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Post by PaulsLaugh on May 6, 2024 14:14:53 GMT
No, sir, you are very simple-minded if you think that. I am defending common sense. The article is misleading as usual, I just showed you how the fear-factor threat-level it is pushing is bullshit. The “They” who “are trying to solve their demographic crisis” in this article are the Viscount Rothermere, Richard Caccappolo, and Paul Dacre who own the Daily Mail, a Right-Wing, Fleet Street scandal sheet. Keep in mind Europe’s Fascist and Nazi experiment was about demographic crisis also. The Muslim Crisis is not going to be solved fomenting another race war in Europe.
But I suppose in your mind the White Supremacist Panic is totally legitimate and totally happening...
The reason the White Supremacists are panicking over…and always have…fear of being replace by Black men, doesn’t exist.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on May 6, 2024 14:37:48 GMT
But I suppose in your mind the White Supremacist Panic is totally legitimate and totally happening...
The reason the White Supremacists are panicking over…and always have…fear of being replace by Black men, doesn’t exist. What I meant by "White Supremacist Panic" is the panic that YOU feel about "white supremacists" taking over - you know, EXACTLY like you claim that "Muslim Panic" in Europe is completely made up in order to garner support for right wing politicians.
In spite of the fact that every single institution in your country (and in mine) is fully dedicated to "diversity", you still believe that "white supremacists" are out to get you. But you refuse to believe that Muslims ARE out to conquer Europe, even though THEY HAVE BEEN SAYING EXACTLY THAT FOR DECADES!
But you don't even see the paradox and I am sure whatever your reply is, it will boil down to "no, no, MY panic is about something that is totally real, it's YOUR panic that has no grounds".
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Post by PaulsLaugh on May 6, 2024 14:53:40 GMT
The reason the White Supremacists are panicking over…and always have…fear of being replace by Black men, doesn’t exist. What I meant by "White Supremacist Panic" is the panic that YOU feel about "white supremacists" taking over - you know, EXACTLY like you claim that "Muslim Panic" in Europe is completely made up in order to garner support for right wing politicians.
In spite of the fact that every single institution in your country (and in mine) is fully dedicated to "diversity", you still believe that "white supremacists" are out to get you. But you refuse to believe that Muslims ARE out to conquer Europe, even though THEY HAVE BEEN SAYING EXACTLY THAT FOR DECADES!
But you don't even see the paradox and I am sure whatever your reply is, it will boil down to "no, no, MY panic is about something that is totally real, it's YOUR panic that has no grounds".
I don’t panic over something I’m acutely familiar with, son. Shall I recount again my story about the Klan jumped my town’s annual Christmas parade in protest after the Congress formally ended 70 years of Jim Crow? Did anyone get arrested for that day? Nope. They march the full the length of route. The onlookers were either stunned, outraged, or supportive…depending on their tolerance for diversity. Again, the panic is real among you guys, obviously, but an article full of bullshit “facts” isn’t a good way to convince me the Great Replacement Panic has any justification. The article makes it appear there thousands of little German children being terrorized to become Muslims in the public schools. Do you honestly believe that. Frankly, this panic ties into the White Captive panics of colonial and pioneer America, as well as Satanic Panics. Show me some hardcore data, not a Right Wing tabloid, that German white people are converting to Islam. Anti-diversity is just new word for segregation.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on May 6, 2024 15:23:36 GMT
What I meant by "White Supremacist Panic" is the panic that YOU feel about "white supremacists" taking over - you know, EXACTLY like you claim that "Muslim Panic" in Europe is completely made up in order to garner support for right wing politicians.
In spite of the fact that every single institution in your country (and in mine) is fully dedicated to "diversity", you still believe that "white supremacists" are out to get you. But you refuse to believe that Muslims ARE out to conquer Europe, even though THEY HAVE BEEN SAYING EXACTLY THAT FOR DECADES!
But you don't even see the paradox and I am sure whatever your reply is, it will boil down to "no, no, MY panic is about something that is totally real, it's YOUR panic that has no grounds".
I don’t panic over something I’m acutely familiar with, son. Shall I recount again my story about the Klan jumped my town’s annual Christmas parade in protest after the Congress formally ended 70 years of Jim Crow? Did anyone get arrested for that day? Nope. They march the full the length of route. The onlookers were either stunned, outraged, or supportive…depending on their tolerance for diversity. Again, the panic is real among you guys, obviously, but an article full of bullshit “facts” isn’t a good way to convince me the Great Replacement Panic has any justification. The article makes it appear there thousands of little German children being terrorized to become Muslims in the public schools. Do you honestly believe that. Frankly, this panic ties into the White Captive panics of colonial and pioneer America, as well as Satanic Panics. Show me some hardcore data, not a Right Wing tabloid, that German white people are converting to Islam. Anti-diversity is just new word for segregation. So you are still panicking now for something that happened what, 60 years ago, but Europeans are wrong to worry about something that is happening right now. OK then.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on May 6, 2024 15:27:23 GMT
I don’t panic over something I’m acutely familiar with, son. Shall I recount again my story about the Klan jumped my town’s annual Christmas parade in protest after the Congress formally ended 70 years of Jim Crow? Did anyone get arrested for that day? Nope. They march the full the length of route. The onlookers were either stunned, outraged, or supportive…depending on their tolerance for diversity. Again, the panic is real among you guys, obviously, but an article full of bullshit “facts” isn’t a good way to convince me the Great Replacement Panic has any justification. The article makes it appear there thousands of little German children being terrorized to become Muslims in the public schools. Do you honestly believe that. Frankly, this panic ties into the White Captive panics of colonial and pioneer America, as well as Satanic Panics. Show me some hardcore data, not a Right Wing tabloid, that German white people are converting to Islam. Anti-diversity is just new word for segregation. So you are still panicking now for something that happened what, 60 years ago, but Europeans are wrong to worry about something that is happening right now. OK then.
That panicky headline that George Wallace would have approved of wasn’t written twenty years. Do you think it is impossible Muslims can be secularized with assimilation into European society?
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Post by roughnight on May 6, 2024 15:55:00 GMT
This guy has coming up to 450 thousand followers. My take on this is basically an ultimatum. There's millions of Muslims who have taken over certain areas so you better shut up and take it, conform or get out and leave a place where your ancestors might have lived for hundreds of years.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on May 6, 2024 18:11:28 GMT
So you are still panicking now for something that happened what, 60 years ago, but Europeans are wrong to worry about something that is happening right now. OK then.
That panicky headline that George Wallace would have approved of wasn’t written twenty years. Do you think it is impossible Muslims can be secularized with assimilation into European society? A few years ago I read an opinion piece in a French newspaper that started with quotes from 100 years earlier from various sources of people greatly concerned about the large numbers of Italians coming to France. The author than basically said that just like the “Italian panic” (to use your expression) of the early 20th century turned out to be completely unwarranted, so is the early 21st century fear of Muslim immigration. That’s all very well and good, and I sincerely hope he is right and that forty years from now French Muslims are as French as Ivo Livi was (you may know him as Yves Montand). But there is one crucial difference between Italian immigration 100 years ago and Muslim immigration today that the author didn’t take into account or chose to ignore: not one single Italian EVER emigrated to France with the intent of changing France into Italy!, whereas a non-negligible portion of today’s Muslim immigrants are very open about their goal of destroying French liberal democracy and replacing it with an Islamic theocracy, sharia law and all. They don’t even try to hide it! Back to your question, no, I don’t think it is impossible that they will assimilate. But I see no sign that that’s what’s happening; quite the contrary. In any case, I think it would be far more prudent to take them at their word, assume that they mean what they say when they call for Sharia Law for Germany/France/Belgium/the UK, and act accordingly, err in the side of caution and stop bringing even more of them in.
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Post by Stammerhead on May 6, 2024 18:37:05 GMT
The name Londonistan is brought up quite a few time but although we do have areas with a high percentage of Muslims the breakdown of religions from the 2021 census are…
Religion in London (2021) Christianity (40.66%) Not religious (27.05%) Islam (14.99%) Undeclared (7.00%) Hinduism (5.15%) Judaism (1.65%) Sikhism (1.64%) Buddhism (0.99%) Other religion (0.88%)
Although I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out that the Muslim percentage has risen since then we’re still Christianity-Upon-Thames.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on May 6, 2024 18:45:07 GMT
That panicky headline that George Wallace would have approved of wasn’t written twenty years. Do you think it is impossible Muslims can be secularized with assimilation into European society? A few years ago I read an opinion piece in a French newspaper that started with quotes from 100 years earlier from various sources of people greatly concerned about the large numbers of Italians coming to France. The author than basically said that just like the “Italian panic” (to use your expression) of the early 20th century turned out to be completely unwarranted, so is the early 21st century fear of Muslim immigration. That’s all very well and good, and I sincerely hope he is right and that forty years from now French Muslims are as French as Ivo Livi was (you may know him as Yves Montand). But there is one crucial difference between Italian immigration 100 years ago and Muslim immigration today that the author didn’t take into account or chose to ignore: not one single Italian EVER emigrated to France with the intent of changing France into Italy!, whereas a non-negligible portion of today’s Muslim immigrants are very open about their goal of destroying French liberal democracy and replacing it with an Islamic theocracy, sharia law and all. They don’t even try to hide it! Back to your question, no, I don’t think it is impossible that they will assimilate. But I see no sign that that’s what’s happening; quite the contrary. In any case, I think it would be far more prudent to take them at their word, assume that they mean what they say when they call for Sharia Law for Germany/France/Belgium/the UK, and act accordingly, err in the side of caution and stop bringing even more of them in. Why then not support atheism, instead of Christianity, as the critical thinkers’ choice and stop fobbing off Christianity, something you don’t believe in, as “well, at least it’s not Islam.” As far their demands for Sharia Law, do most Europe nations not have a separation of church and state? Just tell them no! It is Sharia Law and is a fake law and against the real law. I wish someone would stand up to the assholes writing Bible Law into our system. It too is fake. You are in more danger of your life being ruined if indeed some of these religious fanatics, who are Trump’s most ardent supporters and insiders, get their holy hands on the Nuclear Football. That sounds far fetch, unless you consider the long, fundamentalist belief in the literal Second Coming of Christ and Trump’s utter egomaniacal incompetence. My panic is more likely to happen than yours. 2033 is closing. They expect Christ to keep his Word, they will make it happen if need be.
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Post by Carl LaFong on May 6, 2024 19:08:33 GMT
The name Londonistan is brought up quite a few time but although we do have areas with a high percentage of Muslims the breakdown of religions from the 2021 census are… Religion in London (2021) Christianity (40.66%) Not religious (27.05%) Islam (14.99%) Undeclared (7.00%) Hinduism (5.15%) Judaism (1.65%) Sikhism (1.64%) Buddhism (0.99%) Other religion (0.88%) Although I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out that the Muslim percentage has risen since then we’re still Christianity-Upon-Thames. That’s not too bad at all. But it ever gets to 15% then we’re totally fucked!
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Post by Jep Gambardella on May 6, 2024 19:14:01 GMT
A few years ago I read an opinion piece in a French newspaper that started with quotes from 100 years earlier from various sources of people greatly concerned about the large numbers of Italians coming to France. The author than basically said that just like the “Italian panic” (to use your expression) of the early 20th century turned out to be completely unwarranted, so is the early 21st century fear of Muslim immigration. That’s all very well and good, and I sincerely hope he is right and that forty years from now French Muslims are as French as Ivo Livi was (you may know him as Yves Montand). But there is one crucial difference between Italian immigration 100 years ago and Muslim immigration today that the author didn’t take into account or chose to ignore: not one single Italian EVER emigrated to France with the intent of changing France into Italy!, whereas a non-negligible portion of today’s Muslim immigrants are very open about their goal of destroying French liberal democracy and replacing it with an Islamic theocracy, sharia law and all. They don’t even try to hide it! Back to your question, no, I don’t think it is impossible that they will assimilate. But I see no sign that that’s what’s happening; quite the contrary. In any case, I think it would be far more prudent to take them at their word, assume that they mean what they say when they call for Sharia Law for Germany/France/Belgium/the UK, and act accordingly, err in the side of caution and stop bringing even more of them in. Why then not support atheism, instead of Christianity, as the critical thinkers’ choice and stop fobbing off Christianity, something you don’t believe in, as “well, at least it’s not Islam.” As far their demands for Sharia Law, do most Europe nations not have a separation of church and state? Just tell them no! It is Sharia Law and is a fake law and against the real law. I wish someone would stand up to the assholes writing Bible Law into our system. It too is fake. You are in more danger of your life being ruined if indeed some of these religious fanatics, who are Trump’s most ardent supporters and insiders, get their holy hands on the Nuclear Football. That sounds far fetch, unless you consider the long, fundamentalist belief in the literal Second Coming of Christ and Trump’s utter egomaniacal incompetence. My panic is more likely to happen than yours. 2033 is closing. They expect Christ to keep his Word, they will make it happen if need be. I am pretty sure I have never defended Christianity here, unless you count me saying that it is far less objectionable than Islam.
I can't believe how naïve you are that you think you could simply tell Islamists "now, now, fellas, easy with the Sharia stuff, don't you know that we have separation of mosque and state in this country?" and that they would say "Oh, OK, sorry about that, we didn't know, forget we said anything then".
I am not worried about the threat that Islamists pose to MY life or MY way of life. I will be long dead by the time the first European country falls or is thrown into a civil war, and even deader by the time it happens here in Canada. Just how selfish are you that you can't conceive of people caring about issues that don't affect them personally?
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