, yellow jackets only breed more yellow jackets. It's important to understand that up-front because that dehumanization is central to why they're willing to kill whole families, down to the babies. Militarily, because it's easier to have an AI generate a list than to do actual footwork and infiltrate groups and do spywork. It's dangerous and time-consuming. And as I stated, they don't care if they ultimately get it wrong because all Palestinians are terrorists to them. The only reason they don't kill them all is because they would lose Western support and become a complete pariah state.
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Post by SciFive on May 2, 2024 4:38:10 GMT
What is their reasoning for doing such things? Reasoning? For starters, they don't see the Palestinians as people. They see them as a dangerous pest-- like a yellow jacket nest. To them, yellow jackets only breed more yellow jackets. It's important to understand that up-front because that dehumanization is central to why they're willing to kill whole families, down to the babies. Militarily, because it's easier to have an AI generate a list than to do actual footwork and infiltrate groups and do spywork. It's dangerous and time-consuming. And as I stated, they don't care if they ultimately get it wrong because all Palestinians are terrorists to them. The only reason they don't kill them all is because they would lose Western support and become a complete pariah state. The new bill against Antisemitism is aimed precisely at people who say things like this about Jews. ^^^^^
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Post by SciFive on May 2, 2024 5:07:59 GMT
Sorta goes against the narrative that Israel is just killing indiscriminately, huh?
If I had the ability, I'd give the Palestinians Canada and call it good. But then there would just be an argument about why the Israelis can't have Canada instead. No one outside Israel and Palestine has an answer for the troubles between them.   Israel wants Israel. The Palestinians want Israel, too. This is the problem.
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Post by Hairynosedwombat on May 2, 2024 5:09:33 GMT
Why is this war/conflict whatever you want to call it taking so long? The Gaza strip and Palestinian settlements aren't that big. I would think that a full war effort against Hamas terrorists shouldn't take years, right? Or am I just being naive? The pesky Geneva Protocols are preventing proper warfare, because the only people left in Gaza are the population. The ICC and international media want IDF to make some attempt at identifying the difference between armed Hamas rapists and baby throat slitters, of which there arent any left, and Gazan children who will surely become jew rapists and throat slitters when they get older so are legitimate war targets now.
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Post by san926f on May 2, 2024 5:10:02 GMT
What is their reasoning for doing such things? Reasoning? For starters, they don't see the Palestinians as people. They see them as a dangerous pest-- like a yellow jacket nest. To them, yellow jackets only breed more yellow jackets. It's important to understand that up-front because that dehumanization is central to why they're willing to kill whole families, down to the babies. Militarily, because it's easier to have an AI generate a list than to do actual footwork and infiltrate groups and do spywork. It's dangerous and time-consuming. And as I stated, they don't care if they ultimately get it wrong because all Palestinians are terrorists to them. The only reason they don't kill them all is because they would lose Western support and become a complete pariah state. Why would anyone put AI in charge of life and death decisions? That's straight out of my visions of the robot apocalypse dystopia. That's terrifying.
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Post by san926f on May 2, 2024 5:12:14 GMT
Reasoning? For starters, they don't see the Palestinians as people. They see them as a dangerous pest-- like a yellow jacket nest. To them, yellow jackets only breed more yellow jackets. It's important to understand that up-front because that dehumanization is central to why they're willing to kill whole families, down to the babies. Militarily, because it's easier to have an AI generate a list than to do actual footwork and infiltrate groups and do spywork. It's dangerous and time-consuming. And as I stated, they don't care if they ultimately get it wrong because all Palestinians are terrorists to them. The only reason they don't kill them all is because they would lose Western support and become a complete pariah state. The new bill against Antisemitism is aimed precisely at people who say things like this about Jews. ^^^^^ But is it true, about the AI and blowing up whole homes of people?
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Post by SciFive on May 2, 2024 5:12:15 GMT
Reasoning? For starters, they don't see the Palestinians as people. They see them as a dangerous pest-- like a yellow jacket nest. To them, yellow jackets only breed more yellow jackets. It's important to understand that up-front because that dehumanization is central to why they're willing to kill whole families, down to the babies. Militarily, because it's easier to have an AI generate a list than to do actual footwork and infiltrate groups and do spywork. It's dangerous and time-consuming. And as I stated, they don't care if they ultimately get it wrong because all Palestinians are terrorists to them. The only reason they don't kill them all is because they would lose Western support and become a complete pariah state. Why would anyone put AI in charge of life and death decisions? That's straight out of my visions of the robot apocalypse dystopia. That's terrifying. You’re talking to a nasty fucking troll who sticks virtual knives into people. Don’t act like he’s being real. Good fucking grief.
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