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Post by Jep Gambardella on Nov 22, 2024 20:05:07 GMT
The ones in Europe are. The ones here in Canada are. I am not making up or imagining things. Here it is not Christians pushing for prayer in public schools. It is Muslims in areas of the big cities with a large Muslim population. It is not Christians parading in the streets of European capitals with signs calling for the beheading of those who disrespect Christ or Christianity. What percentage of Muslims in Canada are a terrorist threat? You must have that handy from some source since like you just said you're not making anything up here, right? Do you think the Muslim population in USA should be discriminated against? Are you in favor of a hate crime against any random Muslim at all even if it's an innocent person who hasn't done anything to deserve that? Again, I am not talking about terrorism. What I said is that the rapidly-growing Muslim population in Europe and in Canada is a threat to little things like GENDER EQUALITY, NO PRAYER IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS, NO BLASPHEMY LAWS and, in the long term, the survival of liberal democracy. No, the Muslim population in the USA, or in Canada, or in Europe, should most definitely NOT be discriminated against. Hate crimes should NOT be committed against them. All I want is for Canada and Europe to institute a new immigration policy that bars Muslims from applying. It doesn’t have to be forever, the policy can be reviewed in 200 years if they managed to reform their religion by then. |
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Post by Dracula on Nov 22, 2024 20:21:44 GMT
What percentage of Muslims in Canada are a terrorist threat? You must have that handy from some source since like you just said you're not making anything up here, right? Do you think the Muslim population in USA should be discriminated against? Are you in favor of a hate crime against any random Muslim at all even if it's an innocent person who hasn't done anything to deserve that? Again, I am not talking about terrorism. What I said is that the rapidly-growing Muslim population in Europe and in Canada is a threat to little things like GENDER EQUALITY, NO PRAYER IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS, NO BLASPHEMY LAWS and, in the long term, the survival of liberal democracy. No, the Muslim population in the USA, or in Canada, or in Europe, should most definitely NOT be discriminated against. Hate crimes should NOT be committed against them. All I want is for Canada and Europe to institute a new immigration policy that bars Muslims from applying. It doesn’t have to be forever, the policy can be reviewed in 200 years if they managed to reform their religion by then. How are they a threat to any of that? Based on what evidence? So you're against discriminating against Muslims in USA or Canada, but you'd like the message to be sent out that it's a bad idea to have more of "their kind." Do you get why that message results in even the Muslims you're saying that shouldn't be discriminated against, being discriminated against anyway? |
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Post by amyghost on Nov 22, 2024 20:32:19 GMT
Says the idiot who claims to be a university graduate, yet has apparently never read even a fifth-grader textbook on American history.
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Post by Based Chad on Nov 22, 2024 20:36:26 GMT
Says the idiot who claims to be a university graduate, yet has apparently never read even a fifth-grader textbook on American history. Aw, is the grumpy antisocial atheist too dumb to discuss the topic so instead they sling personal insults at me yet again? How pathetic. Maybe you could find a forum for people with learning disabilities where you , paul, and Dracula would feel more at home? |
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Post by Based Chad on Nov 22, 2024 20:51:53 GMT
Again, I am not talking about terrorism. What I said is that the rapidly-growing Muslim population in Europe and in Canada is a threat to little things like GENDER EQUALITY, NO PRAYER IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS, NO BLASPHEMY LAWS and, in the long term, the survival of liberal democracy. No, the Muslim population in the USA, or in Canada, or in Europe, should most definitely NOT be discriminated against. Hate crimes should NOT be committed against them. All I want is for Canada and Europe to institute a new immigration policy that bars Muslims from applying. It doesn’t have to be forever, the policy can be reviewed in 200 years if they managed to reform their religion by then. How are they a threat to any of that? Based on what evidence? Based on their own words, like the ones in the OP. I'm sad that your reading comprehension is this bad. Have you even read a single post he wrote in this thread? |
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Post by Dracula on Nov 22, 2024 21:22:04 GMT
Based on their own words, like the ones in the OP. I'm sad that your reading comprehension is this bad. Or maybe logic is not your strong point. Are you saying the OP is evidence that anyone at all in the USA for merely being Muslim should be regarded as a terrible person and be discriminated against? |
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Post by Swimm on Nov 22, 2024 21:24:51 GMT
Why do you hate religion? ^Says the lady whining about Christians all the time. 😂 Like how can one person be so retardedly unaware and stupid? |
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Post by Swimm on Nov 22, 2024 21:26:03 GMT
So your message is "bigotry is RIGHT!" and Americans should go ahead and be bigoted toward roughly 4 million Muslims living in the U.S. who are mostly law-abiding hardworking citizens and who already face a disproportionate amount of discrimination and hate crimes? Their religion should be mocked and ridiculed. |
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Nov 22, 2024 21:27:52 GMT
Again, I am not talking about terrorism. What I said is that the rapidly-growing Muslim population in Europe and in Canada is a threat to little things like GENDER EQUALITY, NO PRAYER IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS, NO BLASPHEMY LAWS and, in the long term, the survival of liberal democracy. No, the Muslim population in the USA, or in Canada, or in Europe, should most definitely NOT be discriminated against. Hate crimes should NOT be committed against them. All I want is for Canada and Europe to institute a new immigration policy that bars Muslims from applying. It doesn’t have to be forever, the policy can be reviewed in 200 years if they managed to reform their religion by then. How are they a threat to any of that? Based on what evidence? So you're against discriminating against Muslims in USA or Canada, but you'd like the message to be sent out that it's a bad idea to have more of "their kind." Do you get why that message results in even the Muslims you're saying that shouldn't be discriminated against, being discriminated against anyway? Based on news I see about public schools in areas with a heavy Muslim population in Montreal and Toronto quietly allowing Friday prayers. For now the government puts a stop to it when it hits the news, but as the percentage of Muslim students keeps growing will the government still be willing and able to block it ten years from now? Based on the increasing frequency of seeing women with their faces covered in the streets of my city. Maybe you find tolerable the belief that only a woman’s owner may see her face. I don’t. Based on countless well-documented cases of radical preachers spreading the vile Wahhabi ideology in several countries, like the one in my OP and the one in the Twitter video on the first page of the thread. Based on an interview I read with a French Muslim leader during my first visit to France 35 years ago where he said very clearly and unequivocally that France would become an Islamic republic in the course of the 21st century. Maybe you want to give the benefit of the doubt to people who say openly that they want to kill you; I don’t. I do realise that it is a short step between what I am saying and politicians like Marine Le Pen and her supporters suddenly deciding that even third-generation French Muslims shouldn’t be in the country. That is indeed a potential problem. |
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Post by Dracula on Nov 22, 2024 21:30:59 GMT
So your message is "bigotry is RIGHT!" and Americans should go ahead and be bigoted toward roughly 4 million Muslims living in the U.S. who are mostly law-abiding hardworking citizens and who already face a disproportionate amount of discrimination and hate crimes? Their religion should be mocked and ridiculed. Thank you Captain Obvious. I've only been saying since forever that all religion, Islam included, is bullshit. This has nothing to do with me defending any religion. |
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Post by Based Chad on Nov 22, 2024 21:37:03 GMT
Their religion should be mocked and ridiculed. Thank you Captain Obvious. I've only been saying since forever that all religion, Islam included, is bullshit. This has nothing to do with me defending any religion. Go proclaim that on a street corner in Paris and see what happens. |
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Post by Swimm on Nov 22, 2024 21:40:34 GMT
Their religion should be mocked and ridiculed. Thank you Captain Obvious. I've only been saying since forever that all religion, Islam included, is bullshit. This has nothing to do with me defending any religion. The whole point of using the term Islamophobia is to shut down criticism of Islam. Funny how only this religion gets branded with this word to protect it. A phobia obviously implies an irrational fear of something. This would imply there is no real threat from Islam and this is false. Its a threat to western society. One that will in the coming decades become an existential threat to Europe when the Muslims population swells. |
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Post by OfUnknownOrigins on Nov 22, 2024 21:46:08 GMT
How are they a threat to any of that? Based on what evidence? So you're against discriminating against Muslims in USA or Canada, but you'd like the message to be sent out that it's a bad idea to have more of "their kind." Do you get why that message results in even the Muslims you're saying that shouldn't be discriminated against, being discriminated against anyway? Based on news I see about public schools in areas with a heavy Muslim population in Montreal and Toronto quietly allowing Friday prayers. For now the government puts a stop to it when it hits the news, but as the percentage of Muslim students keeps growing will the government still be willing and able to block it ten years from now? Based on the increasing frequency of seeing women with their faces covered in the streets of my city. Maybe you find tolerable the belief that only a woman’s owner may see her face. I don’t. Based on countless well-documented cases of radical preachers spreading the vile Wahhabi ideology in several countries, like the one in my OP and the one in the Twitter video on the first page of the thread. Based on an interview I read with a French Muslim leader during my first visit to France 35 years ago where he said very clearly and unequivocally that France would become an Islamic republic in the course of the 21st century. Maybe you want to give the benefit of the doubt to people who say openly that they want to kill you; I don’t. I do realise that it is a short step between what I am saying and politicians like Marine Le Pen and her supporters suddenly deciding that even third-generation French Muslims shouldn’t be in the country. That is indeed a potential problem. If one looks at the recent history of Lebanon you can see how an influx of Muslims eventually destroys a society once they reach a tipping point. Lebanon wouldn’t be a mess if it was still majority Christian like it was until the 70s. |
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Post by Dracula on Nov 22, 2024 22:24:17 GMT
How are they a threat to any of that? Based on what evidence? So you're against discriminating against Muslims in USA or Canada, but you'd like the message to be sent out that it's a bad idea to have more of "their kind." Do you get why that message results in even the Muslims you're saying that shouldn't be discriminated against, being discriminated against anyway? Based on news I see about public schools in areas with a heavy Muslim population in Montreal and Toronto quietly allowing Friday prayers. For now the government puts a stop to it when it hits the news, but as the percentage of Muslim students keeps growing will the government still be willing and able to block it ten years from now? Based on the increasing frequency of seeing women with their faces covered in the streets of my city. Maybe you find tolerable the belief that only a woman’s owner may see her face. I don’t. Based on countless well-documented cases of radical preachers spreading the vile Wahhabi ideology in several countries, like the one in my OP and the one in the Twitter video on the first page of the thread. Based on an interview I read with a French Muslim leader during my first visit to France 35 years ago where he said very clearly and unequivocally that France would become an Islamic republic in the course of the 21st century. Maybe you want to give the benefit of the doubt to people who say openly that they want to kill you; I don’t. I do realise that it is a short step between what I am saying and politicians like Marine Le Pen and her supporters suddenly deciding that even third-generation French Muslims shouldn’t be in the country. That is indeed a potential problem. That's what I suspected, no statistics to back your generalization, but a bias you already have about an entire group justified with any cherry-picked news story about this or that Muslim, if it's even that. What story about "quietly allowing Friday prayers" in public schools are you talking about? As for some women covering themselves, some might wear a niqab as an expression of their identity, in my opinion silly, but not necessarily anything to do with having an "owner" as the only person who should see them, nor are they harming or threatening anyone by doing that any more than someone with weird hair, and it's just their business. My hunch though is you rarely even see this, but it makes a huge impact when you do. |
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Nov 22, 2024 22:36:24 GMT
Based on news I see about public schools in areas with a heavy Muslim population in Montreal and Toronto quietly allowing Friday prayers. For now the government puts a stop to it when it hits the news, but as the percentage of Muslim students keeps growing will the government still be willing and able to block it ten years from now? Based on the increasing frequency of seeing women with their faces covered in the streets of my city. Maybe you find tolerable the belief that only a woman’s owner may see her face. I don’t. Based on countless well-documented cases of radical preachers spreading the vile Wahhabi ideology in several countries, like the one in my OP and the one in the Twitter video on the first page of the thread. Based on an interview I read with a French Muslim leader during my first visit to France 35 years ago where he said very clearly and unequivocally that France would become an Islamic republic in the course of the 21st century. Maybe you want to give the benefit of the doubt to people who say openly that they want to kill you; I don’t. I do realise that it is a short step between what I am saying and politicians like Marine Le Pen and her supporters suddenly deciding that even third-generation French Muslims shouldn’t be in the country. That is indeed a potential problem. That's what I suspected, no statistics to back your generalization, but a bias you already have about an entire group justified with any cherry-picked news story about this or that Muslim, if it's even that. What story about "quietly allowing Friday prayers" in public schools are you talking about? As for some women covering themselves, some might wear a niqab as an expression of their identity, in my opinion silly, but not necessarily anything to do with having an "owner" as the only person who should see them, nor are they harming or threatening anyone by doing that any more than someone with weird hair, and it's just their business. My hunch though is you rarely even see this, but it makes a huge impact when you do. This news story for example: imdb1.freeforums.net/thread/27280/islamic-prayer-spaces-public-schoolsI don't fucking care about niqab wearers "expressing their identity". ZERO tolerance for the utterly abhorrent notion that women should never show their faces in public. As simple as that. Wearing a niqab should be grounds for immediate deportation. |
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