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Post by Carl LaFong on Jun 12, 2024 17:43:08 GMT
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Jun 12, 2024 18:40:41 GMT
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jun 12, 2024 19:13:54 GMT
Shame she lost on a technicality, rather than having the rules tested. |
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Post by amyghost on Jun 12, 2024 19:20:27 GMT
I have no argument against anyone's decision to gender transition, but I do believe there's a sound case to be made for any male who's undergone puberty as having an unfair strength capacity over the majority of biological females. Bigotry has no place in sport, but common-sense respect for basic fairness does.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Jun 12, 2024 19:23:59 GMT
Shame she lost on a technicality, rather than having the rules tested. That is true. It would have been better if the ruling had been "Male-born athletes are not allowed to compete in women's events. End of discussion."
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Post by Power Ranger on Jun 12, 2024 19:43:08 GMT
I have no argument against anyone's decision to gender transition, but I do believe there's a sound case to be made for any male who's undergone puberty as having an unfair strength capacity over the majority of biological females. Bigotry has no place in sport, but common-sense respect for basic fairness does. This is it. Trans rights have made leaps and bounds in such a small time but this absolutist radicalism has put trans issues firmly in the centre of the culture wars and is probably detrimental to their efforts. |
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Post by amyghost on Jun 12, 2024 19:48:33 GMT
I have no argument against anyone's decision to gender transition, but I do believe there's a sound case to be made for any male who's undergone puberty as having an unfair strength capacity over the majority of biological females. Bigotry has no place in sport, but common-sense respect for basic fairness does. This is it. Trans rights have made leaps and bounds in such a small time but this absolutist radicalism has put trans issues firmly in the centre of the culture wars and is probably detrimental to their efforts. It comes down to a simple matter of having to recognize that when you demand rights, you're going to have responsibilities to the surrounding society and culture attached. Fledgling 'marginal' groups who are being granted those rights don't always immediately recognize this, and that's not a crime: it takes time to find the way on these issues. But they do have to be addressed at some juncture, and while the results are never going to please everybody, it's better that they be dealt with up front and early on. |
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Post by MrFurious on Jun 14, 2024 15:14:43 GMT
Good. They're taking the mickey wanting to enter. Leave the sportswomen alone.
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Post by weststigersbob on Jun 14, 2024 17:43:23 GMT
As has been mentioned thousands of times before - the overwhelming majority of the social commentary about trans rights in sports are from people who see this as a black and white issue.
Trans women, irrespective of any therapy or treatment toward becoming women, must, MUST, be allowed to compete in women’s sport - because according to them, they are women. Full stop, end of story.
To them, trans-rights literally supersede any other rights or considerations, especially equity in sports.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jun 15, 2024 9:03:55 GMT
Personally, while the IOC were almost certainly passing the buck when they left it to individual sports to determine, I do think that's the answer. I don't want governments and international courts putting blanket bans on transgender sport because the majority of people affected will be completely unremarkable athletically and just trying to stay fit and socialise and are accepted in those communities. So leave it to professional sporting bodies to place restrictions and let the weekend ametuers govern themselves.
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