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Post by ebuzzmiller on Jan 23, 2018 13:56:20 GMT
Rape is not a strong gender dynamic with dominant/submissive roles. Rape is the violent assault and abuse of a male to a woman. Healthy women may like a man who is strong, aggressive, dominate and takes initiative during sex. But no healthy woman wants to be raped, or pretend to be raped. And no healthy man wants to rape anybody. The emotional and psychological forces that urge a man to commit rape are not healthy. And the emotional, psychological and physical forces that urge a man to have sex with a healthy woman in any healthy relationship are nothing like those that urge a man to rape. Or a woman to be insulted, disrespected, injured or raped in any way. Of course they're healthy. All animals engage in sex that is essentially a form of rape due to the aggressive nature of the act but the females, despite this, are still submitting. It's an instinct to do so when they're in heat. They don't got a date first and get to know each other. It is a primal force that often involves an element of violence. I pity those who those lack that aggression in their sex life. Ignoring the animal nature of sex is why so many people have infantile hang-ups about it. Literally anything adults wants to do with each other is healthy if they both want it. And none of anyone else's business. Oh for fuck's sake. If your argument is saying that humans and lower evolved animals should have the same standards while ignoring higher brain function, then that is a pathetic argument. To make this kind of comparison is to in essence place humankind on the same level as lower functioning species. But hey go to town thinking that all ideas of sexual relations humankind has evolved and come to accept is in direct contradiction of nature if it helps you rationalize your perverted desires in your own mind. Just don't try and insert bullshit pseudo evolutionary biology into it. |
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Post by movieliker on Jan 23, 2018 17:28:08 GMT
I agree. I sense maybe the OP is immature and hedonistic. Hopefully as time passes, he will mature and realize that youthful passion is no substitute for wisdom. I suspect you are misogynist to assume what women and men enjoy is unhealthy. It isn't. Being a sexless, judgmental prick... is. You are the one suggesting some women enjoy being raped. I said rape was wrong. And now you are calling me a mysogynist? . . . Ha ha ha . . .Obviously --- among other things --- you don't know what the word mysogynist means . . . Ha ha ha . . . |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 18:46:56 GMT
Well, obviously. That was a given. Not clearly a given to you the way you couldn't seem to get when I explained when I say no I mean no. I mean that was a ridiculous exchange how many times we got into that. Yes, you ridiculously attempted to suggest that you didn't say 'always'. Even though you clearly meant always otherwise no means no... only sometimes. x_x |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 18:50:14 GMT
Of course they're healthy. All animals engage in sex that is essentially a form of rape due to the aggressive nature of the act but the females, despite this, are still submitting. It's an instinct to do so when they're in heat. They don't got a date first and get to know each other. It is a primal force that often involves an element of violence. I pity those who those lack that aggression in their sex life. Ignoring the animal nature of sex is why so many people have infantile hang-ups about it. Literally anything adults wants to do with each other is healthy if they both want it. And none of anyone else's business. Oh for fuck's sake. If your argument is saying that humans and lower evolved animals should have the same standards while ignoring higher brain function, then that is a pathetic argument. To make this kind of comparison is to in essence place humankind on the same level as lower functioning species. But hey go to town thinking that all ideas of sexual relations humankind has evolved and come to accept is in direct contradiction of nature if it helps you rationalize your perverted desires in your own mind. Just don't try and insert bullshit pseudo evolutionary biology into it. No, you retard, my argument is... just because things are unsavoury or unpalatable to you does not mean they are therefore unhealthy. Seemed pretty fucking obvious that's what I meant though. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 18:51:30 GMT
I suspect you are misogynist to assume what women and men enjoy is unhealthy. It isn't. Being a sexless, judgmental prick... is. You are the one suggesting some women enjoy being raped. I said rape was wrong. And now you are calling me a mysogynist? . . . Ha ha ha . . .Obviously --- among other things --- you don't know what the word mysogynist means . . . Ha ha ha . . . The desire to be raped is a common fantasy among women. That does not mean it's unhealthy or that they actually want to be raped; it means they're animals with animal desires that are complex and more importantly... none of your business. |
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Post by movieliker on Jan 23, 2018 19:12:42 GMT
You are the one suggesting some women enjoy being raped. I said rape was wrong. And now you are calling me a mysogynist? . . . Ha ha ha . . .Obviously --- among other things --- you don't know what the word mysogynist means . . . Ha ha ha . . . The desire to be raped is a common fantasy among women. That does not mean it's unhealthy or that they actually want to be raped; it means they're animals with animal desires that are complex and more importantly... none of your business. I have slept with many women in my lifetime. And never have I been with a woman who wanted to act out a rape fantasy. So, I do not think that is common. I am still single and sexually active. And still, no woman ask me to pretend to rape them. Maybe we just attract, or are attracted to different kinds of women. As long as your participation in rape fantasy is consensual, no crime is being committed. When I was younger, I used to love playing Grand Theft Auto. I never tried to win the game. I just loved to beat people up, steal their cars, and run people over and crash things. Murder and mayhem on a grand scale. I don't have any criminal record --- violent or not --- and I don't deserve one. I guess it was just violent fantasy and catharsis. A long as your rape fantasy reenactments are consensual and nobody gets hurt, maybe it is just fantasy and catharsis. I never said you were sick or unhealthy. I was only referring to violence, pain, and disrespect in general. As long as it is consensual and nobody gets hurt, it is legal. But often --- not always --- but often these fantasies lead to more extreme behavior. When that happens, the risk of breaking the law and somebody getting hurt or killed goes up. I am not passing judgement on you or your activities. I only stated facts that you and others should be aware of. If you and your friends are having fun --- good. I only hope that you remain informed and responsible when indulging in fun so that nobody gets hurt or killed. And so that you will hopefully be introspective concerning yourself, your activities and others. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 19:18:14 GMT
You are the one suggesting some women enjoy being raped. I said rape was wrong. And now you are calling me a mysogynist? . . . Ha ha ha . . .Obviously --- among other things --- you don't know what the word mysogynist means . . . Ha ha ha . . . The desire to be raped is a common fantasy among women. That does not mean it's unhealthy or that they actually want to be raped; it means they're animals with animal desires that are complex and more importantly... none of your business. Tortoise mating is pretty much rape ... no idea why. We are humans, not animals. We have self control. Enough of this thread. It makes no sense and im getting a trolling vibe here. We answered your question. Its a technical crime but not an official one to rape someone even if they enjoy it and obviously dont press charged later If you rape someone in front of an undercover cop or video and you can hear her say "No! STOP" You are gonna get arrested even if she tells the cops not to You would be a fool to do that. if you were in private? well it all depends on whether she wants to date you. You better hope so or else you are fked. Seriously, dont do it. Enough. I think you are getting off by some sick fantasy and you want permission to do this . Its obviously a gray area that could depend on which state or county you are in. Just stick to consensual sex if you know whats good for you, ok? You cant even rape a hooker unless she gets paid up front and is warned ahead of time that its a fantasy Rapists arent cool. |
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Post by kls on Jan 24, 2018 0:45:58 GMT
Not clearly a given to you the way you couldn't seem to get when I explained when I say no I mean no. I mean that was a ridiculous exchange how many times we got into that. Yes, you ridiculously attempted to suggest that you didn't say 'always'. Even though you clearly meant always otherwise no means no... only sometimes.  I clearly said and meant when I say no I mean no. When I say yes I mean yes. Out of curiosity-did anyone else reading this thread find that difficult to comprehend? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 0:53:02 GMT
Yes, you ridiculously attempted to suggest that you didn't say 'always'. Even though you clearly meant always otherwise no means no... only sometimes. I clearly said and meant when I say no I mean no. When I say yes I mean yes. Out of curiosity-did anyone else reading this thread find that difficult to comprehend? Yes, I too would like to know if anyone else understood "no means no" to be something that always means... no means no. Or just sometimes.  |
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