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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 16, 2024 10:24:08 GMT
Gareth Southgate has announced he has stepped down as England’s manager after eight years. The Football Association had hoped he would extend his contract after he led the team to the final of Euro 2024 but Southgate has decided to seek a new challenge. “As a proud Englishman, it has been the honour of my life to play for England and to manage England,” Southgate said. “It has meant everything to me, and I have given it my all. But it’s time for change, and for a new chapter. Sunday’s final in Berlin against Spain was my final game as England manager.” The 53-year-old is England’s most successful manager in terms of consistent major tournament performance. England also reached the European Championship final in 2021, losing to Italy, and a World Cup semi-final in 2018, when they were beaten by Croatia. In his other World Cup, the team were eliminated by France in the quarter-finals. www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jul/16/gareth-southgate-resigns-as-england-manager-after-euro-2024-final-defeat |
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Post by Nogbad on Jul 16, 2024 11:05:44 GMT
His statement was a bit mealy-mouthed, he should have said "we have the best fans in the world apart from those who throw beer over me, boo taking the knee and abuse our own players".
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Post by sdm3 on Jul 16, 2024 11:29:39 GMT
He deserves a lot of credit having turned England around (2016 was perhaps the nadir of modern England fandom) but it's clear that a new tactical approach was needed to take the team to the next level. They were consistently second-best whenever they came up against a quality side and they made it through Euro 2024 on luck alone. Not a recipe for success.
The next hire is vital, however. Potter, maybe. Howe, I don't know...
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 16, 2024 12:52:35 GMT
His statement was a bit mealy-mouthed, he should have said "we have the best fans in the world apart from those who throw beer over me, boo taking the knee and abuse our own players". Some of those boos were warranted .. let’s face it, they were fucking awful for at least half the tournament. |
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 16, 2024 12:53:12 GMT
He deserves a lot of credit having turned England around (2016 was perhaps the nadir of modern England fandom) but it's clear that a new tactical approach was needed to take the team to the next level. They were consistently second-best whenever they came up against a quality side and they made it through Euro 2024 on luck alone. Not a recipe for success. The next hire is vital, however. Potter, maybe. Howe, I don't know... Klopp is at a bit of a loose end? |
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Post by notoriousnobbi on Jul 16, 2024 13:14:44 GMT
Southgate has found a perfect moment to let it go. Being in the crosshair of fan flak for so long surely has reduced his life expancy. Carl LaFongKlopp has just started to have a normal life and You want to take that away from him? |
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 16, 2024 13:16:50 GMT
Southgate has found a perfect moment to let it go. Being in the crosshair of fan flak for so long surely has reduced his life expancy. Carl LaFong Klopp has just started to have a normal life and You want to take that away from him? He deserved a lot of the shit he got. Christ Almighty, did you watch the group matches? |
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Post by notoriousnobbi on Jul 16, 2024 13:27:49 GMT
Southgate has found a perfect moment to let it go. Being in the crosshair of fan flak for so long surely has reduced his life expancy. Carl LaFong Klopp has just started to have a normal life and You want to take that away from him? He deserved a lot of the shit he got. Christ Almighty, did you watch the group matches? I skipped the England matches in the group stage 😏 |
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 16, 2024 13:28:44 GMT
He deserved a lot of the shit he got. Christ Almighty, did you watch the group matches? I skipped the England matches in the group stage 😏 Wise move. His tactics were shit, as were the team. |
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Post by Nogbad on Jul 16, 2024 15:12:41 GMT
Southgate has found a perfect moment to let it go. Being in the crosshair of fan flak for so long surely has reduced his life expancy. Carl LaFong Klopp has just started to have a normal life and You want to take that away from him? He deserved a lot of the shit he got. Christ Almighty, did you watch the group matches? He didn't deserve having beer thrown over him. Nor did his players deserve the abuse they got for taking the knee or missing penalties. I'm not denying that his limits as a manager have fairly clearly been reached, but the aggressive, whiny entitlement of so many of his critics amongst the fans and in the press was unwarranted. If not unexpected. |
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 16, 2024 15:27:03 GMT
He deserved a lot of the shit he got. Christ Almighty, did you watch the group matches? He didn't deserve having beer thrown over him. Nor did his players deserve the abuse they got for taking the knee or missing penalties. I'm not denying that his limits as a manager have fairly clearly been reached, but the aggressive, whiny entitlement of so many of his critics amongst the fans and in the press was unwarranted. If not unexpected. No the beer thing was wrong. And the racist abuse after the penalty misses a few years ago. Taking the knee is a pointless bag of shite. |
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Post by sdm3 on Jul 16, 2024 15:46:09 GMT
He deserves a lot of credit having turned England around (2016 was perhaps the nadir of modern England fandom) but it's clear that a new tactical approach was needed to take the team to the next level. They were consistently second-best whenever they came up against a quality side and they made it through Euro 2024 on luck alone. Not a recipe for success. The next hire is vital, however. Potter, maybe. Howe, I don't know... Klopp is at a bit of a loose end? I doubt Klopp would go for it, he seems committed to taking a year off. Tuchel's name has been bandied about - he'd be a good choice if the FA could seal the deal. |
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Post by Nogbad on Jul 17, 2024 11:00:28 GMT
He didn't deserve having beer thrown over him. Nor did his players deserve the abuse they got for taking the knee or missing penalties. I'm not denying that his limits as a manager have fairly clearly been reached, but the aggressive, whiny entitlement of so many of his critics amongst the fans and in the press was unwarranted. If not unexpected. No the beer thing was wrong. And the racist abuse after the penalty misses a few years ago. Taking the knee is a pointless bag of shite. I know a week is a long time in politics and deflection alike, but three years isn't that long to me, or to anyone else who can, for example, recall watching The Black And White Minstrel Show on tv. The opposition to taking the knee, the form it takes, and those who do so, are a very strong indication of how far our society still has to go, IMO. |
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 17, 2024 11:21:49 GMT
No the beer thing was wrong. And the racist abuse after the penalty misses a few years ago. Taking the knee is a pointless bag of shite. I know a week is a long time in politics and deflection alike, but three years isn't that long to me, or to anyone else who can, for example, recall watching The Black And White Minstrel Show on tv. The opposition to taking the knee, the form it takes, and those who do so, are a very strong indication of how far our society still has to go, IMO. Oh, ffs. How long ago was TBAWMS taken off air? Just looked it up, 46 years ago. I wouldn’t boo anyone taking the knee, but I still think it’s a bit silly. |
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