Post by Carl LaFong on Aug 14, 2024 10:18:39 GMT
“In last season’s Eredivisie, De Klassieker had an aggregate score of Feyenoord 10-0 Ajax. Have any other derbies had such a lopsided scoreline across both legs of a season?” wonders Jack Hayward.
What’s worse: losing 4-0 at home or 6-0 away? Ajax got to wrestle with that question after being routed twice by Feyenoord last season. An aggregate score of 10-0 is pretty emphatic, but we’ve seen worse. Or at least read about worse.
“As every Sunderland fan knows, in 1909 the Black Cats stunned Newcastle United 9-1 at St James’ Park in what remains the biggest away victory in the top flight (and Newcastle’s worst home defeat) to take the shine off the Toon’s title-winning campaign,” writes Richard English. “Sunderland also won the reverse fixture 3-1 to complete a 12-2 aggregate, although Newcastle put them out of the FA Cup.”
Most of the biggest shellackings came in the distant past, though there have been at least two big ones in the Premier League era. Manchester United beat City 5-0 and 3-0 in 1994-95, with Andrei Kanchelskis scoring half of their eight goals, and Liverpool humiliated United 5-0 (at Old Trafford) and 4-0 in 2021-22. Mohamed Salah scored five of their nine goals.
A word also for Bayern Munich, who eviscerated Borussia Dortmund 11-1 at home in the 1971-72; a tight victory in the return game made the aggregate score 12-1.
With thanks to Chris Roe and especially Ruben, who dropped a phonebook in our inbox with a note beginning “This list is far from complete …”, here’s a list of derbies with an aggregate difference of at least eight goals. The home result is first – and no, all those Schalke v Dortmund games aren’t misprints.
8-0 Manchester United v Manchester City, Premier League 1994-95 (5-0, 3-0)
9-0 Schalke v Borussia Dortmund, Gauliga 1942-43 (2-0, 7-0)
Liverpool v Manchester United, Premier League 2021-22 (4-0, 5-0)
10-0 Feyenoord v Ajax, Eredivisie 2023-24 (6-0, 4-0)
11-1 Arsenal v Tottenham, Division One 1934-35 (5-1, 6-0)
Schalke v Dortmund, Gauliga 1936-37 (4-1, 7-0)
12-2 Sunderland v Newcastle, Division One 1908-09 (3-1, 9-1)
Schalke v Dortmund, Gauliga 1941-42 (6-1, 6-1)
13-3 Schalke v Dortmund, Gauliga 1938-39 (6-0, 7-3)
16-6 Torino v Juventus, Prima Categoria 1912-13 (8-0, 8-6)
11-0 Athletic Bilbao v Donostia (now Real Sociedad), La Liga 1934-35 (7-0, 4-0)
12-0 Schalke v Dortmund, Gauliga 1940-41 (10-0, 2-0)
12-1 Milan v Juventus, Prima Categoria 1911-12 (8-1, 4-0)
Bayern Munich v Dortmund, Bundesliga 1971-72 (11-1, 1-0)
15-0 Nottingham Forest v Leicester Fosse, Division One 1908-09 (12-0, 3-0)
16-0 Schalke v Dortmund*, Gauliga 1939-40 (9-0, 7-0)
* Ruben also makes the point that Schalke and Dortmund weren’t really rivals when all those shellackings took place, but we’re including them with an asterisk to nip any accusations of typical Guardian anti-Schalke bias in the bud.
What’s worse: losing 4-0 at home or 6-0 away? Ajax got to wrestle with that question after being routed twice by Feyenoord last season. An aggregate score of 10-0 is pretty emphatic, but we’ve seen worse. Or at least read about worse.
“As every Sunderland fan knows, in 1909 the Black Cats stunned Newcastle United 9-1 at St James’ Park in what remains the biggest away victory in the top flight (and Newcastle’s worst home defeat) to take the shine off the Toon’s title-winning campaign,” writes Richard English. “Sunderland also won the reverse fixture 3-1 to complete a 12-2 aggregate, although Newcastle put them out of the FA Cup.”
Most of the biggest shellackings came in the distant past, though there have been at least two big ones in the Premier League era. Manchester United beat City 5-0 and 3-0 in 1994-95, with Andrei Kanchelskis scoring half of their eight goals, and Liverpool humiliated United 5-0 (at Old Trafford) and 4-0 in 2021-22. Mohamed Salah scored five of their nine goals.
A word also for Bayern Munich, who eviscerated Borussia Dortmund 11-1 at home in the 1971-72; a tight victory in the return game made the aggregate score 12-1.
With thanks to Chris Roe and especially Ruben, who dropped a phonebook in our inbox with a note beginning “This list is far from complete …”, here’s a list of derbies with an aggregate difference of at least eight goals. The home result is first – and no, all those Schalke v Dortmund games aren’t misprints.
8-0 Manchester United v Manchester City, Premier League 1994-95 (5-0, 3-0)
9-0 Schalke v Borussia Dortmund, Gauliga 1942-43 (2-0, 7-0)
Liverpool v Manchester United, Premier League 2021-22 (4-0, 5-0)
10-0 Feyenoord v Ajax, Eredivisie 2023-24 (6-0, 4-0)
11-1 Arsenal v Tottenham, Division One 1934-35 (5-1, 6-0)
Schalke v Dortmund, Gauliga 1936-37 (4-1, 7-0)
12-2 Sunderland v Newcastle, Division One 1908-09 (3-1, 9-1)
Schalke v Dortmund, Gauliga 1941-42 (6-1, 6-1)
13-3 Schalke v Dortmund, Gauliga 1938-39 (6-0, 7-3)
16-6 Torino v Juventus, Prima Categoria 1912-13 (8-0, 8-6)
11-0 Athletic Bilbao v Donostia (now Real Sociedad), La Liga 1934-35 (7-0, 4-0)
12-0 Schalke v Dortmund, Gauliga 1940-41 (10-0, 2-0)
12-1 Milan v Juventus, Prima Categoria 1911-12 (8-1, 4-0)
Bayern Munich v Dortmund, Bundesliga 1971-72 (11-1, 1-0)
15-0 Nottingham Forest v Leicester Fosse, Division One 1908-09 (12-0, 3-0)
16-0 Schalke v Dortmund*, Gauliga 1939-40 (9-0, 7-0)
* Ruben also makes the point that Schalke and Dortmund weren’t really rivals when all those shellackings took place, but we’re including them with an asterisk to nip any accusations of typical Guardian anti-Schalke bias in the bud.
