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Post by PaulsLaugh on Dec 31, 2023 10:40:52 GMT
Interstellar travel, under the laws of physics, is impossible. Few an comprehend how empty space is, even in a galaxy like ours. Nothing with mass can go the speed of light, not even close. And, if aliens were bopping around, they would almost certainly communicate by radio waves or electromagnetic radiation of some kind. And we can pick that up easily. We haven't heard a peep, let alone seeing one Is there life out there, undoubtedly. Intelligent, certainly. Will we communicate someday, probably. We have been sending out radio waves for 100 years so anyone that close has heard us. But face to face, not very likely You know that for sure? I mean could there not be things about physics that we have not discovered yet?
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Dec 31, 2023 10:45:47 GMT
Nothing with mass can move fast. Light does because it is unique in that exists but has no mass. We understand that perfectly. And it's unchangeable
You didn't fix shit
Then don't travel at light speed. Figure out another way.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Dec 31, 2023 10:49:04 GMT
What are you sure of? That there is no other sentient life in the galaxy? That it would be impossible for aliens to travel across dozens or hundreds or thousands of light years to get here? That if aliens DID come here, they would certainly make themselves known? I don't think aliens have actually been here, mainly because according to our current understanding of the laws of physics interstellar travel is all but impossible, but I can't understand how anyone can dismiss the possibility out of hand. Even with our current understanding aren't there things like wormholes that would make faster interstellar travel possible...
There other explanation for all the UAPs are they are angels. So UFO/UAP are: Aliens Angels or Don't believe your lying eyes.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Dec 31, 2023 10:52:53 GMT
You dont think our knowledge can advance? But it can't change the laws of physics.
But you can learn new things about physics, like what gravity is, because they still don't know for sure. Or is there no hope at all for us?
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Dec 31, 2023 10:57:47 GMT
I like Salon for its political and entertainment writing, but they just suck when it comes to science, and this attention grabbing headline was typical of their bullshit. Literally nothing particularly special happened in 2023 on the UFO front that hasn't been happening for decades over and over again in some form or other. Nothing ever comes of it. And there was precious little of anything resembling "science" in the entire article. You didn't the read the article because there is no science in it. It is just reporting on what has happened in the field. The amount denial over an article that says zero about aliens being real or faster than light speed, but that got read into it nontheless, is telling.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Dec 31, 2023 10:58:48 GMT
UFOs certainly exist, though I’m skeptical that they are alien spacecraft. It’s something else. We should definitely be studying the phenomena. Exactly.
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Post by Mulder and Scully on Dec 31, 2023 11:18:02 GMT
I meant regarding Ufology. These so-called UFO sightings have been bogus so far. No alien has ever visited Earth. There must be life somewhere. I doubt we'll see alien contact in our lifetime. Maybe hundreds of years from now. Who knows. So the radar is lying too? Okay. I guess a lying machine is better to contemplate than an alien invasion. The radar didn't prove that the UFOs were alien ships. Again, there's not a single shred of evidence that alien beings ever visited Earth.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Dec 31, 2023 11:25:17 GMT
So the radar is lying too? Okay. I guess a lying machine is better to contemplate than an alien invasion. The radar didn't prove that the UFOs were alien ships. Again, there's not a single shred of evidence that alien beings ever visited Earth. The article didn't come with a 1,000 miles of saying that, you cats read the "aliens" into it. We don't know what those radar signatures are. They certainly don't behave like any current technology. Therefore more study is needed, wouldn't you agree to that? Finally a former Navy commander, David Fravor, testified that in 2004 he and three of his fellow military pilots saw a white Tic-Tac shaped hovering between the Pacific Ocean and their jets, which vanished and immediately reappeared 60 miles away. The technology that we faced is far superior to anything that we had," Fravor said. "And there’s nothing we can do about it, nothing."UFOs objectively exist. However, UFOs do not have to be LGM from 1 million light years away.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 31, 2023 11:52:27 GMT
But it can't change the laws of physics.
But you can learn new things about physics, like what gravity is, because they still don't know for sure. Or is there no hope at all for us? Every photon of Electromagnetic radiation (Light, x-rays, radio waves) travels at the same precise speed, 299,792,458 metres per second. Not a fraction faster nor a fraction slower. And it doesn't matter where it comes from, the Sun, the Andromeda Galaxy, or the Cosmic Microwave Background. And you can't even come close. The closer an object get to the speed of light the more its mass increases. Energy is equivalent to mass times the speed of light squared. When the speed of light is noted as a constant, "C", this becomes something we all have seen
E=MC2
And light is unique because it exists yet has no mass. Yet light has to obey the the laws of physics. Get light too close to a black hole and it falls as quickly and permanently as a planet would
I kind of think of this as maybe a grand design. Maybe intelligent life in the Universe isn't supposed to have face to face meetings. Maybe some higher power knew that it wouldn't go right so they spread everything around too far
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Dec 31, 2023 11:56:04 GMT
But you can learn new things about physics, like what gravity is, because they still don't know for sure. Or is there no hope at all for us? Every photon of Electromagnetic radiation (Light, x-rays, radio waves) travels at the same precise speed, 299,792,458 metres per second. Not a fraction faster nor a fraction slower. And it doesn't matter where it comes from, the Sun, the Andromeda Galaxy, or the Cosmic Microwave Background. And you can't even come close. The closer an object get to the speed of light the more its mass increases. Energy is equivalent to mass times the speed of light squared. When the speed of light is noted as a constant, "C", this becomes something we all have seen
E=MC2
And light is unique because it exists yet has no mass. Yet light has to obey the the laws of physics. Get light too close to a black hole and it falls as quickly and permanently as a planet would
I kind of think of this as maybe a grand design. Maybe intelligent life in the Universe isn't supposed to have face to face meetings. Maybe some higher power knew that it wouldn't go right so they spread everything around too far
Light doesn't have time either, so what does this mean? Light is light. All those photons were created at once. Those UFOs may be information from another time. And if UFOs are not real, what are people seeing? Just from a national security POV, studying them is necessary.
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Post by faustus5 on Dec 31, 2023 12:01:03 GMT
You didn't the read the article because there is no science in it. It is just reporting on what has happened in the field. I did read the article. That's how I know there is virtually nothing with scientific content in the article, despite the lying headline which suggested otherwise. Literally nothing noteworthy happened scientifically around UFO's in 2023, which is (again, literally) the exact opposite lesson the headline wants you to take. It is telling, but maybe not in the way you think. All I am denying, for instance, is that there were any scientific advances in the study of UFO's in 2023. But then you go and bring up aliens, even though I didn't mention them myself. See?
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 31, 2023 12:05:08 GMT
Every photon of Electromagnetic radiation (Light, x-rays, radio waves) travels at the same precise speed, 299,792,458 metres per second. Not a fraction faster nor a fraction slower. And it doesn't matter where it comes from, the Sun, the Andromeda Galaxy, or the Cosmic Microwave Background. And you can't even come close. The closer an object get to the speed of light the more its mass increases. Energy is equivalent to mass times the speed of light squared. When the speed of light is noted as a constant, "C", this becomes something we all have seen
E=MC2
And light is unique because it exists yet has no mass. Yet light has to obey the the laws of physics. Get light too close to a black hole and it falls as quickly and permanently as a planet would
I kind of think of this as maybe a grand design. Maybe intelligent life in the Universe isn't supposed to have face to face meetings. Maybe some higher power knew that it wouldn't go right so they spread everything around too far
Light doesn't have time either, so what does this mean? Are we still stuck in the 19th century. Light is light. All those photons were created at once. Those UFOs may be information from another time. And if UFOs are not real, what are people seeing? Just from a national security POV, studying them is necessary. Huh? The Sun and every other of the kajillion kajillion stars are producing a kajillion, kajillion photons every second. The light bulb in your lamp on your desk is creating trillions of photons every second
Is it telling that 90% of UFO sightings happen in Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, where the military tests new weapons? Hmmmm
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Dec 31, 2023 12:14:00 GMT
You didn't the read the article because there is no science in it. It is just reporting on what has happened in the field. I did read the article. That's how I know there is virtually nothing with scientific content in the article, despite the lying headline which suggested otherwise. Literally nothing noteworthy happened scientifically around UFO's in 2023, which is (again, literally) the exact opposite lesson the headline wants you to take. It is telling, but maybe not in the way you think. All I am denying, for instance, is that there were any scientific advances in the study of UFO's in 2023. But then you go and bring up aliens, even though I didn't mention them myself. See?
Are you denying there could a national security issue. Or should we fire all those military pilots? Then there was former Navy pilot Ryan Graves, who testified that both military and commercial pilots fear stigma and even professional repercussions when they report UAP encounters. Finally a former Navy commander, David Fravor, testified that in 2004 he and three of his fellow military pilots saw a white Tic-Tac shaped hovering between the Pacific Ocean and their jets, which vanished and immediately reappeared 60 miles away. None of this is happened.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Dec 31, 2023 12:16:54 GMT
Light doesn't have time either, so what does this mean? Are we still stuck in the 19th century. Light is light. All those photons were created at once. Those UFOs may be information from another time. And if UFOs are not real, what are people seeing? Just from a national security POV, studying them is necessary. Huh? The Sun and every other of the kajillion kajillion stars are producing a kajillion, kajillion photons every second. The light bulb in your lamp on your desk is creating trillions of photons every second
Is it telling that 90% of UFO sightings happen in Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, where the military tests new weapons? Hmmmm
All light is energy and all energy was created at once.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 31, 2023 12:20:37 GMT
Huh? The Sun and every other of the kajillion kajillion stars are producing a kajillion, kajillion photons every second. The light bulb in your lamp on your desk is creating trillions of photons every second
Is it telling that 90% of UFO sightings happen in Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, where the military tests new weapons? Hmmmm
All light is energy and all energy was created at once. there is nothing different between light from an artificial source and light from the sun. Photons are photons.
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