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Post by Harry Skywalker on Dec 13, 2023 14:29:07 GMT
Deny that Die Hard is a Christmas movie. Denying the truth? Not possible.
Die Hard is NOT a Christmas movie at all.
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Post by hugsfromlv426 on Dec 13, 2023 14:40:57 GMT
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Post by Harry Skywalker on Dec 13, 2023 14:50:19 GMT
Die Hard is NOT a Christmas movie! To prove what's obvious I absolutely crushed John McClane's skull in his own favorite book - the John Wick Bible! I spanked him like the non-Christmas ragdoll he is! |
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Post by phludowin on Dec 13, 2023 14:55:08 GMT
There might be a few actual Hamas supporters here but I think most of of the people falsely being labeled as supporters would agree that Hamas is a giant bag of shit. Even if they also think that Israel's bombing spree is only going to inspire more people to become future terrorists. I recall quite a bit of Israel-blaming on this board on October 8th, prior to any bombs being dropped. And did these same posters, if they existed, express support for what Hamas did? Understanding something is not the same as supporting it. |
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Post by Harry Skywalker on Dec 13, 2023 15:18:55 GMT
I recall quite a bit of Israel-blaming on this board on October 8th, prior to any bombs being dropped. And did these same posters, if they existed, express support for what Hamas did? Understanding something is not the same as supporting it. Understanding what? Trying to justify the horrendous Hamas terrorist attacks? |
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Post by marsatax on Dec 13, 2023 16:20:07 GMT
I recall quite a bit of Israel-blaming on this board on October 8th, prior to any bombs being dropped. I'll take your word for it, but it's not surprising. Most terrorist attacks don't happen out of nowhere. They usually have some type of real or imagined grudge against the country they're attacking. Not that it makes them right or anything. And I'll never pretend to be any kind of expert on international relations. It just seems like the current situation is never going to sort itself out. The bigger and more powerful country in any conflict is usually the one that has to be the bigger man and show some restraint. Whether that's fair or not is debatable. But the US tried running all over the world with our dicks out after our 9/11 and that didn't really solve anything either. We also weren't living next door to the Taliban. So in summary, I don't really know much of anything which is probably just as much as most other people here.
Israel showed restraint against Hamas for years. The result was the October 7 massacre. But the US tried running all over the world with our dicks out after our 9/11 and that didn't really solve anything either.
Wrong. We destroyed al-Qaeda, and there has been no repeat of September 11. In the same way, Israel has a good shot at destroying Hamas. |
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Post by marsatax on Dec 13, 2023 16:26:35 GMT
If Hamas was so devastated by the war that its leadership surrendered, apologized for October 7, paid reparations, recognized the permanent existence of the Zionist state, and declared that Allah loves Israel, the Israel-bashers would drop them like a hot potato.
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Post by uncreative on Dec 13, 2023 16:42:55 GMT
I'll take your word for it, but it's not surprising. Most terrorist attacks don't happen out of nowhere. They usually have some type of real or imagined grudge against the country they're attacking. Not that it makes them right or anything. And I'll never pretend to be any kind of expert on international relations. It just seems like the current situation is never going to sort itself out. The bigger and more powerful country in any conflict is usually the one that has to be the bigger man and show some restraint. Whether that's fair or not is debatable. But the US tried running all over the world with our dicks out after our 9/11 and that didn't really solve anything either. We also weren't living next door to the Taliban. So in summary, I don't really know much of anything which is probably just as much as most other people here.
Israel showed restraint against Hamas for years. The result was the October 7 massacre. But the US tried running all over the world with our dicks out after our 9/11 and that didn't really solve anything either.
Wrong. We destroyed al-Qaeda, and there has been no repeat of September 11. In the same way, Israel has a good shot at destroying Hamas. There was never going to be another 9/11. They got lucky once. And if their goal was to get us to fuck ourselves in response then they were way more successful then even Bin Laden could have ever hoped for. Meanwhile the Taliban is still out there running Afghanistan after a 20 year campaign against them and we created all the conditions that allowed ISIS to exist for a while. |
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Post by Winter_King on Dec 13, 2023 17:01:50 GMT
The bigger and more powerful country in any conflict is usually the one that has to be the bigger man and show some restraint.
Israel showed restraint against Hamas for years. The result was the October 7 massacre. But the US tried running all over the world with our dicks out after our 9/11 and that didn't really solve anything either.
Wrong. We destroyed al-Qaeda, and there has been no repeat of September 11. In the same way, Israel has a good shot at destroying Hamas. They got lucky once. And if their goal was to get us to fuck ourselves in response then they were way more successful then even Bin Laden could have ever hoped for. Meanwhile the Taliban is still out there running Afghanistan after a 20 year campaign against them and we created all the conditions that allowed ISIS to exist for a while. It would likely never happen in the first place if US intelligence agencies had been sharing info with each other. 9/11 might have surprised us but it should've have come as a surprise given the amount of warnings received. |
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Post by Winter_King on Dec 13, 2023 17:06:02 GMT
I'll take your word for it, but it's not surprising. Most terrorist attacks don't happen out of nowhere. They usually have some type of real or imagined grudge against the country they're attacking. Not that it makes them right or anything. And I'll never pretend to be any kind of expert on international relations. It just seems like the current situation is never going to sort itself out. The bigger and more powerful country in any conflict is usually the one that has to be the bigger man and show some restraint. Whether that's fair or not is debatable. But the US tried running all over the world with our dicks out after our 9/11 and that didn't really solve anything either. We also weren't living next door to the Taliban. So in summary, I don't really know much of anything which is probably just as much as most other people here.
I doubt it will be able with the current strategy. Bombing Gaza into submission it's unlikely to turn the Palestinians against Hamas. Bombing England didn't turn the British against Winston Churchill, bombing Germany didn't turn the Germans against Hitler, bombing the Soviet Union didn't turn the Soviets against Stalin and bombing Japan didn't turn the Japanese against Hirohito. In many ways it only made the people more determined to fight. There has to some sort of political solution. It can't be purely military. |
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Post by SciFive on Dec 13, 2023 17:14:38 GMT
In the same way, Israel has a good shot at destroying Hamas.
I doubt it will be able with the current strategy. Bombing Gaza into submission it's unlikely to turn the Palestinians against Hamas. Bombing England didn't turn the British against Winston Churchill, bombing Germany didn't turn the Germans against Hitler, bombing the Soviet Union didn't turn the Soviets against Stalin and bombing Japan didn't turn the Japanese against Hirohito. In many ways it only made the people more determined to fight. There has to some sort of political solution. It can't be purely military. You're not paying any attention whatsoever.
Israel is bombing Hamas.
Israel is underground all over Gaza fighting Hamas.
Israel is NOT trying to turn the civilians against Hamas.
The civilians are not fighting.
Israel asked them to get out of the way but the world wouldn't let it happen.
Hamas is beatable because they rely on half a billion dollars worth of tunnels and equipment, which is being destroyed.
They don't rely on the Gazan civilians' support.
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Post by SciFive on Dec 13, 2023 17:18:54 GMT
There is no political solution to this situation.
The enemy is terror groups which act like animals and only wish Israel to be destroyed.
They have to be liquidated to the point where they are incapable of functioning.
Their expensive tunnels and equipment are being destroyed, which is the answer, along with dismantling the battalions (which is happening).
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Post by phludowin on Dec 13, 2023 17:21:02 GMT
And did these same posters, if they existed, express support for what Hamas did? Understanding something is not the same as supporting it. Understanding what? Trying to justificate the horrendous Hamas terrorist attacks? Has anybody on this board tried to justificate the Hamas attacks? Not that I know of. But some people can still understand why Hamas does this. It's called empathy. It's what psychologists who are analyzing serial killers do. |
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Post by SciFive on Dec 13, 2023 17:22:37 GMT
Understanding what? Trying to justificate the horrendous Hamas terrorist attacks? Has anybody on this board tried to justificate the Hamas attacks? WarrenBEN and InXel have tried to justify the October 7th attack.
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Post by Harry Skywalker on Dec 13, 2023 17:25:32 GMT
Understanding what? Trying to justificate the horrendous Hamas terrorist attacks? Has anybody on this board tried to justificate the Hamas attacks? Not that I know of. But some people can still understand why Hamas does this. It's called empathy. It's what psychologists who are analyzing serial killers do. Therefore you are a terrorist supporter.
Anyone who shows or tries to show empathy to terrorists is a terrorist supporter.
What a giant fail.
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