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Post by merh on Dec 18, 2023 6:39:43 GMT
So he isn't in the 1971 film. The Slugworth in that film is Wonka's employee, remember? As for Wonka Budget $125 million Box office $151.4 million So for now, it is doing well.
I remember. The man wore glasses and had a pockmarked face.
Why is it about $Money with you?
It's a Wonderful Life was a box office flop, too right?
The 1971 Wonka was also a failure, making $4 million on a $3 million budget. Money is what makes Studios make films, isn't it? Think they do it for charity? I loved Rise of the Guardians, but we will likely never get any sequels because the movie bombed. But no, money isn't important is it. Remember? NOT ACTUALLY SLUGWORTH Willy is a bit of a liar in the 1971 film, isn't he? |
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Post by merh on Dec 18, 2023 6:41:21 GMT
Studio 54 didn't even open til 1977 ![[dance]](http://storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/hTNDOboRzG0UaQhHtOIz.gif) So in 1971 the Trump name was associated with the father who did not have a good reputation. |
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Dec 18, 2023 6:48:56 GMT
Why are Oompa Loompas orange? Why are there chemicals in the film that turn people blue & green? It's a fantasy? You are kidding! You gonna complain about Keegan-Michael Key being in the film? I find him entertaining. Oompa Loompas are not orange just so they can meet 'woke" casting quotas of minorities. They are fantasy creatures and Hugh Grant's makeup is designed from the original Willy Wonka.
I haven't seen the film, so no slight on the black actors in the film and the quality of any performance, (the main kid in it is not only black but female), yet it does not appear to fit well into the era it is supposedly representing, fantasy or not.
Did Roald Dahl envisage his characters in his original stories as black Africans? If an African fable was made into a film and cast white actors, who would then scream racism?
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Post by abbey1227 on Dec 18, 2023 6:49:58 GMT
The 1971 Wonka was also a failure, making $4 million on a $3 million budget. Money is what makes Studios make films, isn't it? Think they do it for charity? I loved Rise of the Guardians, but we will likely never get any sequels because the movie bombed. But no, money isn't important is it. Remember? NOT ACTUALLY SLUGWORTH Willy is a bit of a liar in the 1971 film, isn't he?
It made more money than it cost........so not a total failure, imo
WHY are you taking MY position on the benefits of making money? EVERYTHING you want provided by the Govt costs MONEY.
I said I remembered, didn't I? That was one of the big reveals at the end. Wonka was putting on a show/lying from the moment he stepped out of the factory.......hence the limp and the cane. ![[grin]](http://storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/CBubFSUbXfyoLMZUjeBb.gif) |
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Dec 18, 2023 6:52:02 GMT
So he isn't in the 1971 film. The Slugworth in that film is Wonka's employee, remember? As for Wonka Budget $125 million Box office $151.4 million So for now, it is doing well. How is that doing well? It only made about $40mill domestically. That is not sterling box office for a US opening, which is only 1/3 of the budget. The 151 mill is worldwide gross. |
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Dec 18, 2023 6:55:15 GMT
Because of their parents being black? Why were these characters represented as black in the film, when the story is typically English set late 30's early 40's? Were there plenty of black folk around in England in positions of authority? |
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Post by abbey1227 on Dec 18, 2023 6:57:25 GMT
Did Roald Dahl envisage his characters in his original stories as black Africans? If an African fable was made into a film and cast white actors, who would then scream racism?
I'm looking forward to the Roots remake starring this fella as Kunte
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Dec 18, 2023 7:07:24 GMT
Did Roald Dahl envisage his characters in his original stories as black Africans? If an African fable was made into a film and cast white actors, who would then scream racism?
I'm looking forward to the Roots remake starring this fella as Kunte
Or a remake of Zulu, with Powder dudes as Zulu Warriors. The Brits can be played by Asians....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2023 7:10:49 GMT
Did Roald Dahl envisage his characters in his original stories as black Africans? If an African fable was made into a film and cast white actors, who would then scream racism?
I'm looking forward to the Roots remake starring this fella as Kunte
C'mon now..there's gotta be some of their culture expressed maan  |
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Post by merh on Dec 18, 2023 7:38:02 GMT
Because of their parents being black? Why were these characters represented as black in the film, when the story is typically English set late 30's early 40's? Were there plenty of black folk around in England in positions of authority? {Spoiler}Noodle is an orphan dropped down the laundry chute of Mrs. Scrubitts's laundry as a baby.
The only possession Noodle has is a ring with a fancy N on it which is why Scrubitt.
Plot twist-Slugworth has a similar ring. When confronted, he states the ring Noodle possesses belonged to Slugworth's brother (Name began with a "Z") who foolishly, in Arthur Slugworth's opinion, fell in love with a poor woman & died, leaving Arthur the sole owner of the company. Months later, the woman shows up on Slugworth's doorstep begging him to help her sick baby who represented a legitimate challenge to Arthur's ownership of the company. So there is a connection to Noodle being black. Does seeing a black person in a film upset you that much? |
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Post by Rob801 on Dec 18, 2023 9:13:21 GMT
These are two of my go to YT reviewers, and much like Stuckman, I wasn’t interested in this at all (kind of indifferent) but they swayed my pre judgement a bit. Have to say I have not seen Paddington one or two either… but may consider it down the road based on Stuckmans comments. Campea liked it quite a lot as well. I may go next weekend. If I don’t catch it in the theater it will definitely be on my watch list when it hits streaming.
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Post by Lux on Dec 18, 2023 9:21:22 GMT
Why were these characters represented as black in the film, when the story is typically English set late 30's early 40's? Were there plenty of black folk around in England in positions of authority? {Spoiler}Noodle is an orphan dropped down the laundry chute of Mrs. Scrubitts's laundry as a baby.
The only possession Noodle has is a ring with a fancy N on it which is why Scrubitt.
Plot twist-Slugworth has a similar ring. When confronted, he states the ring Noodle possesses belonged to Slugworth's brother (Name began with a "Z") who foolishly, in Arthur Slugworth's opinion, fell in love with a poor woman & died, leaving Arthur the sole owner of the company. Months later, the woman shows up on Slugworth's doorstep begging him to help her sick baby who represented a legitimate challenge to Arthur's ownership of the company. So there is a connection to Noodle being black. Does seeing a black person in a film upset you that much? What's the connection? White people can be orphans too. Bruce Wayne was an orphan. |
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Dec 18, 2023 9:56:40 GMT
I'm looking forward to the Roots remake starring this fella as Kunte
C'mon now..there's gotta be some of their culture expressed maan Yes, the Tatts and the hair beading are an important aspect of Kunte Kinte’s culture. It doesn’t matter anymore about historical accuracy, because “woke” is progressively cultural now and entitlements are the new norm. |
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Dec 18, 2023 10:01:18 GMT
Why were these characters represented as black in the film, when the story is typically English set late 30's early 40's? Were there plenty of black folk around in England in positions of authority? {Spoiler}Noodle is an orphan dropped down the laundry chute of Mrs. Scrubitts's laundry as a baby.
The only possession Noodle has is a ring with a fancy N on it which is why Scrubitt.
Plot twist-Slugworth has a similar ring. When confronted, he states the ring Noodle possesses belonged to Slugworth's brother (Name began with a "Z") who foolishly, in Arthur Slugworth's opinion, fell in love with a poor woman & died, leaving Arthur the sole owner of the company. Months later, the woman shows up on Slugworth's doorstep begging him to help her sick baby who represented a legitimate challenge to Arthur's ownership of the company. So there is a connection to Noodle being black. Does seeing a black person in a film upset you that much? How convenient, a black orphan to suit and appease the progressive mindset. We wouldn’t want a Wonka movie being perceived as racist now, would we? I’m sure black London policemen and high end business men were in abundance too, you noodle. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2023 10:29:43 GMT
Because of their parents being black? Why were these characters represented as black in the film, when the story is typically English set late 30's early 40's? Were there plenty of black folk around in England in positions of authority? Probably more black people in England than there were Oompa Loompas on the entire planet. |
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