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Post by ayatollah on Dec 5, 2023 3:57:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2023 4:12:02 GMT
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Post by 99999 on Dec 5, 2023 4:37:05 GMT
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Post by primethefirst on Dec 5, 2023 6:12:27 GMT
They are now trying to erase HP Lovecraft from the history of Providence RI and replace him with Africans no one has heard of before.
They are too stupid to see that if they do that-they are validating what Lovecraft said about race and culture.
Basically proving him right.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2023 9:47:25 GMT
No, he’s still a white Englishman but someone thought it would be creative and daring to cast a mixed race actor in the role. I don’t really mind but hopefully they’ll also cast white actors to play non-white historical characters.
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Post by ant-mac on Dec 5, 2023 10:02:05 GMT
No, he’s still a white Englishman but someone thought it would be creative and daring to cast a mixed race actor in the role. I don’t really mind but hopefully they’ll also cast white actors to play non-white historical characters. Actually, they have... at least in DOCTOR WHO. In the 1964 serial, MARCO POLO, several white actors were cast in the roles of Chinese characters, including Derren Nesbitt as Tegana, Jimmy Gardner as Chenchu, Claire Davenport as the Empress and Martin Miller as Kublai Khan. As for the 1965 serial, THE CRUSADE, several white actors adopted black-face for their roles, including Roger Avon and Bernard Kay. There are other examples, but you get the general idea. |
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 5, 2023 10:10:00 GMT
No, he’s still a white Englishman but someone thought it would be creative and daring to cast a mixed race actor in the role. I don’t really mind but hopefully they’ll also cast white actors to play non-white historical characters. Kinda had that all through TV and Cinema history, although oddly those who throw hissy fits now never minded Charlton Heston as a Native American and the like. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2023 10:18:32 GMT
No, he’s still a white Englishman but someone thought it would be creative and daring to cast a mixed race actor in the role. I don’t really mind but hopefully they’ll also cast white actors to play non-white historical characters. Actually, they have... at least in DOCTOR WHO. In the 1964 serial, MARCO POLO, several white actors were cast in the roles of Chinese characters, including Derren Nesbitt as Tegana, Jimmy Gardner as Chenchu, Claire Davenport as the Empress and Martin Miller as Kublai Khan. As for the 1965 serial, THE CRUSADE, several white actors adopted black-face for their roles, including Roger Avon and Bernard Kay. There are other examples, but you get the general idea. I know but I really want to watch Tom Hardy play Muhammad Ali without the makeup. One of my favourite black face occurrences appears in the making-of short on the Shaft DVD. It’s a stuntman during the stairs action sequence and he appears at the 9 minute mark. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2023 10:23:41 GMT
No, he’s still a white Englishman but someone thought it would be creative and daring to cast a mixed race actor in the role. I don’t really mind but hopefully they’ll also cast white actors to play non-white historical characters. Kinda had that all through TV and Cinema history, although oddly those who throw hissy fits now never minded Charlton Heston as a Native American and the like. As I said to Ant, it has to be Tom Hardy as Muhammad Ali but without makeup. I can’t remember who said it but a Native American actor once said he wanted to play an Italian role because Indians were often played by Italians. |
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Post by thorshairspray on Dec 5, 2023 10:31:07 GMT
No, he’s still a white Englishman but someone thought it would be creative and daring to cast a mixed race actor in the role. I don’t really mind but hopefully they’ll also cast white actors to play non-white historical characters. Kinda had that all through TV and Cinema history, although oddly those who throw hissy fits now never minded Charlton Heston as a Native American and the like. This tired old argument. Tell us how many Native American actors there were in Hollywood in the 1960s? If you think that John Wayne playing an East Asian was wrong, you have to say an Indian playing Isaac Newton is wrong. |
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Post by Lux on Dec 5, 2023 10:54:06 GMT
Kinda had that all through TV and Cinema history, although oddly those who throw hissy fits now never minded Charlton Heston as a Native American and the like. This tired old argument. Tell us how many Native American actors there were in Hollywood in the 1960s? If you think that John Wayne playing an East Asian was wrong, you have to say an Indian playing Isaac Newton is wrong. It's Yggdrasil's painkillers doing the talking ignore him. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2023 11:09:13 GMT
Kinda had that all through TV and Cinema history, although oddly those who throw hissy fits now never minded Charlton Heston as a Native American and the like. This tired old argument. Tell us how many Native American actors there were in Hollywood in the 1960s? If you think that John Wayne playing an East Asian was wrong, you have to say an Indian playing Isaac Newton is wrong. There were Native American actors but they rarely got speaking parts. I had a quick look on Wikipedia and just found out that Ben Johnson was mixed race and born on a reservation. Now he could have played Issac Newton without anyone complaining. |
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Post by ant-mac on Dec 5, 2023 11:25:01 GMT
Actually, they have... at least in DOCTOR WHO. In the 1964 serial, MARCO POLO, several white actors were cast in the roles of Chinese characters, including Derren Nesbitt as Tegana, Jimmy Gardner as Chenchu, Claire Davenport as the Empress and Martin Miller as Kublai Khan. As for the 1965 serial, THE CRUSADE, several white actors adopted black-face for their roles, including Roger Avon and Bernard Kay. There are other examples, but you get the general idea. I know but I really want to watch Tom Hardy play Muhammad Ali without the makeup. One of my favourite black face occurrences appears in the making-of short on the Shaft DVD. It’s a stuntman during the stairs action sequence and he appears at the 9 minute mark. In the UK in the 1960s, I can imagine that it might sometimes have been next to impossible to find enough - if any - actors with the appropriate ethnic or cultural background to fill out a production for film or TV that required them, but I find it difficult to believe there could ever have been a shortage of black actors or stuntmen in American film making... But what do I know? 8-| |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2023 12:31:03 GMT
I know but I really want to watch Tom Hardy play Muhammad Ali without the makeup. One of my favourite black face occurrences appears in the making-of short on the Shaft DVD. It’s a stuntman during the stairs action sequence and he appears at the 9 minute mark. In the UK in the 1960s, I can imagine that it might sometimes have been next to impossible to find enough - if any - actors with the appropriate ethnic or cultural background to fill out a production for film or TV that required them, but I find it difficult to believe there could ever have been a shortage of black actors or stuntmen in American film making... But what do I know? 8-| There has been a history of black actors in UK film (Paul Robson for example) but Earl Cameron is often cited as the first black actor to star in British movies. They both managed to act without having to use a ridiculous accent. |
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Post by mowlick on Dec 5, 2023 12:36:14 GMT
No, he’s still a white Englishman but someone thought it would be creative and daring to cast a mixed race actor in the role. I don’t really mind but hopefully they’ll also cast white actors to play non-white historical characters. Kinda had that all through TV and Cinema history, although oddly those who throw hissy fits now never minded Charlton Heston as a Native American and the like. Jesus Christ, who could tell ?
Heston was so wooden he could have been the Indian outside a cigar store.
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