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Post by merh on May 28, 2023 16:47:22 GMT
A lot of people claim it is to know Keep the copyright. Before the film started there was an ad pitching Little Mermaid product on screen. Free shipping over $75! They are all about product. Memorabilia. Like Trump & his endless scams Or preachers selling their magic healing water or whatnot. George Lucas bragged he made more off toy sales than Star Wars. That doesn't explain the Moana live action movie though. Like I said, it's hasn't even been 7 years since that released. And I agree, Disney is a bunch of whores. Big time. But they used to be original whores with talent. That is fading away quickly. And I just love that they're losing the controlling rights over their iconic characters. Like Winnie the Pooh for example. I'm sure it pissed them off big time when the Winnie the Pooh horror movie came out to a huge success at the box office worldwide. It is hard to say where the Moana remake came from. Johnson is pretty aggressive on projects.
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Post by merh on May 28, 2023 16:53:53 GMT
Disney didn't invent her....And she may be fictional, but so is Blade, shall we make him white? They tried to replace him with Ryan Reynolds and Jessica Beale, Adolf. Actually, Reynolds played one of my favorite character from Tomb of Dracula only wildly different. So yeah, disappointing, but King is Marvel's character to do with as they please. As one of I assume a handful of King's fans, I can enjoy the presentation or not. And hope if he is ever revisited, they do him justice.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on May 28, 2023 17:20:39 GMT
I stand by what I said on the Cleopatra thread. It wouldn't bother me a bit if she had been black, but she couldn't have been. She would have needed black ancestors for that, and she didn't have any. They're only changing her to black so they can push a modern political agenda of racial division. I don't remember participating in the Bond thread. Please post a link. If this is about James Bond being played by a non-white actor, I'll tell right now that I don't care. They can make him black, Pakistani, Chinese, or whatever (as long as he's suave and talks with a British accent). Getting the races reversed for historical figures bothers me more than fictional ones or that is just way more wrong. How ironic they have the ancestors of slaves playing slave owners in the play Hamilton. That is one reason why I will not see that POS. I don't get it where this bullshit woke need comes from or why it was started when everything was just fine and no one had a problem with how things were before. Now they have to have a token race in everything just to please, who exactly? Does anyone really care? The way thing are going they would put in a black and a hispanic in a remake of Birth of a Nation as Klan members Something about "The Little Mermaid" movie popped up on my computer yesterday, so it came as little surprise that this dumpster fire of a thread should start smoldering again. Of course, Shays would much prefer it if an innocent black guy were to get gunned down by ten big fat ugly racist white cops, but mermaids are all the poor slob has to work with right now.
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Post by ant-mac on May 28, 2023 17:23:38 GMT
Do I? Where did I say that? I simply asked a question about why MAGA supporters should be the only people to possibly have an issue with changes made in the remake of THE LITTLE MERMAID. Unfortunately, a question of clarification on a point of interest seems to have been misinterpreted as a statement of support for something else. PS - Is it so difficult to just read a post and take it literally at face value? PPS - I'm not familiar with the original folktale, I've not seen the original film and I've no interest in seeing the remake. PPPS - I was simply asking a question about an assumption I encountered and wished to get some further clarification on the matter. The original tale So Disney changed the story when they did it. Others were not enamored of Andersen's tale either. There have been many adaptations of the original story To be fair, it wasn't just MAGA who were bitching. It was the same sort of people who have been whining about any remaking of movies like Ghostbusters 2016. I was always taught these things are all adaptations. The Lord of the Rings movies so many love were adaptations of the books & did not cover everything the books did. Yet some out there complained about the Rings of Power adaptation that is exactly that-someone else presenting their idea of the story. Yet like this film, people were complaining without even seeing it. All one can do is see an adaptation or not. Once one sees it, one can agree with it or not. The maker has the right to make it. The viewer has the right to an opinion on the product if they see it. If not, one could say that is an opinion in itself, but they can't say good or bad. After I saw the film yesterday, I hit a Starbucks for a drink. The barista asked how my day was & I commented I had just seen the Little Mermaid & was feeling very positive because the film was much better than I expected & left me in a good mood. The woman(who was closer to my age than the usual barista) apologized & said she refused to see any of the remakes & hoped my day improved. As she handed me my drink & mentioned my alterations, she claimed there was rum in it. I thought this was a flavor syrup & said wait. She said it was a joke. Trying to make my day better when I had already said I had enjoyed the film. People. Don't care. The question I asked was related to a comment that could've applied to a whole host of films or TV shows. The fact that it just happened to be THE LITTLE MERMAID is basically inconsequential.
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Post by thorshairspray on May 28, 2023 20:15:30 GMT
The original tale So Disney changed the story when they did it. Others were not enamored of Andersen's tale either. There have been many adaptations of the original story To be fair, it wasn't just MAGA who were bitching. It was the same sort of people who have been whining about any remaking of movies like Ghostbusters 2016. I was always taught these things are all adaptations. The Lord of the Rings movies so many love were adaptations of the books & did not cover everything the books did. Yet some out there complained about the Rings of Power adaptation that is exactly that-someone else presenting their idea of the story. Yet like this film, people were complaining without even seeing it. All one can do is see an adaptation or not. Once one sees it, one can agree with it or not. The maker has the right to make it. The viewer has the right to an opinion on the product if they see it. If not, one could say that is an opinion in itself, but they can't say good or bad. After I saw the film yesterday, I hit a Starbucks for a drink. The barista asked how my day was & I commented I had just seen the Little Mermaid & was feeling very positive because the film was much better than I expected & left me in a good mood. The woman(who was closer to my age than the usual barista) apologized & said she refused to see any of the remakes & hoped my day improved. As she handed me my drink & mentioned my alterations, she claimed there was rum in it. I thought this was a flavor syrup & said wait. She said it was a joke. Trying to make my day better when I had already said I had enjoyed the film. People. Don't care. The question I asked was related to a comment that could've applied to a whole host of films or TV shows. The fact that it just happened to be THE LITTLE MERMAID is basically inconsequential. The thing is that the makers of these films inject their own politics into it, like Rings of Power. The fans object to this because we don't want people messing with the things we care about. They will then claim we are being political for objecting to their politics. You are making a film based on someone else's work. Respect that work or write your own. Its not hard.
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Post by ant-mac on May 28, 2023 20:28:43 GMT
Don't care. The question I asked was related to a comment that could've applied to a whole host of films or TV shows. The fact that it just happened to be THE LITTLE MERMAID is basically inconsequential. The thing is that the makers of these films inject their own politics into it, like Rings of Power. The fans object to this because we don't want people messing with the things we care about. They will then claim we are being political for objecting to their politics. You are making a film based on someone else's work. Respect that work or write your own. Its not hard. Personally, I care about canon, continuity and lore and I don't care about any passing political fads. My world of books, films and TV series is full of multicultural diversity and inclusion, but that doesn't mean you will find it present in every single book, film or TV series. In the same way that my country is multicultural, but that doesn't mean every private dwelling within it contains a cross section of multicultural residents.
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Post by theBROKEdontrump on May 28, 2023 20:29:49 GMT
Don't care. The question I asked was related to a comment that could've applied to a whole host of films or TV shows. The fact that it just happened to be THE LITTLE MERMAID is basically inconsequential. The thing is that the makers of these films inject their own politics into it, like Rings of Power. The fans object to this because we don't want people messing with the things we care about. They will then claim we are being political for objecting to their politics. You are making a film based on someone else's work. Respect that work or write your own. Its not hard. And what politics were injected into Rings of power?
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Post by thorshairspray on May 28, 2023 20:34:45 GMT
The thing is that the makers of these films inject their own politics into it, like Rings of Power. The fans object to this because we don't want people messing with the things we care about. They will then claim we are being political for objecting to their politics. You are making a film based on someone else's work. Respect that work or write your own. Its not hard. And what politics were injected into Rings of power? Intersectional feminism, pro immigration, white guilt, DEI
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Post by theBROKEdontrump on May 28, 2023 20:38:14 GMT
And what politics were injected into Rings of power? Intersectional feminism, pro immigration, white guilt, DEI That was your own inherent prejudices seeing that stuff....I just saw a poorly structured story with weak characters....
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Post by thorshairspray on May 28, 2023 21:13:40 GMT
Intersectional feminism, pro immigration, white guilt, DEI That was your own inherent prejudices seeing that stuff....I just saw a poorly structured story with weak characters.... No, it wasn't. Numenor didn't have a black queen and they were not concerned about immigrants taking their jobs. Elves are not black, neither are Hobbits or Dwarves. Galadriel wasn't a warrior.
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Post by theBROKEdontrump on May 28, 2023 21:15:27 GMT
That was your own inherent prejudices seeing that stuff....I just saw a poorly structured story with weak characters.... No, it wasn't. Numenor didn't have a black queen and they were not concerned about immigrants taking their jobs. Elves are not black, neither are Hobbits or Dwarves. Galadriel wasn't a warrior. To you and the other bigots whining about the series....the rest of us don't care.
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Post by thorshairspray on May 28, 2023 21:16:12 GMT
No, it wasn't. Numenor didn't have a black queen and they were not concerned about immigrants taking their jobs. Elves are not black, neither are Hobbits or Dwarves. Galadriel wasn't a warrior. To you and the other bigots whining about the series....the rest of us don't care. No, according to the Lore the series is based on.
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Post by merh on May 28, 2023 21:26:37 GMT
The original tale So Disney changed the story when they did it. Others were not enamored of Andersen's tale either. There have been many adaptations of the original story To be fair, it wasn't just MAGA who were bitching. It was the same sort of people who have been whining about any remaking of movies like Ghostbusters 2016. I was always taught these things are all adaptations. The Lord of the Rings movies so many love were adaptations of the books & did not cover everything the books did. Yet some out there complained about the Rings of Power adaptation that is exactly that-someone else presenting their idea of the story. Yet like this film, people were complaining without even seeing it. All one can do is see an adaptation or not. Once one sees it, one can agree with it or not. The maker has the right to make it. The viewer has the right to an opinion on the product if they see it. If not, one could say that is an opinion in itself, but they can't say good or bad. After I saw the film yesterday, I hit a Starbucks for a drink. The barista asked how my day was & I commented I had just seen the Little Mermaid & was feeling very positive because the film was much better than I expected & left me in a good mood. The woman(who was closer to my age than the usual barista) apologized & said she refused to see any of the remakes & hoped my day improved. As she handed me my drink & mentioned my alterations, she claimed there was rum in it. I thought this was a flavor syrup & said wait. She said it was a joke. Trying to make my day better when I had already said I had enjoyed the film. People. Don't care. The question I asked was related to a comment that could've applied to a whole host of films or TV shows. The fact that it just happened to be THE LITTLE MERMAID is basically inconsequential. The title is getting "review bombed", likely by the same crowd that trashed Ghostbusters 2016 & The Rings of Power. IMDb Ghostbusters 2016 It's a section of people out there that try to influence opinion.
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Post by thorshairspray on May 28, 2023 21:39:28 GMT
Don't care. The question I asked was related to a comment that could've applied to a whole host of films or TV shows. The fact that it just happened to be THE LITTLE MERMAID is basically inconsequential. The title is getting "review bombed", likely by the same crowd that trashed Ghostbusters 2016 & The Rings of Power. IMDb Ghostbusters 2016 It's a section of people out there that try to influence opinion. But the people giving it 10 are genuine?
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Post by peachy on May 28, 2023 21:40:28 GMT
It opens May 26th. What are you waiting for? Perhaps all of you are decompressing after the long hard fight over Cleopatra. Not saying your upcoming head explosions aren’t justified. After all, everybody knows mermaids are white. How many black versions of white people do you want to see?
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