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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 21:14:37 GMT
You sound very strongly about this.Have you ever been raped? No. I thought that 1 out of every 6 women have been raped or attempted raped. You can admit it if you did.
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Post by kls on Jan 21, 2018 21:17:00 GMT
I thought that 1 out of every 6 women have been raped or attempted raped. You can admit it if you did. The stats may be right. Sounds accurate. I have not been raped (or had an attempt made against me).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 21:17:50 GMT
technically a crime, but not officially. It all depends on whether she wants to press charges Of course how will anyone know? Its between the 2 of u unless you are dumb enough to do it with a witness. If she claims that she was not forced, even if she was at first- then in the eyes of the law there is no crime. You know how many people had this happen over the years and not only ended up dating but marrying and having kids and living happily ever after? 9 out of 10 women who are sexually assaulted over the years never had the rapist charged for many reasons. Were they raped? yes but if the justice system never finds out because the victim doesnt mention it.... no crime. "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" is a philosophical thought experiment that raises questions regarding observation and perception. As I said - DO NOT THINK ABOUT TRYING THIS. If you get caught, you deserve to be bubbas wife. If I say no I mean no. If I say yes I mean yes. Do you speak for all women? I had an ex who enjoyed rape role-play. She regularly said no but meant yes. My current girlfriend says no because she wants to play -- she wants to be antagonistic and make me work for it. I'm so bored of hearing that no means no. No, it doesn't. That is far too simplistic. Do you honestly believe that women don't occasionally want to... play? To be coy, coquettish and flirty but say no because they know it drives their man crazy and they want him to be more aggressive? To take what's his. To be animalistic. Why are we pretending this isn't a thing?
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Post by kls on Jan 21, 2018 21:23:28 GMT
If I say no I mean no. If I say yes I mean yes. Do you speak for all women? I had an ex who enjoyed rape role-play. She regularly said no but meant yes. My current girlfriend says no because she wants to play -- she wants to be antagonistic and make me work for it. I'm so bored of hearing that no means no. No, it doesn't. That is far too simplistic. Do you honestly believe that women don't occasionally want to... play? To be coy, coquettish and flirty but to say no because they know it drives their man crazy and they want him to be more aggressive? To take what's his. To be animalistic. Why are we pretending this isn't a thing? Nobody is pretending it isn't a thing some women are into. Don't be pretending it's something all women are into. Best be sure of the woman. Someone pulls that with me it's rape.
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Post by ayatollah on Jan 21, 2018 21:35:33 GMT
You'd have to ask her. If she says it's still rape then yes, it's still rape.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 21:37:33 GMT
Do you speak for all women? I had an ex who enjoyed rape role-play. She regularly said no but meant yes. My current girlfriend says no because she wants to play -- she wants to be antagonistic and make me work for it. I'm so bored of hearing that no means no. No, it doesn't. That is far too simplistic. Do you honestly believe that women don't occasionally want to... play? To be coy, coquettish and flirty but to say no because they know it drives their man crazy and they want him to be more aggressive? To take what's his. To be animalistic. Why are we pretending this isn't a thing? Nobody is pretending it isn't a thing some women are into. Don't be pretending it's something all women are into. Best be sure of the woman. Someone pulls that with me it's rape. I'm talking about established relationships. With strangers, it's obviously a greater risk. But sometimes even that can be achieved with some chemistry and understanding. Otherwise, forget it. But it happens a LOT.
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Post by kls on Jan 21, 2018 21:43:51 GMT
Nobody is pretending it isn't a thing some women are into. Don't be pretending it's something all women are into. Best be sure of the woman. Someone pulls that with me it's rape. I'm talking about established relationships. With strangers, it's obviously a greater risk. But sometimes even that can be achieved with some chemistry and understanding. Otherwise, forget it. But it happens a LOT. The only rape joke that made me laugh was on Dexter. Dexter had a female serial killer all set up on his kill table to dispatch and she goes on about oh no don't rape me. Dex is like "What's with you and rape? Nobody's raping anybody. Now killing on the other hand....." Role playing in a relationship isn't the meaning I got from your first post in the thread.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 22:06:11 GMT
I'm talking about established relationships. With strangers, it's obviously a greater risk. But sometimes even that can be achieved with some chemistry and understanding. Otherwise, forget it. But it happens a LOT. Role playing in a relationship isn't the meaning I got from your first post in the thread. Role-playing was in response to you saying no always meaning no. Two different discussions.
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Post by kls on Jan 21, 2018 22:08:54 GMT
Role playing in a relationship isn't the meaning I got from your first post in the thread. Role-playing was in response to you saying no always meaning no. Two different discussions. What I said before was when I say no I mean no. I wasn't talking about other people role playing and I didn't throw a word like always in the post at all to indicate I felt it was true even of other people role playing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 22:19:35 GMT
Role-playing was in response to you saying no always meaning no. Two different discussions. What I said before was when I say no I mean no. I wasn't talking about other people role playing and I didn't throw a word like always in the post at all to indicate I felt it was true even of other people role playing. You insinuated it applied to women beyond you (otherwise why bring it up at all?). It's demonstrably false. If it always means no to you then good luck to you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 22:21:38 GMT
Nobody is pretending it isn't a thing some women are into. Don't be pretending it's something all women are into. Best be sure of the woman. Someone pulls that with me it's rape. I'm talking about established relationships. With strangers, it's obviously a greater risk. But sometimes even that can be achieved with some chemistry and understanding. Otherwise, forget it. But it happens a LOT. Well i dont agree with you there. Most rapes occur with someone you know. I dont mean just date rape. Thats another reason why the victim refuses to have him charged Just about all of us are a product of rape centuries ago.Greeks, Romans, Carthagenians, Phoenicians,Huns,Goths. have done ALOT of rape just in the last 3000 years. Seriously. ALOT. What did you think Romans did when they conquered a people? Not to mention Britain- The reason why British women are not the most attractive in the world for the most part and Scandavian women are so god damn hot is because the Vikings would do hit and run raids and rape and kidnap all the hot women there and take them back home, at least before William the Conqueror changed the entire country in 1066. Dont get me wrong, the UK has bounced back in the 20th century but that pretty much why its the case but im just saying rape is a part of history. at least 1 of our maternal ancestors were raped to product one of ancestors. Its sucks but i can live with what happened to my ancestors.
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Post by kls on Jan 21, 2018 22:21:52 GMT
What I said before was when I say no I mean no. I wasn't talking about other people role playing and I didn't throw a word like always in the post at all to indicate I felt it was true even of other people role playing. You insinuated it applied to women beyond you (otherwise why bring it up at all?). It's demonstrably false. If it always means no to you then good luck to you. I insinuated nothing. You read more into the post than I said and had to change the words to make the claim about what you say I meant fit.
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Post by kls on Jan 21, 2018 22:38:19 GMT
Actually what would starts liking it have to do with role playing? She liked it all along if that was the plan and what she's into and wanted to do.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 22:45:07 GMT
Actually what would starts liking it have to do with role playing? She liked it all along if that was the plan and what she's into and wanted to do. Nothing. Try paying more attention. The OP is a separate discussion entirely. YOU later said no means no. No, it doesn't. The end.
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Post by kls on Jan 21, 2018 22:48:06 GMT
Actually what would starts liking it have to do with role playing? She liked it all along if that was the plan and what she's into and wanted to do. Nothing. Try paying more attention. The OP is a separate discussion entirely. YOU later said no means no. No, it doesn't. The end. I said when I say no I mean no. Is there a reason you insist on changing up my words?
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