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Post by Winter_King on Apr 10, 2023 9:19:25 GMT
By not that long ago, I assume you mean in geological terms. Because we're talking at least 2 millions years ago.
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Piri Reis Map of 1513?
From what I recall, the Piri Reis map supposedly shows green Antarctica, not green Greenland. (Bastard Vikings discovered Greenland and Iceland and trolled the rest of the world by naming the green land Iceland and the iceland Greenland) |
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Post by Winter_King on Apr 10, 2023 9:20:11 GMT
By not that long ago, I assume you mean in geological terms. Because we're talking at least 2 millions years ago. Greenland had a vibrant culture until the Little Ice Age started. 700 years ago or so But it was still covered in ice. |
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 10, 2023 9:24:02 GMT
From what I recall, the Piri Reis map supposedly shows green Antarctica, not green Greenland. (Bastard Vikings discovered Greenland and Iceland and trolled the rest of the world by naming the green land Iceland and the iceland Greenland)
I'm just throwing it into the context of a climate changing planet that had very different coastlines in the past.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Apr 10, 2023 9:26:18 GMT
By not that long ago, I assume you mean in geological terms. Because we're talking at least 2 millions years ago. Greenland had a vibrant culture until the Little Ice Age started. 700 years ago or so Woo hoo, only 700 years of Dead Earth!  |
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Post by Winter_King on Apr 10, 2023 9:29:21 GMT
From what I recall, the Piri Reis map supposedly shows green Antarctica, not green Greenland. (Bastard Vikings discovered Greenland and Iceland and trolled the rest of the world by naming the green land Iceland and the iceland Greenland)
I'm just throwing it into the context of a climate changing planet that had very different coastlines in the past.
The thing is, most experts disagree that the Piri Reis maps shows Antarctica because it's way up to the north and like Greenland, Antarctica has also been covered by ice for millions of years. |
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 10, 2023 9:35:10 GMT
I'm just throwing it into the context of a climate changing planet that had very different coastlines in the past.
The thing is, most experts disagree that the Piri Reis maps shows Antarctica because it's way up to the north and like Greenland, Antarctica has also been covered by ice for millions of years.
1. I just read a piece explaining that many maps were drawn with lands closer together so it could show their shorelines.......without so much water in between? or some such explanation
2. I've been instructed many times in the past that where I live had thousands of feet of ice on top of it. So luckily, the climate changed.........and left many cultures around the world with a similar 'great flood' story to tell.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Apr 10, 2023 9:36:16 GMT
One must bear in mind that some Viking king or other big-wig mis-sold Greenland to his population (including naming it that even though it was covered in ice) to get them to move there as he had bought a load of land or something.
Would not surprise me at all, therefore, if the map is a fake representation of what it actually was. Basically created by a salesman to sell it as a green land.
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Post by Winter_King on Apr 10, 2023 9:44:10 GMT
The thing is, most experts disagree that the Piri Reis maps shows Antarctica because it's way up to the north and like Greenland, Antarctica has also been covered by ice for millions of years.
1. I just read a piece explaining that many maps were drawn with lands closer together so it could show their shorelines.......without so much water in between? or some such explanation
2. I've been instructed many times in the past that where I live had thousands of feet of ice on top of it. So luckily, the climate changed.........and left many cultures around the world with a similar 'great flood' story to tell.
There was also the habbit of drawing a southern land in ancient maps. It usually shows as Terra Australis Icognita. The idea comes from Ptolemy, that since there is all this land in the northern hemisphere, there should be a land to the south to balance it. |
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Post by abbey1227 on Apr 10, 2023 9:47:05 GMT
1. I just read a piece explaining that many maps were drawn with lands closer together so it could show their shorelines.......without so much water in between? or some such explanation
2. I've been instructed many times in the past that where I live had thousands of feet of ice on top of it. So luckily, the climate changed.........and left many cultures around the world with a similar 'great flood' story to tell.
There was also the habbit of drawing a southern land in ancient maps. It usually shows as Terra Australis Icognita. The idea comes from Ptolemy, that since there is all this land in the northern hemisphere, there should be a land to the south to balance it.
I think you may have found a nice alias for ant-mac should he ever need a new ID or sock account
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Post by papamihel on Apr 10, 2023 10:33:47 GMT
Greenland had a vibrant culture until the Little Ice Age started. 700 years ago or so But it was still covered in ice. I'm sure parts of it were. But there is a bountiful archaeological evidence that it supported quite a biological diversity. There is no accident the Scandinavians settled there and stayed for several centuries |
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Post by Winter_King on Apr 10, 2023 10:42:15 GMT
But it was still covered in ice. But there is a bountiful archaeological evidence that it supported quite a biological diversity. There is no accident the Scandinavians settled there and stayed for several centuries I'd say most of it was. From what I can tell, when the first settlers came, the Greenland was already covered in a sheet of ice. There is indication that the first Scandinavians were sent there where they were banished and they called it Greenland in an attempt to attract other settlers. |
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Post by papamihel on Apr 10, 2023 10:53:21 GMT
I'm sure parts of it were.But there is a bountiful archaeological evidence that it supported quite a biological diversity. There is no accident the Scandinavians settled there and stayed for several centuries I'd say most of it was. From what I can tell, when the first settlers came, the Greenland was already covered in a sheet of ice. There is indication that the first Scandinavians were sent there where they were banished and they called it Greenland in an attempt to attract other settlers. The first settlers had been there long before the Northmen arrived. And banished people could rarely afford longships and personnel to build a viable settlement. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2023 11:28:08 GMT
The first settlers to Greenland came from the North American continent via Canada between 4000 and 5000 years ago.
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