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Post by SciFive on May 9, 2023 19:21:41 GMT
BDS is about bringing Israel down. It is antisemitism. Jews have invested trillions and trillions of dollars here over 160 years. Taking this away from the Jewish people would be what Nazi Germany did to Jewish wealth in the mid-20th Century. It will not happen again. You need to deal with the issue of the Palestinians. Israel is doing the same to them as anti-Semites did to the Jews. The Pals were allied with Hitler in WWII. They kill Jews every chance they get. Israel defends. It wasn’t possible in Europe in the 1940s but it’s possible now.
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Post by SciFive on May 9, 2023 19:27:11 GMT
There are 500 million fellow Arab Muslims who could give the Pals real help in Jordan.
The Saudis have said so.
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Post by PresArvid47 on May 9, 2023 20:32:40 GMT
Of course support for Palestine is not anti-Semitic. It's anti-Israel, anti-Zionist. Many Jews are anti-Israel and anti-Zionist.
Since when does Israel = Jewish?
If Israel is only Jewish, then methinks the Palestinians have good cause to say Israel is an apartheid state.
So you completely ignore the rights of Palestinians who have lived on the land for centuries? And if you don't, you're an anti-Semite? Bullshit.
"Since when does Israel = Jewish?" Isreali propagandist have been pushing that for years, hence they passed the Jewish nation state law that says only Jews have national rights.
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Post by PresArvid47 on May 9, 2023 20:39:48 GMT
BDS is about bringing Israel down. It is antisemitism. Jews have invested trillions and trillions of dollars here over 160 years. Taking this away from the Jewish people would be what Nazi Germany did to Jewish wealth in the mid-20th Century. It will not happen again. You need to deal with the issue of the Palestinians. Israel is doing the same to them as anti-Semites did to the Jews. She's telling half the truth, leadership of BDS doesn't want a Jewish or a Palestinian state, since both are exclusionary states. He has said: “A Jewish state in Palestine in any shape or form cannot but contravene the basic rights of the indigenous Palestinian population and perpetuate a system of racial discrimination that ought to be opposed categorically. Just as we would oppose a ‘Muslim state,’ or a ‘Christian state,’ or any kind of exclusionary state, definitely, most definitely, we oppose a Jewish state in any part of Palestine. No Palestinian, rational Palestinian, not a sell-out Palestinian, will ever accept a Jewish state in Palestine. Accepting modern-day Jewish-Israelis as equal citizens and full partners in building and developing a new shared society, free from all colonial subjugation and discrimination, as called for in the democratic state model, is the most magnanimous, rational offer any oppressed indigenous population can present to its oppressors. So don’t ask for more.”
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Post by SciFive on May 9, 2023 20:52:35 GMT
Show any Arab Muslim state that is completely western, which is what the BDS movement is lying about wanting.
Hamas is one of the top rulers and they say they were kill roughly a million Jews (i.e., all those capable of fighting).
They will let some Jews leave, but they will hold onto the educated Jews (who will not be allowed to leave).
Hamas will own all Jewish property that they find in Israel, if they win.
Westerners who side with these monsters are antisemitic or else totally delusional useful idiots.
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Post by SciFive on May 9, 2023 20:54:44 GMT
If the Palestinian leaders could run their areas like western democracies, they'd be doing it (to show the world that it's possible).
Mahmoud Abbas's first four year term as President is now in it's 19th year with no end in sight until he passes away.
No other national elections have happened among the Pals.
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Post by ayatollah on May 9, 2023 20:57:05 GMT
If the Palestinian leaders could run their areas like western democracies, they'd be doing it (to show the world that it's possible).
Mahmoud Abbas's first four year term as President is now in it's 19th year with no end in sight until he passes away.
No other national elections have happened among the Pals.
Western democracies are run low key fascists who hate their population, culture and national identity.
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Post by SciFive on May 9, 2023 21:15:22 GMT
The Jewish people have spent 160 years and trillions of dollars to rebuild a home where Jews could defend themselves.
Israel’s purpose was/is to save the Jewish people.
No one is going to take this investment away from the Jews.
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Post by PresArvid47 on May 10, 2023 0:32:38 GMT
If the Palestinian leaders could run their areas like western democracies, they'd be doing it (to show the world that it's possible).
Mahmoud Abbas's first four year term as President is now in it's 19th year with no end in sight until he passes away.
No other national elections have happened among the Pals.
Western democracies are run low key fascists who hate their population, culture and national identity. Very true, for example last year Abbas and his Palestinian Authority was all set to do new elections when the Isrealis asked to not go through with it. The PA agreed. And the US was also fine since Hamas was predicted to win such an election. I've said for long time Abbas and the PA serve Isreal far more than they serve the Palestinians.
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Post by SciFive on May 10, 2023 0:57:14 GMT
The Palestinian Authority pays people to murder Jews.
Abbas won’t hold elections because he would lose.
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Post by Prince Myshkin on May 10, 2023 2:20:11 GMT
You need to deal with the issue of the Palestinians. Israel is doing the same to them as anti-Semites did to the Jews. She's telling half the truth, leadership of BDS doesn't want a Jewish or a Palestinian state, since both are exclusionary states. He has said: “A Jewish state in Palestine in any shape or form cannot but contravene the basic rights of the indigenous Palestinian population and perpetuate a system of racial discrimination that ought to be opposed categorically. Just as we would oppose a ‘Muslim state,’ or a ‘Christian state,’ or any kind of exclusionary state, definitely, most definitely, we oppose a Jewish state in any part of Palestine. No Palestinian, rational Palestinian, not a sell-out Palestinian, will ever accept a Jewish state in Palestine. Accepting modern-day Jewish-Israelis as equal citizens and full partners in building and developing a new shared society, free from all colonial subjugation and discrimination, as called for in the democratic state model, is the most magnanimous, rational offer any oppressed indigenous population can present to its oppressors . So don’t ask for more.” I agree with the BDS guy 100%. I don't want the Israeli Jews kicked off their land either. We need one secular multi-ethnic multi-religious state.
How in hell is BDS anti-Semitic? It welcomes Jews as well.
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Post by Xeliou66 on May 10, 2023 2:29:01 GMT
She's telling half the truth, leadership of BDS doesn't want a Jewish or a Palestinian state, since both are exclusionary states. He has said: “A Jewish state in Palestine in any shape or form cannot but contravene the basic rights of the indigenous Palestinian population and perpetuate a system of racial discrimination that ought to be opposed categorically. Just as we would oppose a ‘Muslim state,’ or a ‘Christian state,’ or any kind of exclusionary state, definitely, most definitely, we oppose a Jewish state in any part of Palestine. No Palestinian, rational Palestinian, not a sell-out Palestinian, will ever accept a Jewish state in Palestine. Accepting modern-day Jewish-Israelis as equal citizens and full partners in building and developing a new shared society, free from all colonial subjugation and discrimination, as called for in the democratic state model, is the most magnanimous, rational offer any oppressed indigenous population can present to its oppressors . So don’t ask for more.” I agree with the BDS guy 100%. I don't want the Israeli Jews kicked off their land either. We need one secular multi-ethnic multi-religious state.
How in hell is BDS anti-Semitic? It welcomes Jews as well.
Zionists believe that not believing in a majority Jewish state in Palestine is anti Semitic, they weaponize the term against opponents of Zionist oppression. Zionists don’t want equality, they want Jewish supremacy, and anyone who doesn’t support Jewish supremacy they label an anti Semite.
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Post by PresArvid47 on May 10, 2023 2:41:17 GMT
She's telling half the truth, leadership of BDS doesn't want a Jewish or a Palestinian state, since both are exclusionary states. He has said: “A Jewish state in Palestine in any shape or form cannot but contravene the basic rights of the indigenous Palestinian population and perpetuate a system of racial discrimination that ought to be opposed categorically. Just as we would oppose a ‘Muslim state,’ or a ‘Christian state,’ or any kind of exclusionary state, definitely, most definitely, we oppose a Jewish state in any part of Palestine. No Palestinian, rational Palestinian, not a sell-out Palestinian, will ever accept a Jewish state in Palestine. Accepting modern-day Jewish-Israelis as equal citizens and full partners in building and developing a new shared society, free from all colonial subjugation and discrimination, as called for in the democratic state model, is the most magnanimous, rational offer any oppressed indigenous population can present to its oppressors . So don’t ask for more.” I agree with the BDS guy 100%. I don't want the Israeli Jews kicked off their land either. We need one secular multi-ethnic multi-religious state.
How in hell is BDS anti-Semitic? It welcomes Jews as well.
The Isreali-firsters have to twist what that man said but anyone who sees the full quote knows they are lying. Most of the American BDS leadership is Jewish.
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Post by SciFive on May 10, 2023 2:43:29 GMT
She's telling half the truth, leadership of BDS doesn't want a Jewish or a Palestinian state, since both are exclusionary states. He has said: “A Jewish state in Palestine in any shape or form cannot but contravene the basic rights of the indigenous Palestinian population and perpetuate a system of racial discrimination that ought to be opposed categorically. Just as we would oppose a ‘Muslim state,’ or a ‘Christian state,’ or any kind of exclusionary state, definitely, most definitely, we oppose a Jewish state in any part of Palestine. No Palestinian, rational Palestinian, not a sell-out Palestinian, will ever accept a Jewish state in Palestine. Accepting modern-day Jewish-Israelis as equal citizens and full partners in building and developing a new shared society, free from all colonial subjugation and discrimination, as called for in the democratic state model, is the most magnanimous, rational offer any oppressed indigenous population can present to its oppressors . So don’t ask for more.” I agree with the BDS guy 100%. I don't want the Israeli Jews kicked off their land either. We need one secular multi-ethnic multi-religious state.
How in hell is BDS anti-Semitic? It welcomes Jews as well.
Taking trillions of dollars of property from Jews who have spent 160 years building the Jewish state is similar to the theft of Jewish wealth by Nazi Germany. It will not happen. No fucking way. Whatever you think you “need”, get it elsewhere.
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Post by SciFive on May 10, 2023 2:51:19 GMT
Israel is already as multi-religion as it needs to be, anyway.
Israel stays.
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