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Post by ant-mac on Dec 5, 2023 12:37:05 GMT
In the UK in the 1960s, I can imagine that it might sometimes have been next to impossible to find enough - if any - actors with the appropriate ethnic or cultural background to fill out a production for film or TV that required them, but I find it difficult to believe there could ever have been a shortage of black actors or stuntmen in American film making... But what do I know?  There has been a history of black actors in UK film (Paul Robson for example) but Earl Cameron is often cited as the first black actor to star in British movies. They both managed to act without having to use a ridiculous accent. Earl Cameron played an astronaut in the 1966 DOCTOR WHO serial, THE TENTH PLANET. It featured the introduction of the Cybermen and the departure of the first Doctor. Despite the high death toll in the story, I'm pretty sure he managed to survive. |
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Post by Swimm on Dec 5, 2023 13:22:35 GMT
They have been race swapping historical characters for years now... Its okay as long as its white people |
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Post by ayatollah on Dec 5, 2023 13:46:04 GMT
No, he’s still a white Englishman but someone thought it would be creative and daring to cast a mixed race actor in the role. I don’t really mind but hopefully they’ll also cast white actors to play non-white historical characters. Actually, they have... at least in DOCTOR WHO. In the 1964 serial, MARCO POLO, several white actors were cast in the roles of Chinese characters, including Derren Nesbitt as Tegana, Jimmy Gardner as Chenchu, Claire Davenport as the Empress and Martin Miller as Kublai Khan. As for the 1965 serial, THE CRUSADE, several white actors adopted black-face for their roles, including Roger Avon and Bernard Kay. There are other examples, but you get the general idea. And those castings were, we were told, blackface and racist. |
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Post by ayatollah on Dec 5, 2023 13:50:54 GMT
They have been race swapping historical characters for years now... Its okay as long as its white people Yeah, as long as the person is white, that seems to be the real rule. My whole life I heard about how it was "racist" to cast John Wayne as Genghis Kahn, and other similar roles from decades ago. Now, magically these people talk as if race-swapped chasting is okay. |
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Post by mowlick on Dec 5, 2023 13:58:36 GMT
They have been race swapping historical characters for years now... Its okay as long as its white people Yeah, as long as the person is white, that seems to be the real rule. My whole life I heard about how it was "racist" to cast John Wayne as Genghis Kahn, and other similar roles from decades ago. Now, magically these people talk as if race-swapped chasting is okay. My whole life I have reckoned that John Wayne was good fun, but not to be taken seriously.
Lighten up Ayatollah
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Post by ayatollah on Dec 5, 2023 14:02:47 GMT
Yeah, as long as the person is white, that seems to be the real rule. My whole life I heard about how it was "racist" to cast John Wayne as Genghis Kahn, and other similar roles from decades ago. Now, magically these people talk as if race-swapped chasting is okay. My whole life I have reckoned that John Wayne was good fun, but not to be taken seriously.
Lighten up Ayatollah
I doubt that very much, you probably said it was racist and only claim not to take it seriously now for argument sake. When you look at recent instances of white people forced to apologize for clearly joking, like Jimmy Kimmels parody of Karl Malone, you can see the double standard. |
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Dec 5, 2023 14:24:37 GMT
There is no “Whiteness” in Great Britain, or so I’ve been told, therefore what difference does it make? Pretend Newt is white. Or do like me and go to sleep during these historical melodramas.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Dec 5, 2023 14:26:27 GMT
Wait? Is this the liberal “persecution” you talked about?
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Dec 5, 2023 14:28:51 GMT
No, he’s still a white Englishman but someone thought it would be creative and daring to cast a mixed race actor in the role. I don’t really mind but hopefully they’ll also cast white actors to play non-white historical characters. Easy enough. Just slap a little Max Factor on them. I wish they would remake Zulu with a reverse cast. |
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Dec 5, 2023 14:31:10 GMT
Kinda had that all through TV and Cinema history, although oddly those who throw hissy fits now never minded Charlton Heston as a Native American and the like. This tired old argument. Tell us how many Native American actors there were in Hollywood in the 1960s? If you think that John Wayne playing an East Asian was wrong, you have to say an Indian playing Isaac Newton is wrong. Neither is wrong, because it is acting in a make believe history movie. |
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Post by thorshairspray on Dec 5, 2023 14:33:30 GMT
This tired old argument. Tell us how many Native American actors there were in Hollywood in the 1960s? If you think that John Wayne playing an East Asian was wrong, you have to say an Indian playing Isaac Newton is wrong. Neither is wrong, because it is acting in a make believe history movie. Sure, thats what you actually think white people playing non white historical characters. |
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Post by Lux on Dec 5, 2023 14:37:03 GMT
This tired old argument. Tell us how many Native American actors there were in Hollywood in the 1960s? If you think that John Wayne playing an East Asian was wrong, you have to say an Indian playing Isaac Newton is wrong. Neither is wrong, because it is acting in a make believe history movie. Slavery is make believe history? |
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Dec 5, 2023 14:42:03 GMT
There is no “Whiteness” in Great Britain, or so I’ve been told, therefore what difference does it make? Pretend Newt is white. Or do like me and go to sleep during these historical melodramas. There is no "whiteness" anywhere in the world, not only in Great Britain.
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Post by thorshairspray on Dec 5, 2023 14:45:23 GMT
There is no “Whiteness” in Great Britain, or so I’ve been told, therefore what difference does it make? Pretend Newt is white. Or do like me and go to sleep during these historical melodramas. There is no "whiteness" anywhere in the world, not only in Great Britain.
Its odd how you can use a blatantly racist term and get away with it, as long as the racist term is about white people. |
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 5, 2023 14:47:27 GMT
This board is going the way of the yank board.
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