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Post by bartlesby on Oct 30, 2023 18:19:34 GMT
Yeah, amazing quick action by the trainer in that one. He saved his life. I can still see Malarchuk skating off the ice. With every heartbeat, a spray of blood shot out. All that red on that white ice
Same with Zednik though his injury wasn't nearly as bad.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2023 18:20:11 GMT
Pretty sure I'm the only person who's ever played ice hockey on this forum. Granted, it was just a beer league, but I'm an expert level skater having been trained to figure skate and break skate (breakdancing on roller skates). There's simply no way it wasn't deliberate. Sticking your leg that high is not normal motions, even for turning. Yes, figure skating may do it for aesthetics, but in hockey, you'd want to keep your center of gravity low to increase effectiveness...especially if you're trying to check a guy. It was deliberate. Hence why you very rarely see any dropkicks to the neck in hockey. Yeah, sure you have, Heretic. You've done literally everything on the planet to a high degree of mastery. I think he ate shit. I've watched it frame by frame several times now for this thread and it looks to me like he loses control. He also broke down in tears and seems to be completely destroyed by the entire thing, and on top of that, now he's getting hate from all over the world. But by all means, call the guy a fucking murderer because you're a pretend skater. I am a bit more adept than most. True. Breakskating is the only sport I have TV credits for, not counting the time that my high school baseball team went to state playoffs, but that's hardly the same thing. Yeah, he broke down in tears because he got caught. He's a trash human who killed a guy for no reason. -USA Hockey magazine. Notice, it talks about leaning in like I said to do and not about jump-kicking a dude in the neck because you hate him. icehockeyguide.com/body-checking-in-hockey/No hockey fan is going to think this isn't flagrant targeting and leaving feet violations. Thus, it's not a natural hockey move. It's deliberate.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Oct 30, 2023 18:21:51 GMT
Because you used the word deliberate implying he intentionally killed Johnson. He can’t be charged with murder if he didn’t mean to slice his throat. And the original OP certainly implied that because it’s in the title. It was accident as far as I can tell, not murder. It’s not going to end with Petgrave. The owners and managers are also responsible. I believe deliberate is more likely than accidental. But provable beyond reasonable doubt? No. Nothing is that. But why accuse of him murder if he didn’t do. There is no evidence he did. 2023 Sheffield, UK is not 1934 Maycomb, Alabama.
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Post by primethefirst on Oct 30, 2023 18:23:05 GMT
Just saw the video... And I wish I hadn't. Yeah that is how I watched after seeing a beheading video. It is better not to know.
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Post by bartlesby on Oct 30, 2023 18:29:19 GMT
Yeah, sure you have, Heretic. You've done literally everything on the planet to a high degree of mastery. I think he ate shit. I've watched it frame by frame several times now for this thread and it looks to me like he loses control. He also broke down in tears and seems to be completely destroyed by the entire thing, and on top of that, now he's getting hate from all over the world. But by all means, call the guy a fucking murderer because you're a pretend skater. I am a bit more adept than most. True. Breakskating is the only sport I have TV credits for, not counting the time that my high school baseball team went to state playoffs, but that's hardly the same thing. Yeah, he broke down in tears because he got caught. He's a trash human who killed a guy for no reason. -USA Hockey magazine. Notice, it talks about leaning in like I said to do and not about jump-kicking a dude in the neck because you hate him. icehockeyguide.com/body-checking-in-hockey/No hockey fan is going to think this isn't flagrant targeting and leaving feet violations. Thus, it's not a natural hockey move. It's deliberate. Because he got caught? How the fuck wouldn't he have gotten caught in the middle of a stadium in the middle of a hockey game when dropkicking the guy with the puck? At least one of the referees would have noticed. No, I think he was legitimately broken because he caused a man's death. I think he's going to be devastated about it for the rest of his life even once the internet vultures have forgotten about him and moved on to fresher corpses to pluck at. Rules are one thing but you're claiming he killed him deliberately and ruling out an accident. You could argue he was playing recklessly and that led to the accident, but you're not doing that because it's not as fun, right?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2023 18:29:28 GMT
I believe deliberate is more likely than accidental. But provable beyond reasonable doubt? No. Nothing is that. But why accuse of him murder if he didn’t do. There is no evidence he did. 2023 Sheffield, UK is not 1934 Maycomb, Alabama. If he’s charged it’ll probably be for manslaughter.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Oct 30, 2023 18:30:24 GMT
Yeah, sure you have, Heretic. You've done literally everything on the planet to a high degree of mastery. I think he ate shit. I've watched it frame by frame several times now for this thread and it looks to me like he loses control. He also broke down in tears and seems to be completely destroyed by the entire thing, and on top of that, now he's getting hate from all over the world. But by all means, call the guy a fucking murderer because you're a pretend skater. I am a bit more adept than most. True. Breakskating is the only sport I have TV credits for, not counting the time that my high school baseball team went to state playoffs, but that's hardly the same thing. Yeah, he broke down in tears because he got caught. He's a trash human who killed a guy for no reason. -USA Hockey magazine. Notice, it talks about leaning in like I said to do and not about jump-kicking a dude in the neck because you hate him. icehockeyguide.com/body-checking-in-hockey/No hockey fan is going to think this isn't flagrant targeting and leaving feet violations. Thus, it's not a natural hockey move. It's deliberate.
Only the racists will, but Petgrave is a Canadian. They are nicer than Americans. Was this you?
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Post by geddy on Oct 30, 2023 18:30:37 GMT
I see. Don't your paramedics there know how to handle this incident as perhaps he could have been saved? Perhaps he could and perhaps he couldn't. Even before he'd got off the ice he'd lost a ton of blood. You have inside info that he could? No, but an incident similar happened in North America to a goalie as was pointed out here and he survived.
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Post by bartlesby on Oct 30, 2023 18:31:42 GMT
Because you used the word deliberate implying he intentionally killed Johnson. He can’t be charged with murder if he didn’t mean to slice his throat. And the original OP certainly implied that because it’s in the title. It was accident as far as I can tell, not murder. It’s not going to end with Petgrave. The owners and managers are also responsible. I believe deliberate is more likely than accidental. But provable beyond reasonable doubt? No. You believe he deliberately dropkicked him instead of checking him? Why would he do that?
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Post by Factchecker3Point0 on Oct 30, 2023 18:31:42 GMT
Not the first time en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clint_MalarchukYou can Google the video. I seen it live. Malarchuk would have died but the Sabres trainer had been an Army medic in Vietnam and had seen grievous neck injuries before. Never forget that one.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Oct 30, 2023 18:32:16 GMT
I am a bit more adept than most. True. Breakskating is the only sport I have TV credits for, not counting the time that my high school baseball team went to state playoffs, but that's hardly the same thing. Yeah, he broke down in tears because he got caught. He's a trash human who killed a guy for no reason. -USA Hockey magazine. Notice, it talks about leaning in like I said to do and not about jump-kicking a dude in the neck because you hate him. icehockeyguide.com/body-checking-in-hockey/No hockey fan is going to think this isn't flagrant targeting and leaving feet violations. Thus, it's not a natural hockey move. It's deliberate. Because he got caught? How the fuck wouldn't he have gotten caught in the middle of a stadium in the middle of a hockey game when dropkicking the guy with the puck? At least one of the referees would have noticed. No, I think he was legitimately broken because he caused a man's death. I think he's going to be devastated about it for the rest of his life even once the internet vultures have forgotten about him and moved on to fresher corpses to pluck at. Rules are one thing but you're claiming he killed him deliberately and ruling out an accident. You could argue he was playing recklessly and that led to the accident, but you're not doing that because it's not as fun, right? I think racists can’t from hide the word any longer. They’ve are unashamed of it now.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Oct 30, 2023 18:32:36 GMT
I believe deliberate is more likely than accidental. But provable beyond reasonable doubt? No. Nothing is that. But why accuse of him murder if he didn’t do. There is no evidence he did. 2023 Sheffield, UK is not 1934 Maycomb, Alabama. As I said, I believe deliberate is more likely than accidental. And I don't give two shits about the race, unlike you nutcases where that's all the matters.
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Post by Factchecker3Point0 on Oct 30, 2023 18:33:29 GMT
Pretty sure I'm the only person who's ever played ice hockey on this forum. Granted, it was just a beer league, but I'm an expert level skater having been trained to figure skate and break skate (breakdancing on roller skates). There's simply no way it wasn't deliberate. Sticking your leg that high is not normal motions, even for turning. Yes, figure skating may do it for aesthetics, but in hockey, you'd want to keep your center of gravity low to increase effectiveness...especially if you're trying to check a guy. It was deliberate. Hence why you very rarely see any dropkicks to the neck in hockey. Yeah, sure you have, Heretic. You've done literally everything on the planet to a high degree of mastery. I think he ate shit. I've watched it frame by frame several times now for this thread and it looks to me like he loses control. He also broke down in tears and seems to be completely destroyed by the entire thing, and on top of that, now he's getting hate from all over the world. But by all means, call the guy a fucking murderer because you're a pretend skater. He'd lose that bet if I believed for 1 momen't he's actually played ice hockey.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Oct 30, 2023 18:33:54 GMT
Nothing is that. But why accuse of him murder if he didn’t do. There is no evidence he did. 2023 Sheffield, UK is not 1934 Maycomb, Alabama. As I said, I believe deliberate is more likely than accidental. And I don't give two shits about the race, unlike you nutcases where that's all the matters. If you say so.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2023 18:34:07 GMT
I am a bit more adept than most. True. Breakskating is the only sport I have TV credits for, not counting the time that my high school baseball team went to state playoffs, but that's hardly the same thing. Yeah, he broke down in tears because he got caught. He's a trash human who killed a guy for no reason. -USA Hockey magazine. Notice, it talks about leaning in like I said to do and not about jump-kicking a dude in the neck because you hate him. icehockeyguide.com/body-checking-in-hockey/No hockey fan is going to think this isn't flagrant targeting and leaving feet violations. Thus, it's not a natural hockey move. It's deliberate. Because he got caught? How the fuck wouldn't he have gotten caught in the middle of a stadium in the middle of a hockey game when dropkicking the guy with the puck? At least one of the referees would have noticed. No, I think he was legitimately broken because he caused a man's death. I think he's going to be devastated about it for the rest of his life even once the internet vultures have forgotten about him and moved on to fresher corpses to pluck at. Rules are one thing but you're claiming he killed him deliberately and ruling out an accident. You could argue he was playing recklessly and that led to the accident, but you're not doing that because it's not as fun, right? I don't think he deliberately tried to kill him, but he did try to hurt him and as a result killed him.
This player has a reputation as being the dirtiest player in the league, so it's not like this is a one-time thing. And yeah, it breaks a lot of rules flagrantly. It's not like it's his first time playing hockey and didn't know this.
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