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Post by Prince Myshkin on May 10, 2023 6:37:02 GMT
I agree with the BDS guy 100%. I don't want the Israeli Jews kicked off their land either. We need one secular multi-ethnic multi-religious state.
How in hell is BDS anti-Semitic? It welcomes Jews as well.
Taking trillions of dollars of property from Jews who have spent 160 years building the Jewish state is similar to the theft of Jewish wealth by Nazi Germany. It will not happen. No fucking way. Whatever you think you “need”, get it elsewhere. I see. So it's some hardline Jewish supremacist venture now?
And if the Palestinians "need" the land back on which they lived for centuries, you blame the Nazis?
Bullshit. The Palestinians are not culpable for the Holocaust. Carve Israel out of Germany. There's your "elsewhere".
Either the European Jewish immigrants share the land with the Palestinians who were there first, or you have no one else to blame for Hamas than yourselves.
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Post by SciFive on May 10, 2023 6:58:41 GMT
Taking trillions of dollars of property from Jews who have spent 160 years building the Jewish state is similar to the theft of Jewish wealth by Nazi Germany. It will not happen. No fucking way. Whatever you think you “need”, get it elsewhere. I see. So it's some hardline Jewish supremacist venture now? Like America's and Britain's hardline supremacist attitude when fighting against Nazi Germany.
Jews aren't going to surrender to Jew-killers any more than America or Britain did.
The Palestinians weren't in the Holy Land first. They speak a foreign language (Arabic) and celebrate a foreign religion (Islam).
Hebrew, the Hebrew alphabet and Judaism are native here. The Christians came forth from a Jew named Jesus.
Over half the Jews in Israel came from Jewish communities in the Middle East. They never lived in Europe.
Jews are not your slaves. We own the country here that we've been rebuilding for 160 years.
It's not Jewish supremacy. It's Jewish equality. We've deserved it all along and we'll settle for nothing less.
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Post by SciFive on May 10, 2023 7:00:58 GMT
This is why a Jewish state is necessary.
Israel will take care of Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Fatah.
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Post by SciFive on May 10, 2023 7:10:50 GMT
Kevin McCarthy torpedoes Rashida Tlaib's planned Nakba day event
Republican House Speaker blocks plans by progressive Democrat lawmaker to host anti-Israel event.
May 10, 2023
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) blocked plans by Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) to hold an event at the Capitol Building, partnering with anti-Israel organizations. condemning the establishment of the Jewish state as a "catastrophe."
McCarthy tweeted on Tuesday that the "Nakba Day" event - referring to the Arabic term for "disaster" - would not take place, replacing it with a bipartisan gathering marking the 75th anniversary of the US-Israel relationship.
"This event in the US Capitol is canceled. Instead, I will host a bipartisan discussion to honor the 75th anniversary of the US-Israel relationship.
Tlaib, a member of the far-left "Squad," had planned an event called "Nakba 75 & the Palestinian People," featuring nine anti-Israel groups at the Capitol Visitor Center on Wednesday.
McCarthy intervened, securing the venue for himself, thus blocking Tlaib's gathering.
McCarthy condemned the use of anti-Semitic tropes and reaffirmed his unwavering bipartisan support for Israel's right to self-determination and self-defense. One of the event's organizers, the Jewish Voice for Peace, is labeled as a "radical anti-Israel activist group" by the Anti-Defamation League, advocating for a complete boycott of Israel and even honoring convicted terrorists.
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Post by Prince Myshkin on May 10, 2023 7:21:07 GMT
I see. So it's some hardline Jewish supremacist venture now? Like America's and Britain's hardline supremacist attitude when fighting against Nazi Germany.
Jews aren't going to surrender to Jew-killers any more than America or Britain did.
The Palestinians weren't in the Holy Land first. They speak a foreign language (Arabic) and celebrate a foreign religion (Islam).
Hebrew, the Hebrew alphabet and Judaism are native here. The Christians came forth from a Jew named Jesus.
Over half the Jews in Israel came from Jewish communities in the Middle East. They never lived in Europe.
Jews are not your slaves. We own the country here that we've been rebuilding for 160 years.
It's not Jewish supremacy. It's Jewish equality. We've deserved it all along and we'll settle for nothing less.
Nah, you keep avoiding the issue. The Jew-killers were the Nazis. Address Germany. You take land from Palestinians because they're powerless third world brown-skinned people.
Why aren't you asking for part of Bavaria? I tell you why. Because Germany is too powerful and you can't take land from Germans. They still have power and they never paid for Holocaust.
So you expect poor Palestinian farmers to give you their land. And you herd Palestinians into concentration camps the way you were herded by the Nazis. You deserve someone else's land, huh?
Bottom line, stop asking the Palestinians to pay for the crimes of white European Nazis.
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Post by SciFive on May 10, 2023 7:23:47 GMT
Like America's and Britain's hardline supremacist attitude when fighting against Nazi Germany.
Jews aren't going to surrender to Jew-killers any more than America or Britain did.
The Palestinians weren't in the Holy Land first. They speak a foreign language (Arabic) and celebrate a foreign religion (Islam).
Hebrew, the Hebrew alphabet and Judaism are native here. The Christians came forth from a Jew named Jesus.
Over half the Jews in Israel came from Jewish communities in the Middle East. They never lived in Europe.
Jews are not your slaves. We own the country here that we've been rebuilding for 160 years.
It's not Jewish supremacy. It's Jewish equality. We've deserved it all along and we'll settle for nothing less.
Nah, you keep avoiding the issue. The Jew-killers were the Nazis.
The Palestinians were Hitler's allies in World War II. There are photographs of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem posing with Adolf Hitler who hosted the leader in Berlin himself.
The Arabs in the Holy Land have been killing Jews for over 160 years here.
Over half the Jews in Israel are brown-skinned Jews from the Middle East.
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Post by Prince Myshkin on May 10, 2023 7:31:00 GMT
Nah, you keep avoiding the issue. The Jew-killers were the Nazis.
The Palestinians were Hitler's allies in World War II. There are photographs of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem posing with Adolf Hitler who hosted the leader in Berlin himself.
The Arabs in the Holy Land have been killing Jews for over 160 years here.
Over half the Jews in Israel are brown-skinned Jews from the Middle East.
There were almost no Jews in the Holy Land 160 years ago. They arrived later.
Again, what the fuck does the Mufti of Jerusalem have to do with Palestinians who lost their land to Jewish immigrants?
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Post by SciFive on May 10, 2023 7:35:07 GMT
The Palestinians were Hitler's allies in World War II. There are photographs of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem posing with Adolf Hitler who hosted the leader in Berlin himself.
The Arabs in the Holy Land have been killing Jews for over 160 years here.
Over half the Jews in Israel are brown-skinned Jews from the Middle East.
Jews never left the Holy Land completely.
The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was the top Arab Muslim leader of the people who call themselves "Palestinians" today.
His family was related to Yassir Arafat.
Most of the European Jews were murdered in the Holocaust. Over half of the Jews in Israel today are brown-skinned Jews who never lived in Europe.
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Post by yggdrasil on May 10, 2023 8:40:19 GMT
Still wrong though, just weakens the fight against genuine anti-Semitism when stupid statements are made to try and silence criticism. It is genuine antisemitism to join another culture’s hateful intention to destroy the well-being of millions of Jews. BDS has the goal of bringing down the Jewish state. That is flat out antisemitism. Whoa, the actions of millions of people all around the world including many,many Jews to fight what they consider an ever more extreme (Ben Gvir proves that point) far right leaning Government is NOT anti-Semitism, that is your opinion (which you are completely entitled to) it is NOT "flat out anti-Semitism" If you can link to any statement where BDS directly claim their aim is to "bring down the Jewish state", rather than alter Israeli government policy then, please link to it, otherwise you have to admit that you are mistaking your opinion as fact.
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Post by SciFive on May 10, 2023 9:04:55 GMT
It is genuine antisemitism to join another culture’s hateful intention to destroy the well-being of millions of Jews. BDS has the goal of bringing down the Jewish state. That is flat out antisemitism. Whoa, the actions of millions of people all around the world including many,many Jews to fight what they consider an ever more extreme (Ben Gvir proves that point) far right leaning Government is NOT anti-Semitism, that is your opinion (which you are completely entitled to) it is NOT "flat out anti-Semitism" If you can link to any statement where BDS directly claim their aim is to "bring down the Jewish state", rather than alter Israeli government policy then, please link to it, otherwise you have to admit that you are mistaking your opinion as fact.I've already quoted a BDS co-founder (Omar Barghouti) saying that there will be no Zionist state (if they get their way).
This was quoted from a recorded verbal interview so it is on the record:
"International law and the right of return? There won't be any Zionist state like the one we speak about [in present-day Israel]. There will be two states: One democratic for all its citizens here [Palestine] and one democratic for all its citizens there [Israel]. The Palestinian minority will become a Palestinian majority of what is today called Israel."
This isn't the only example.
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Post by SciFive on May 10, 2023 9:10:40 GMT
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Post by SciFive on May 10, 2023 9:32:50 GMT
How generous of Israel’s wanna-be conquerors to offer “some sensitivity to the Jewish experience” after turning Jews into a minority in ex-Israel.
Could the stupid fucking bastards in the west who trust these people be any dumber if not just evil?
Nazi Germany said they were deporting Jews to work camps.
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Post by SciFive on May 10, 2023 9:33:49 GMT
The woke are fast asleep.
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Post by yggdrasil on May 10, 2023 15:25:54 GMT
Whoa, the actions of millions of people all around the world including many,many Jews to fight what they consider an ever more extreme (Ben Gvir proves that point) far right leaning Government is NOT anti-Semitism, that is your opinion (which you are completely entitled to) it is NOT "flat out anti-Semitism" If you can link to any statement where BDS directly claim their aim is to "bring down the Jewish state", rather than alter Israeli government policy then, please link to it, otherwise you have to admit that you are mistaking your opinion as fact.I've already quoted a BDS co-founder (Omar Barghouti) saying that there will be no Zionist state (if they get their way).
This was quoted from a recorded verbal interview so it is on the record:
"International law and the right of return? There won't be any Zionist state like the one we speak about [in present-day Israel]. There will be two states: One democratic for all its citizens here [Palestine] and one democratic for all its citizens there [Israel]. The Palestinian minority will become a Palestinian majority of what is today called Israel."
This isn't the only example.
I haven't read the whole thread only glimpsed it but didn't someone point out that you were cherry picking certain parts of a full quote to suit your argument? I'm sorry, but you will never convince me that Jews who are appalled by what the Governing party in Israel is currently doing and becoming are "anti-Semitic" or that those who are rightly appalled by the promotion of hate fuelled individuals like Gvir to positions of great power are either.
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Post by SciFive on May 10, 2023 15:33:31 GMT
I've already quoted a BDS co-founder (Omar Barghouti) saying that there will be no Zionist state (if they get their way).
This was quoted from a recorded verbal interview so it is on the record:
"International law and the right of return? There won't be any Zionist state like the one we speak about [in present-day Israel]. There will be two states: One democratic for all its citizens here [Palestine] and one democratic for all its citizens there [Israel]. The Palestinian minority will become a Palestinian majority of what is today called Israel."
This isn't the only example.
I haven't read the whole thread only glimpsed it but didn't someone point out that you were cherry picking certain parts of a full quote to suit your argument? No.
Omar Barghouti (BDS co-founder) has confirmed to the New York Times that he does not intend for a Jewish state to exist in "Palestine".
He talks down to Jews like western BDS supporters do (as if Jews are destined to get robbed like they were in Europe for a thousand years and then robbed again in WWII), but at no point does he say that a Jewish state will exist if he gets his way.
The lefties in Israel are trying to preserve the leftie-leftie-leftie-permanent-leftie Supreme Court that replaces their members with identical twin ideologists - who can blame them, though. It's the only power the lefties have in Israel.
They do not intend to live under an Arab Muslim state where Jews are the minority, though.
Do you read the news? Israel is fighting in Gaza and the left are supporting the Bibi-BenGvir-Smotrich government in this move.
Tel Aviv got bombed today, among other cities. The lefties are on Bibi's side.
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