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Post by yggdrasil on Sept 16, 2020 12:39:37 GMT
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Sept 16, 2020 16:37:40 GMT
Except that photo of Johnson is not him looking at Miliband, who is at the same level as him at the despatch box. That photo is Johnson looking up at one the TV monitors high on the wall - a totally different occasion, I would think.
But, keep spreading deceitful nonsense if you wish, truth is opt-in these days.
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Post by yggdrasil on Sept 16, 2020 17:23:35 GMT
I watched the speech live and can tell you it is from when Milliband was talking. I'm sure it's available still to watch. See for yourself, it is a pretty damning speech.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Sept 16, 2020 20:01:06 GMT
I watched the speech live and can tell you it is from when Milliband was talking. I'm sure it's available still to watch. See for yourself, it is a pretty damning speech. Should be easy for you to post a link to back up your claim, then. Till then, I will say that there is no way Boris would be craning his head back so much when Miliband is at the same level as him. Doesn't make any sense. Here's a screenshot from the video in the article you posted: Given they are at the same level, do you really think that your picture with him looking so sharply upwards is from the speech you claim it is? It makes zero sense. What does make sense, if you have watched this stuff on TV, you will know that high up on the wall behind Miliband is a TV for remote MPs to video call in. That's what Boris is looking at, from a totally different time. Prove me wrong....
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Post by yggdrasil on Sept 17, 2020 9:14:11 GMT
I watched the speech live and can tell you it is from when Milliband was talking. I'm sure it's available still to watch. See for yourself, it is a pretty damning speech. Should be easy for you to post a link to back up your claim, then. Till then, I will say that there is no way Boris would be craning his head back so much when Miliband is at the same level as him. Doesn't make any sense. Here's a screenshot from the video in the article you posted: Given they are at the same level, do you really think that your picture with him looking so sharply upwards is from the speech you claim it is? It makes zero sense. What does make sense, if you have watched this stuff on TV, you will know that high up on the wall behind Miliband is a TV for remote MPs to video call in. That's what Boris is looking at, from a totally different time. Prove me wrong.... I said the picture of Boris was from when Milliband was making his speech, who knows what he was looking at?
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Sept 17, 2020 12:56:11 GMT
I said the picture of Boris was from when Milliband was making his speech, who knows what he was looking at? Yes, I understood what you said, and I'm saying I bet it isn't and asking you to support your statement with a picture that includes Miliband instead of one posted from a completely different source (the Mirror) to the article (the Independent). Any reason you did that...? (Curious also how they've cropped the picture at the exact place where it cuts out his tie.... different coloured tie, perhaps...?)
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Post by Power Ranger on Sept 17, 2020 13:30:14 GMT
Except that photo of Johnson is not him looking at Miliband, who is at the same level as him at the despatch box. That photo is Johnson looking up at one the TV monitors high on the wall - a totally different occasion, I would think. But, keep spreading deceitful nonsense if you wish, truth is opt-in these days. And a still shot can mean absolutely nothing. BJ may have been laughing at the time.
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Post by yggdrasil on Sept 17, 2020 13:38:36 GMT
I watched the speech live and can tell you it is from when Milliband was talking. I'm sure it's available still to watch. See for yourself, it is a pretty damning speech. Should be easy for you to post a link to back up your claim, then. Till then, I will say that there is no way Boris would be craning his head back so much when Miliband is at the same level as him. Doesn't make any sense. Here's a screenshot from the video in the article you posted: Given they are at the same level, do you really think that your picture with him looking so sharply upwards is from the speech you claim it is? It makes zero sense. What does make sense, if you have watched this stuff on TV, you will know that high up on the wall behind Miliband is a TV for remote MPs to video call in. That's what Boris is looking at, from a totally different time. Prove me wrong.... www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/heres-how-boris-johnson-reacted-to-ed-milibands-speech/15/09/Waits for more goal post moving...
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Sept 18, 2020 6:49:13 GMT
Ah, finally we have the full picture. (By the way, given I didn't make any claims, just doubted yours, I can't have planted any goalposts so I can't be moving any.) Reaction 1: Probably still listening. Reaction 2: Completely bored. Reaction 3: "What a dickhead you are, Miliband." Reaction 4: "Oh my god, how long is this guy going to go on for?" Now I know you want to single out the final image (and zoom in for dramatic effect) to make out it's a look of fear or being destroyed, but in context, it's clear it's a look of abject boredom. Complete and utter disinterest and probably looking at the TV like I said (it is a Miliband speech, after all).
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Post by yggdrasil on Sept 18, 2020 8:15:32 GMT
Ah, finally we have the full picture. (By the way, given I didn't make any claims, just doubted yours, I can't have planted any goalposts so I can't be moving any.) Reaction 1: Probably still listening. Reaction 2: Completely bored. Reaction 3: "What a dickhead you are, Miliband." Reaction 4: "Oh my god, how long is this guy going to go on for?" Now I know you want to single out the final image (and zoom in for dramatic effect) to make out it's a look of fear or being destroyed, but in context, it's clear it's a look of abject boredom. Complete and utter disinterest and probably looking at the TV like I said (it is a Miliband speech, after all). The Monkey way of admitting he was wrong. Apology accepted.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Sept 19, 2020 7:41:58 GMT
The Monkey way of admitting he was wrong. Apology accepted. The only one wrong is you with your nonsense about 'humiliation' - Boris's reactions are hilarious and you can't even see it.
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Post by yggdrasil on Sept 19, 2020 11:24:49 GMT
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Sept 19, 2020 11:32:44 GMT
Ha, I have zero awe, as I have made clear on here for the last few months. (Still, this thread does seem to be your mis-truths thread for the week.) (Or one of, heh heh.) I want him gone as soon as Brexit is done. His last PMQ's on Wednesday was atrocious. Even the accent-impaired Angela Rayner had him sputtering and um, um, umming through most of it.
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Post by yggdrasil on Sept 19, 2020 12:20:05 GMT
Ha, I have zero awe, as I have made clear on here for the last few months. (Still, this thread does seem to be your mis-truths thread for the week.) (Or one of, heh heh.) I want him gone as soon as Brexit is done. His last PMQ's on Wednesday was atrocious. Even the accent-impaired Angela Rayner had him sputtering and um, um, umming through most of it. He has to be the worst PM in living memory which does rather surprise me. After the stint running London I would have expected a better class of waffling but the umming is frankly becoming a cliche every time he speaks. Putting your bias to one side would you agree this is the least talented cabinet in memory. Handcock, Williamson, Buckland, Gove, Patel, Eustice, Shapps, Dowden etc? Only Rabb stands out as having any real gravitas, and that's faint praise.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Sept 19, 2020 21:59:40 GMT
He has to be the worst PM in living memory which does rather surprise me. After the stint running London I would have expected a better class of waffling but the umming is frankly becoming a cliche every time he speaks. Putting your bias to one side would you agree this is the least talented cabinet in memory. Handcock, Williamson, Buckland, Gove, Patel, Eustice, Shapps, Dowden etc? Only Rabb stands out as having any real gravitas, and that's faint praise. Probably - he's surrounded himself with too many public schoolboys who are clueless about real life and how to sort things out.
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