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Post by ayatollah on Jan 17, 2024 21:49:20 GMT
Trading influence for favors is bribery, influence peddling, what you can it it's all the same. If you weren't mired in TDS you'd admit that and say he deserves whatever you think Trump deserves. The only thing truthful you've said is your dislike of Biden, but you have to stick by your figurehead. You'll swap him when you get a more suitable one. Thank you for proving my point. As I said before, if "peddling influence" were illegal, why is there an entire lobbying industry that exists for that very purpose? Let me guess. You'll evade the question with talking points. And what's funny is you're foaming at the mouth about TDS, while ignoring the fact that your guy did pretty much exactly what Biden is accused of doing when he accepted millions in free foreign cash via his DC hotel. You know, the one he sold about 5 minutes after leaving the White House? So please. Accusations of partisanship from you are just laughable. Sorry bro, but plugging the gaps in your own arguments by accusing others of bull$hit doesn't convince anybody. No you're just attacking me because you have no argument. Yes, lobbyists need to be run out of DC, but being for sale is magically perfectly legal provided no powerful enemies are out to destroy you.
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Post by mikemonger on Jan 17, 2024 22:21:09 GMT
Thank you for proving my point. As I said before, if "peddling influence" were illegal, why is there an entire lobbying industry that exists for that very purpose? Let me guess. You'll evade the question with talking points. And what's funny is you're foaming at the mouth about TDS, while ignoring the fact that your guy did pretty much exactly what Biden is accused of doing when he accepted millions in free foreign cash via his DC hotel. You know, the one he sold about 5 minutes after leaving the White House? So please. Accusations of partisanship from you are just laughable. Sorry bro, but plugging the gaps in your own arguments by accusing others of bull$hit doesn't convince anybody. No you're just attacking me because you have no argument. Yes, lobbyists need to be run out of DC, but being for sale is magically perfectly legal provided no powerful enemies are out to destroy you. My argument was that, contrary to your assertion, Trump WAS NOT accused of the same thing Biden is being accused of. Since your response has been to ignore the meanings of words and change the subject to anything EXCEPT that, I'd say I've done a damn fine Jon of proving it...lol "Yes, lobbyists need to be run out of DC" doesn't answer my question. You've officially lost the privilege of demanding I answer yours...lol
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Post by ayatollah on Jan 17, 2024 22:56:13 GMT
No you're just attacking me because you have no argument. Yes, lobbyists need to be run out of DC, but being for sale is magically perfectly legal provided no powerful enemies are out to destroy you. My argument was that, contrary to your assertion, Trump WAS NOT accused of the same thing Biden is being accused of. Since your response has been to ignore the meanings of words and change the subject to anything EXCEPT that, I'd say I've done a damn fine Jon of proving it...lol "Yes, lobbyists need to be run out of DC" doesn't answer my question. You've officially lost the privilege of demanding I answer yours...lol You've done a shitty job, swapping policy change for personal benefit or benefit to your friends is essentially the same thing, no matter if you call it influence peddling or bribery or whatever the fuck.
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Post by mikemonger on Jan 17, 2024 23:13:26 GMT
My argument was that, contrary to your assertion, Trump WAS NOT accused of the same thing Biden is being accused of. Since your response has been to ignore the meanings of words and change the subject to anything EXCEPT that, I'd say I've done a damn fine Jon of proving it...lol "Yes, lobbyists need to be run out of DC" doesn't answer my question. You've officially lost the privilege of demanding I answer yours...lol You've done a shitty job, swapping policy change for personal benefit or benefit to your friends is essentially the same thing, no matter if you call it influence peddling or bribery or whatever the fuck. The funny thing is, you only have a problem when Biden does it, but I'm the partisan hack...lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2024 10:34:35 GMT
Why do you think he is a criminal? List what you think what crimes Biden has committed? There was/is almost certainly influence peddling. Unless you can believe that countries all over the world will pay a crack-head big money for a do nothing job when just COINCIDENTALLY he was the son of the vice-president. But who cares if Hunter gets paid millions and has no experience..there's even some pressuring by him onto a Chinese official for some money
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Post by merh on Jan 18, 2024 12:56:17 GMT
There was/is almost certainly influence peddling. Unless you can believe that countries all over the world will pay a crack-head big money for a do nothing job when just COINCIDENTALLY he was the son of the vice-president. But who cares if Hunter gets paid millions and has no experience..there's even some pressuring by him onto a Chinese official for some money What job does Hunter hold in the White House? Drug addicts are manipulative. Not a chance he kept all the money for himself & shared nothing with his family? I saw drug addicts who stole from their families regularly. Broke into their parents homes. So I don't doubt Hunter threw daddy's name around. I question if daddy was actually playing. Not to mention all your evidence of bribes between 2017-2020 are moot since Joe Biden was not holding any office whatsoever & was free to pursue whatever activities he wanted. No experience? Hunter is a lawyer. His job in Ukraine was for Best business Practices or whatever its called.
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Post by merh on Jan 18, 2024 13:05:31 GMT
Why do you think he is a criminal? List what you think what crimes Biden has committed? There was/is almost certainly influence peddling. Unless you can believe that countries all over the world will pay a crack-head big money for a do nothing job when just COINCIDENTALLY he was the son of the vice-president. No experience whatsoever. Confirmation bias
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Post by hugsfromlv426 on Jan 18, 2024 13:10:58 GMT
There was/is almost certainly influence peddling. Unless you can believe that countries all over the world will pay a crack-head big money for a do nothing job when just COINCIDENTALLY he was the son of the vice-president. No experience whatsoever. Confirmation bias Yes. He had no experience in that business and yet they hired him for huge money.
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Post by Fetzer Zinfandel ♀︎ on Jan 18, 2024 13:27:18 GMT
No experience whatsoever. Confirmation bias Yes. He had no experience in that business and yet they hired him for huge money. Sure. And this happens all the time. Hunter wasn't the first, and he wasn't the last.
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Post by hugsfromlv426 on Jan 18, 2024 13:30:16 GMT
Yes. He had no experience in that business and yet they hired him for huge money. Sure. And this happens all the time. Hunter wasn't the first, and he wasn't the last. True. Chelsea also got a fat salary for a do-nothing job.
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Post by Fetzer Zinfandel ♀︎ on Jan 18, 2024 13:30:19 GMT
Sounds like a criminal. What would he otherwise need immunity for?
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Post by Fetzer Zinfandel ♀︎ on Jan 18, 2024 13:30:56 GMT
Sure. And this happens all the time. Hunter wasn't the first, and he wasn't the last. True. Chelsea also got a fat salary for a do-nothing job. Sure. And Ivanka made millions because her daddy was potus. It's a common trope.
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Post by merh on Jan 18, 2024 13:31:00 GMT
No experience whatsoever. Confirmation bias Yes. He had no experience in that business and yet they hired him for huge money. So VP at MBNA Commerce Department on e-commerce. Amtrak board Lobbyist So you are saying he had no experience when he had 18 yrs of corporate business experience when he was hired at Burisma. Sure. And Trump is a great businessman who never had any of his companes bankrupt.
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Post by merh on Jan 18, 2024 13:35:26 GMT
Yes. He had no experience in that business and yet they hired him for huge money. Sure. And this happens all the time. Hunter wasn't the first, and he wasn't the last. Except he had 18 yrs of experience at corporate lawyer stuff. He was hired by Burisma for corporate lawyer stuff, not specifically energy stuff.
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Post by hugsfromlv426 on Jan 18, 2024 13:43:55 GMT
Yes. He had no experience in that business and yet they hired him for huge money. So VP at MBNA Commerce Department on e-commerce. Amtrak board Lobbyist So you are saying he had no experience when he had 18 yrs of corporate business experience when he was hired at Burisma. Sure. And Trump is a great businessman who never had any of his companes bankrupt.Did I ever make that claim?
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