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Post by PaulsLaugh on Dec 11, 2023 19:13:00 GMT
They were here on the Massachusetts Bay Company’s dime, so it was Capitalism, baby. They were grubstaked to turn a profit on the company’s plantations, not establish a church. The London businessmen didn’t care about that. How did the people founding the settlements feel about it? They took the money and killed off the natives as necessary to expand the plantations. England was very experienced in mass population replacement and setting up these plantations, as they had practiced it on the Scots and Irish for centuries.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2023 19:23:43 GMT
How did the people founding the settlements feel about it? They took the money and killed off the natives as necessary to expand the plantations. England was very experienced in mass population replacement and setting up these plantations, as they had practiced it on the Scots and Irish for centuries. So you're saying it was founded to be a Christian nation? Those stone-age technology savages lost the war fair and square and the Puritans won it.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Dec 11, 2023 19:29:51 GMT
They took the money and killed off the natives as necessary to expand the plantations. England was very experienced in mass population replacement and setting up these plantations, as they had practiced it on the Scots and Irish for centuries. So you're saying it was founded to be a Christian nation?Those stone-age technology savages lost the war fair and square and the Puritans won it. No, goddam it. Jesus, you’re as stubborn as three year old, though a lot less smart. Hey, since St Augustine pre-dates Jamestown and Plymouth, shouldn’t our national church be the Roman Catholic one? I’ll send you some rosary beads and booklet so you can bone up on your new religion.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2023 19:31:54 GMT
So you're saying it was founded to be a Christian nation?Those stone-age technology savages lost the war fair and square and the Puritans won it. No, goddam it. Jesus, you’re as stubborn as three year old, though a lot less smart. Hey, since St Augustine pre-dates Jamestown and Plymouth, shouldn’t our national church be the Roman Catholic one? I’ll send you some rosary beads and booklet so you can bone up on your new religion. Saint Augustine was indeed founded as a Roman Catholic settlement. Hence the naming after Saint Augustine. Duh. It later got conquered by the country the Puritans founded. As did many other Roman Catholic settlements in the Western USA.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Dec 11, 2023 19:36:45 GMT
No, goddam it. Jesus, you’re as stubborn as three year old, though a lot less smart. Hey, since St Augustine pre-dates Jamestown and Plymouth, shouldn’t our national church be the Roman Catholic one? I’ll send you some rosary beads and booklet so you can bone up on your new religion. Saint Augustine was indeed founded as a Roman Catholic settlement. Hence the naming after Saint Augustine. Duh. It later got conquered by the country the Puritans founded. As did many other Roman Catholic settlements in the Western USA. The first permanent English colony was Jamestown. Few settlers in Virginia were not Church of England. And the Puritans never went to war with Church in the Americas. That was only in England. And the USA founded in 1776, not 1619, was never founded as a Christian nation. A slave nation, yes.
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Post by cts1 on Dec 11, 2023 20:32:21 GMT
Oliver Cromwell would be pleased.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Dec 11, 2023 20:39:05 GMT
Oliver Cromwell would be pleased. If the Puritans did found the USA, then we shouldn’t be celebrating Christmas.
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Post by ShadowSouL Likes This on Dec 12, 2023 1:31:13 GMT
You'd have thought that bossy prick would've learned his lesson after he got nailed to a tree... Because, if they can convince you how to live your life, it validates their choice of how they live their lives. It's really just a form of external validation. How so, unless you're talking about the very few who actually live their lives chastely? Because the vast majority don't.
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Post by ShadowSouL Likes This on Dec 12, 2023 1:32:37 GMT
Some evangelicals are like this. Kirk Cameron even made an entire "movie" defending Christmas as being okay for Christians to celebrate.
I was raised evangelical and haven't heard one evangelical ever question celebrating Christmas. In fact, there were many "C and E" members of the church...those that only showed up for Christmas and Easter. I've heard Christians call Santa Claus Satan Claus. In church.
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Post by ShadowSouL Likes This on Dec 12, 2023 1:43:04 GMT
Have you looked underneath your local pizzeria? That is where the lizard people clones keep them, according to MAGA. But, also take care not to get caught by the drones forcing all you Aussies inside 24/7 (also according to MAGA). Good luck, Magus!
I remember The Night Rider, and I know who you are! My local pizza shop doesn't have a basement. In my youth, I worked at another local pizza shop... and it didn't have a basement either. But The Alamo has a basement, right?
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Post by ShadowSouL Likes This on Dec 12, 2023 1:44:04 GMT
What Really Happens in Basement Meeting
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Post by scream on Dec 12, 2023 2:18:32 GMT
Because, if they can convince you how to live your life, it validates their choice of how they live their lives. It's really just a form of external validation. How so, unless you're talking about the very few who actually live their lives chastely? Because the vast majority don't. If they get enough external validation, they equate that with power. And power corrupts.
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Post by ShadowSouL Likes This on Dec 12, 2023 2:23:44 GMT
How so, unless you're talking about the very few who actually live their lives chastely? Because the vast majority don't. If they get enough external validation, they equate that with power. And power corrupts. True.
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