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Post by ShadowSouL Likes This on May 8, 2024 6:23:03 GMT
Then what were the payments for?
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Post by abbey1227 on May 8, 2024 6:27:10 GMT
Then what were the payments for?
Was it Charlie Sheen? probably not..........but the line is "You don't pay for the sex. You pay them to go away"
For the record: I have no doubt there was sex between those 2 people.
But unlike some other presidents, it certainly appears to have been consensual. Her reevaluation years later not withstanding.
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Post by merh on May 8, 2024 7:56:26 GMT
Then what were the payments for?
Was it Charlie Sheen? probably not..........but the line is "You don't pay for the sex. You pay them to go away"
For the record: I have no doubt there was sex between those 2 people.
But unlike some other presidents, it certainly appears to have been consensual. Her reevaluation years later not withstanding.
So how about the other gal who apparently was an affair? There has never been an issue with Daniels that it was anything other than a 1 night stand. The issue is he felt the need to hush it up yet played accounting games to do so. We do know he cheated on Ivana with Marla Maples so we know it is within his behavior pattern.
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Post by Olaf Plunket on May 8, 2024 8:22:49 GMT
Then what were the payments for? Was it Charlie Sheen? probably not..........but the line is "You don't pay for the sex. You pay them to go away" For the record: I have no doubt there was sex between those 2 people.
But unlike some other presidents, it certainly appears to have been consensual. Her reevaluation years later not withstanding. Clinton and Lewinsky were not consensual? You must be young. Older people can remember a time when sex outside marriage was wrong even if the two parties consented Do you think "third" party Ivana Trump consented to sex between Donald and Marla Maples? Why the divorce then? If Melania consented to sex between Donald and Stormy Daniels would that make it totally acceptable to everyone? What many people do not understand is that if people are having sex with whomever, whenever then the meaning of marriage is totally gone. When the legal recognition of homosexual marriage was first considered many "Republicans" complained. They asked how homosexual marriage could be the "same" as heterosexual marriage? The sad answer of course is that if heterosexual marriage means nothing at all, then homosexual marriage can easily mean just as much. You should know that many "Republican" marriages at the time meant nothing at all, way ahead of Trump.
Are you seeing how one thing led to another? When sex was confined to marriage and only one marriage was allowed (till death do you part), homosexuality was essentially doomed to being childless. With "no fault" divorce and people flitting in and out of marriage like a Russian tea room, that was no longer the proscription it had been.
That is what is so weird about Republican attitudes toward homosexuality today. Many of them obviously don't like it, but they do not understand how their own lax attitudes toward marriage caused the "problem" in the first place.
The Trump base does not understand anything at all about life, marriage is just one of those. We have women on this board (no links today) who think Donald Trump will restore proper attitudes about anything. It was what the "right" was about in the past, principles for life. Modern "Republicans" have forgotten all about principles. They are not thinkers, they're just fighters. They are going to fight for Donald Trump and not be bothered with that difficult thinking. "Oh, is homosexuality a problem? Well, stupid whores, what did you think would happen when you trivialized sex?"
Many people today, for whatever reasons, have very solid marriages. Many of them like the idea that their marriage is so solid even in these times. They like the idea that their spouse "may" have sex outside marriage but chooses to remain faithful -- by free will. It makes a really great movie, but it probably contributes to the deterioration of society.
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Post by jeffersoncody on May 8, 2024 8:27:12 GMT
I don't think anyone does not believe the sleazy trump didn't have sex with porn star Stormy Daniels.
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Post by abbey1227 on May 8, 2024 8:50:55 GMT
So how about the other gal who apparently was an affair? There has never been an issue with Daniels that it was anything other than a 1 night stand. The issue is he felt the need to hush it up yet played accounting games to do so. We do know he cheated on Ivana with Marla Maples so we know it is within his behavior pattern.
Karen McDougal? What a little hottie. What about her? Hard to blame anyone for being attracted to her.
So you're upset it was the left hand versus the right hand?
Absolutely. Just like most wealthy/famous guys. They're often about as faithful as their options. But even some of the lowly peons get up to cheating on their spouses. Which is what makes anyone feigning total outrage about it so damn funny these days.
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Post by jeffersoncody on May 8, 2024 8:56:09 GMT
So how about the other gal who apparently was an affair? There has never been an issue with Daniels that it was anything other than a 1 night stand. The issue is he felt the need to hush it up yet played accounting games to do so. We do know he cheated on Ivana with Marla Maples so we know it is within his behavior pattern.
Karen McDougal? What a little hottie. What about her? Hard to blame anyone for being attracted to her.
So you're upset it was the left hand versus the right hand?
Absolutely. Just like most wealthy/famous guys. They're often about as faithful as their options. But even some of the lowly peons get up to cheating on their spouses. Which is what makes anyone feigning total outrage about it so damn funny these days.
If having affairs and fucking porn stars is so cool, why did the obnoxious fat fuck try so hard to cover them up?
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Post by abbey1227 on May 8, 2024 8:59:03 GMT
If having affairs and fucking porn stars is so cool, why did the obnoxious fat fuck try so hard to cover them up?
Because he was trying to get elected.
That's the funny thing about Americans.......they're some of the biggest hypocrites you'll ever find.
They get up to all sorts of marital shenanigans (if not just high divorce rates) but then they only wanna vote for pols that take photos of their perfect family?
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Post by Olaf Plunket on May 8, 2024 9:02:09 GMT
So how about the other gal who apparently was an affair? There has never been an issue with Daniels that it was anything other than a 1 night stand. The issue is he felt the need to hush it up yet played accounting games to do so. We do know he cheated on Ivana with Marla Maples so we know it is within his behavior pattern. Karen McDougal? What a little hottie. What about her? Hard to blame anyone for being attracted to her. So you're upset it was the left hand versus the right hand? Absolutely. Just like most wealthy/famous guys. They're often about as faithful as their options. But even some of the lowly peons get up to cheating on their spouses. Which is what makes anyone feigning total outrage about it so damn funny these days. You know what would be a lot different? If you were right about anything would be a lot different. Oh wait, I almost forgot, you're libertarian-ish. So everyone pay attention to that guy because he knows this stuff.
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Post by abbey1227 on May 8, 2024 9:02:15 GMT
Then what were the payments for?
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Post by abbey1227 on May 8, 2024 9:03:04 GMT
You know what would be a lot different? If you were right about anything would be a lot different. Oh wait, I almost forgot, you're libertarian-ish. So everyone pay attention to that guy because he knows this stuff.
can you arrange for a translator?
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Post by merh on May 8, 2024 10:05:00 GMT
So how about the other gal who apparently was an affair? There has never been an issue with Daniels that it was anything other than a 1 night stand. The issue is he felt the need to hush it up yet played accounting games to do so. We do know he cheated on Ivana with Marla Maples so we know it is within his behavior pattern.
Karen McDougal? What a little hottie. What about her? Hard to blame anyone for being attracted to her.
So you're upset it was the left hand versus the right hand?
Absolutely. Just like most wealthy/famous guys. They're often about as faithful as their options. But even some of the lowly peons get up to cheating on their spouses. Which is what makes anyone feigning total outrage about it so damn funny these days.
www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1986-10-03-This was pretty big when it broke. Dude was apparently taking friends & family to expensive dinners on the city credit card. But no problem, right? Just an accounting issue!
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Post by abbey1227 on May 8, 2024 10:53:19 GMT
This was pretty big when it broke. Dude was apparently taking friends & family to expensive dinners on the city credit card. But no problem, right? Just an accounting issue!
I got no problem with idiots blowing their own money.
I have many problems with idiots blowing OUR money. I realize as a Democrat that's not something you really distinguish between.
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Post by Olaf Plunket on May 8, 2024 10:56:04 GMT
You know what would be a lot different? If you were right about anything would be a lot different. Oh wait, I almost forgot, you're libertarian-ish. So everyone pay attention to that guy because he knows this stuff. can you arrange for a translator? Maybe you can't figure out why I said it, but you know what I said. I said it because you, like so many people on the internet, appear to have thoughts with little preparation. Don't get me wrong, I know spontaneity has its value. It is generally supposed that spontaneity is more truthful than speech with hours of preparation. In order to access hidden biases or attitudes, professionals try rapid fire questions with shorter answers. It is generally supposed that your spontaneous responses are the "real" you, and that more prepared responses are somehow tainted. Some people, not picking on you especially, are basically a set of animal drives without much thought. On these discussion boards it might be real or it might be more mocking, like "Heck yeah, I'd do that" in reference to a person. Other people can spend hours holding their thoughts to various disciplines. At one time there was more discipline to the Republican Party, and the Democrats had a style of more discipline their own way. For better or worse, we have much more spontaneity in both parties. By the way, and again not to pick on you especially, "libertarian" is not a discipline in the ordinary sense. HTH
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Post by Fetzer Zinfandel ♀︎ on May 8, 2024 11:04:11 GMT
maga is pretending the payments were to protect Melania from pain. No sex, but they paid off a porn star anyway, to protect Melania. 😂😂😂
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