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Post by gwyn on Dec 9, 2023 17:09:10 GMT
Since we're on the subject, what is your position on Palestinians' -- not just Hamas -- but Palestinians' abuses of gays and women? See how I needn't add "human rights" before "abuses" because they're just flat-out abuses. Your thoughts? I disagree with anti gay opinions whether they come from Palestinians or from American Conservatives, that doesn't mean I support the casual killing of children of either group or ignoring their Human Rights. The Human rights involved are more important BECAUSE we disagree with their backwards opinions, it's easy to support those who we agree with, much harder and important to defend those who may morally repulse us. Hope that helps. I'd like to know what your source is for the "casual killing of [Palestinian] children." I'm not playing rhetorical games. This is very important because the vile and repugnant lies I see posted on here about IDF are as shockingly stupid and factually incorrect as they are disgusting, and they appear to be a contagion. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2023 17:10:55 GMT
Whenever you hear some Pal apologist bemoan Israeli “torture”, just remember that they are referring to stuff like this. Try not to laugh at them. Yes. Burning babies to death, cutting a living woman's legs off for increased rape-ability, these things require additional context but (not even all the way) strip searching suspects in custody? Shame. As the Harvard Law School students spit, "Shame." These threads are batshit nuts. There are people I agree with who go the other way I figured. If I was Jewish, I'd be going ham. |
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Post by jeffersoncody on Dec 9, 2023 17:21:23 GMT
Since we're on the subject, what is your position on Palestinians' -- not just Hamas -- but Palestinians' abuses of gays and women? See how I needn't add "human rights" before "abuses" because they're just flat-out abuses. Your thoughts? I disagree with anti gay opinions whether they come from Palestinians or from American Conservatives, that doesn't mean I support the casual killing of children of either group or ignoring their Human Rights. The Human rights involved are more important BECAUSE we disagree with their backwards opinions, it's easy to support those who we agree with, much harder and important to defend those who may morally repulse us. Hope that helps.It doesn't, it just makes you look like a silly cunt who is trying to fool the dumbest, wokest, most short sighted, most gullible posters on the board into thinking Israel fighting back against Hamas terrorists is somehow worse than the heinous barbarity of the October 7. "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time" yggdrasil.Hope that helps. gwyn,OfUnknownOrigins,damngumby,SciFive, |
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Post by Xeliou66 on Dec 9, 2023 17:34:31 GMT
It’s not surprising that all of the right wingers here support this, they want torture to become the norm in America as well. They have a complete disregard for human rights and believe that cruelty is the answer to problems. It’s truly disgusting.
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 9, 2023 17:34:56 GMT
More and more, those trying to defend Israel's continued human rights abuses seem to ignore the point and argue a separate point that no one was in favour of anyway. It's an odd style of debate but seems to be all they have rather than to debate and attempt to defend the OP. Very hard to know what is going on in the OP, do we have any actual facts as to the status of the men and whether they were combatants, or known terrorists or whatever? If that’s a human right abuse you would’ve flat out took Japan’s side in Okinawa in 1945. The Americans made surrendering Japanese soldiers come to them completely naked. Not wearing their boxers like the terrorists in the photo. Now what do you think the practical reason why they had the terrorists only wearing their boxers? Again, missing my point, you are talking about combatants, I clearly said that it's fine if they were combatants. My point about human rights related to if they were just random people. |
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 9, 2023 17:38:42 GMT
I disagree with anti gay opinions whether they come from Palestinians or from American Conservatives, that doesn't mean I support the casual killing of children of either group or ignoring their Human Rights. The Human rights involved are more important BECAUSE we disagree with their backwards opinions, it's easy to support those who we agree with, much harder and important to defend those who may morally repulse us. Hope that helps. I'd like to know what your source is for the "casual killing of [Palestinian] children." I'm not playing rhetorical games. This is very important because the vile and repugnant lies I see posted on here about IDF are as shockingly stupid and factually incorrect as they are disgusting, and they appear to be a contagion. I think the deaths of thousands of children by the razing of Gaza speaks clearly for itself. If you think that's okay then it's pointless even discussing it. You have chose to take a side and obsessively post unqualified support for it, I like nearly everyone think Hamas are utter scum, but I don't agree that thousands of innocent people and especially children should pay with their lives because of it, you think it's acceptable, that's where we differ. |
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Post by gwyn on Dec 9, 2023 17:39:21 GMT
It’s not surprising that all of the right wingers here support this, they want torture to become the norm in America as well. They have a complete disregard for human rights and believe that cruelty is the answer to problems. It’s truly disgusting. You have no problem with men holding down a living woman and cutting the fetus out of her abdomen and her organs with it, yet you call men having to remove their outer garments torture? Then you're what's disgusting. |
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 9, 2023 17:44:15 GMT
I disagree with anti gay opinions whether they come from Palestinians or from American Conservatives, that doesn't mean I support the casual killing of children of either group or ignoring their Human Rights. The Human rights involved are more important BECAUSE we disagree with their backwards opinions, it's easy to support those who we agree with, much harder and important to defend those who may morally repulse us. Hope that helps.It doesn't, it just makes you look like a silly cunt who is trying to fool the dumbest, wokest, most short sighted, most gullible posters on the board into thinking Israel fighting back against Hamas terrorists is somehow worse than the heinous barbarity of the October 7. "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time" yggdrasil.Hope that helps. gwyn ,OfUnknownOrigins ,damngumby ,SciFive , Strange how you only link in a few obsessive Israel supporters in your post, obviously seeking some kind of validation and high fives for your comments. As always, you address the poster rather than the post which more and more shows your newfound inability to debate on an unbiased level. If all you seek is people telling you that you are right that maybe says more about your own insecurities than about the subject being discussed at any one time. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2023 17:45:51 GMT
It’s not surprising that all of the right wingers here support this, they want torture to become the norm in America as well. They have a complete disregard for human rights and believe that cruelty is the answer to problems. It’s truly disgusting. I don't support anything. Here's the difference between Israel and Ukraine. Whether we like it or not, Israel is a non nato ally. Also: www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/16/why-israel-allies-explainer#:~:text=The%20US%20was%20the%20first,wasn%27t%20always%20that%20way. The US was the first country to offer de facto recognition to the new Israeli government when the Jewish state declared independence on 14 May 1948. Seventy-five years later, Washington has long been Israel’s strongest military and diplomatic ally. Yes, I'm not a fan of the guardian, but that is factual. Ukraine is different. Should we leave nato? That's a different discussion for a different thread. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2023 17:46:59 GMT
It doesn't, it just makes you look like a silly cunt who is trying to fool the dumbest, wokest, most short sighted, most gullible posters on the board into thinking Israel fighting back against Hamas terrorists is somehow worse than the heinous barbarity of the October 7. "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time" yggdrasil.Hope that helps. gwyn ,OfUnknownOrigins ,damngumby ,SciFive , Strange how you only link in a few obsessive Israel supporters in your post, obviously seeking some kind of validation and high fives for your comments. As always, you address the poster rather than the post which more and more shows your newfound inability to debate on an unbiased level. If all you seek is people telling you that you are right that maybe says more about your own insecurities than about the subject being discussed at any one time. Israel is a non nato ally. They've been one. Should they be? That is an interesting discussion to have. |
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Post by gwyn on Dec 9, 2023 17:50:14 GMT
I'd like to know what your source is for the "casual killing of [Palestinian] children." I'm not playing rhetorical games. This is very important because the vile and repugnant lies I see posted on here about IDF are as shockingly stupid and factually incorrect as they are disgusting, and they appear to be a contagion. I think the deaths of thousands of children by the razing of Gaza speaks clearly for itself. If you think that's okay then it's pointless even discussing it. You have chose to take a side and obsessively post unqualified support for it, I like nearly everyone think Hamas are utter scum, but I don't agree that thousands of innocent people and especially children should pay with their lives because of it, you think it's acceptable, that's where we differ. Oh my god, I was right. It doesn't whatsoever speak for itself. You have literally no clue. You're one of those people who sees the rarely broadcast footage of actual Gaza and you're shocked to see the vast majority of it intact. You think because city blocks in Gaza City where terrorists lived and operated were bombarded to the ground and then blasted and blasted and blasted, the same sites day after day after day in order to breech the tunnels from above in what is called "bunker busting" that children would be there? Who am I talking to? This is not the body of knowledge of military generals, this is basic stuff adults who have the temerity to be spouting off about war should know about war. |
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Post by DalekFred on Dec 9, 2023 17:54:52 GMT
I don’t know what to make of that photo. It is not a prison, it is a desert. You can’t strip search in a kneeling position. They seemed lined up on the ledge of …. something out in the wilderness. Sorry, but Mass Execution and burial pit just spring to mind for some reason. But who knows? Maybe they are just the losing team of a Strip Twister tournament.
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Post by OfUnknownOrigins on Dec 9, 2023 17:56:09 GMT
If that’s a human right abuse you would’ve flat out took Japan’s side in Okinawa in 1945. The Americans made surrendering Japanese soldiers come to them completely naked. Not wearing their boxers like the terrorists in the photo. Now what do you think the practical reason why they had the terrorists only wearing their boxers? Again, missing my point, you are talking about combatants, I clearly said that it's fine if they were combatants. My point about human rights related to if they were just random people. They look like fighting age males so Israel has to assume they’re combatants. Remember this is a brainwashed crazy society like Japan in 1945. Their soldiers fought with fanaticism that would even shock the Waffen SS. |
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Post by gwyn on Dec 9, 2023 18:03:50 GMT
I don’t know what to make of that photo. It is not a prison, it is a desert. You can’t strip search in a kneeling position. They seemed lined up on the ledge of …. something out in the wilderness. Sorry, but Mass Execution and burial pit just spring to mind for some reason. But who knows? Maybe they are just the losing team of a Strip Twister tournament. Then you must be a twisted sadist. They've been searched and are sitting, waiting for the military trucks to transport them. jeffersoncody posted a video showing it, even cat has posted another video of them once they arrive at the facility. That's not even up for debate, but thanks for comin' out, weirdo. Do want to see my horns and my sack of Jew gold that's tied around my neck, at all times? It's like teaching kindergarten to openly racist, developmentally delayed lemurs. Jfc. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2023 18:18:08 GMT
It may not look the best, but it's possible it's more about ensuring that none of the prisoners have any hidden weapons. Of course, that's merely speculation on my part. And if the conflict is ongoing, then it wouldn't be unusual to see a regular influx of prisoners of war. In the Battle of Okinawa, Americans ordered Japanese soldiers surrendering (the few that did) to strip completely nude and walk to them. Thats because so many of them that would surrender in the Pacific War would be concealing a grenade or other weapon to lunge at a nearby Marine or soldier. That was done to confirmed soldiers. Soldiers who were actually soldiers. Soldiers in uniform. Not suspects. Anyways, I get the message. Anything Israel does is instantly a war crime and it's all just bias. |
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