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Post by Flying Monkeys on Nov 20, 2024 14:18:48 GMT
Easy solution - convert the restrooms so each cubicle is a self-contained unit (mini room) with toilet, sink, dryer and mirror. Remove all of the communal stuff like the sinks outside the cubicles. Done. Not at all a bad idea. I've been in places that had handicapped restrooms which are fitted out like this. It's very common now in offices in the UK. |
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Post by Based Chad on Nov 20, 2024 14:18:49 GMT
Easy solution - convert the restrooms so each cubicle is a self-contained unit (mini room) with toilet, sink, dryer and mirror. Remove all of the communal stuff like the sinks outside the cubicles. Done. Can't be done. Re-plumbing on that scale is not feasible. You'd have to tear up the floors and chisel through concrete on a ludicrous scale. And even if it were, that would lead to less toilets total. And finally, the costs is ridiculous since we have a solution. Just keep the bathrooms segregated by sex. |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Nov 20, 2024 14:20:02 GMT
Easy solution - convert the restrooms so each cubicle is a self-contained unit (mini room) with toilet, sink, dryer and mirror. Remove all of the communal stuff like the sinks outside the cubicles. Done. Can't be done. Re-plumbing on that scale is not feasible. You'd have to tear up the floors and chisel through concrete on a ludicrous scale. And even if it were, that would lead to less toilets total. And finally, the costs is ridiculous since we have a solution. Just keep the bathrooms segregated by sex. It's very common in the UK - it can be done. Anyway, I thought you guys were AmeriCANS, not AmeriCAN'TS. |
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Post by Based Chad on Nov 20, 2024 14:24:25 GMT
Can't be done. Re-plumbing on that scale is not feasible. You'd have to tear up the floors and chisel through concrete on a ludicrous scale. And even if it were, that would lead to less toilets total. And finally, the costs is ridiculous since we have a solution. Just keep the bathrooms segregated by sex. It's very common in the UK - it can be done. Anyway, I thought you guys were AmeriCANS, not AmeriCAN'TS. Not to existing historical buildings, it can't. Especially with the laws about renovating places with lead paint. |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Nov 20, 2024 14:34:48 GMT
It's very common in the UK - it can be done. Anyway, I thought you guys were AmeriCANS, not AmeriCAN'TS. Not to existing historical buildings, it can't. Especially with the laws about renovating places with lead paint. What's the law? To leave it alone? The law should require building operators to get rid of that paint. Must be different where you are if the law prevents bathroom renovations. |
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Post by Based Chad on Nov 20, 2024 14:50:03 GMT
Not to existing historical buildings, it can't. Especially with the laws about renovating places with lead paint. What's the law? To leave it alone? The law should require building operators to get rid of that paint. Must be different where you are if the law prevents bathroom renovations. You can't leave it alone if you are bursting up the floors. The law is such that anything that disturbs lead paint makes renovations impossible from a cost standpoint. www.epa.gov/lead/lead-laws-and-regulations |
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Post by amyghost on Nov 20, 2024 15:03:46 GMT
Can't be done. Re-plumbing on that scale is not feasible. You'd have to tear up the floors and chisel through concrete on a ludicrous scale. And even if it were, that would lead to less toilets total. And finally, the costs is ridiculous since we have a solution. Just keep the bathrooms segregated by sex. It's very common in the UK - it can be done. Anyway, I thought you guys were AmeriCANS, not AmeriCAN'TS. As you probably just noticed, we're a land of AmeriCHUDS. Anything that takes away the infantiles list of crap to whine about, feel persecuted over, and spend their waking (and probably dreaming) hours believing themselves to be 'threatened' by constitutes a problem that cannot be fixed except by more heaping applications of God, Jesus and Penal Law, otherwise what would the infantiles whine about, feel persecuted over, etc., etc. You get the picture. And if you go and fix that issue in a commonsense way, they're gonna hafta find a whole 'nother set of witches to burn and that gets tiring for a bunch of overweight, out-of-shape, sedentary, easily winded White guys. |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Nov 20, 2024 15:03:49 GMT
What's the law? To leave it alone? The law should require building operators to get rid of that paint. Must be different where you are if the law prevents bathroom renovations. You can't leave it alone if you are bursting up the floors. The law is such that anything that disturbs lead paint makes renovations impossible from a cost standpoint. www.epa.gov/lead/lead-laws-and-regulationsThanks. Solution - change all of the restrooms to what I suggested from the 1st floor up (where the floors are easy to lift) and leave the ground floor restrooms (on top of the concrete foundation) as is. Anyone on the ground floor who wants a private cubicle can go up one floor. |
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Post by 🐕 🐕 🐕 🐕 🐕 🐈⬛ Molly on Nov 20, 2024 15:05:35 GMT
You can't leave it alone if you are bursting up the floors. The law is such that anything that disturbs lead paint makes renovations impossible from a cost standpoint. www.epa.gov/lead/lead-laws-and-regulationsThanks. Solution - change all of the restrooms to what I suggested from the 1st floor up (where the floors are easy to lift) and leave the ground floor restrooms (on top of the concrete foundation) as is. Anyone on the ground floor who wants a private cubicle can go up one floor. It’s really not that difficult. The office building I work in renovated the women’s restrooms to build more stalls. It wasn’t an issue. |
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Post by cat on Nov 20, 2024 15:43:10 GMT
What's the law? To leave it alone? The law should require building operators to get rid of that paint. Must be different where you are if the law prevents bathroom renovations. You can't leave it alone if you are bursting up the floors. The law is such that anything that disturbs lead paint makes renovations impossible from a cost standpoint. www.epa.gov/lead/lead-laws-and-regulationsWhen Americans wanted blacks and whites segregated by bathrooms and fountains they made it work. Lead paint is not the issue. |
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Post by Based Chad on Nov 20, 2024 15:53:42 GMT
You can't leave it alone if you are bursting up the floors. The law is such that anything that disturbs lead paint makes renovations impossible from a cost standpoint. www.epa.gov/lead/lead-laws-and-regulationsWhen Americans wanted blacks and whites segregated by bathrooms and fountains they made it work. Lead paint is not the issue. Lead paint wasn't outlawed until 1978, well after segregation ended. |
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Post by cat on Nov 20, 2024 15:55:21 GMT
When Americans wanted blacks and whites segregated by bathrooms and fountains they made it work. Lead paint is not the issue. Lead paint wasn't outlawed until 1978, well after segregation ended. It's still a poor excuse. If it were so desired, they would figure out a way to make it work. You can't carve faces into mountains but stop at figuring out bathrooms. |
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Post by Based Chad on Nov 20, 2024 15:58:23 GMT
Lead paint wasn't outlawed until 1978, well after segregation ended. It's still a poor excuse. If it were so desired, they would figure out a way to make it work. You can't carve faces into mountains but stop at figuring out bathrooms. You may not have noticed this, but the monuments at Mt Rushmore and at Stone Mountain are controversial today. But anyways, there's not reason for such a monumental project at the expense of tax payers that only benefits one person who more than likely is going to turn around and demand to use the bathroom with other females anyways. |
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Post by phludowin on Nov 20, 2024 16:07:15 GMT
Easy solution - convert the restrooms so each cubicle is a self-contained unit (mini room) with toilet, sink, dryer and mirror. Remove all of the communal stuff like the sinks outside the cubicles. Done. That would also be my preferred solution. I would still keep one or two communal sinks outside the cubicles, for people who just want to wash their hands. The reason it's not done, I guess, is that such restrooms take up more space and are more expensive. This may be one instance where market economy has failed. |
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Post by cat on Nov 20, 2024 16:08:06 GMT
It's still a poor excuse. If it were so desired, they would figure out a way to make it work. You can't carve faces into mountains but stop at figuring out bathrooms. You may not have noticed this, but the monuments at Mt Rushmore and at Stone Mountain are controversial today. But anyways, there's not reason for such a monumental project at the expense of tax payers that only benefits one person who more than likely is going to turn around and demand to use the bathroom with other females anyways. It's the technical feat that piques my interest. At the expense of tax payers? Are trans people not tax payers? At any rate, I don't disagree that a separate bathroom doesn't resolve the equity component. They might as well make the bathrooms gender inclusive. |
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