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Post by kuatorises on Jan 16, 2024 16:08:13 GMT
So what you're saying is that nobody has proven he's committed a crime? You can make up whatever selective reasoning story you want too, but the only proof will come from a conviction in a "criminal court" of law. That is all that technically counts. If Trump is found guilty, (I'm not talking about civil), then all the dirt on the Libs will be exposed. That is how politics works in the top end corridor of power. Trump will be exonerated. Stating Biden hasn't been charged with anything isn't "selective reasoning", you dingus.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Jan 16, 2024 16:10:50 GMT
You can make up whatever selective reasoning story you want too, but the only proof will come from a conviction in a "criminal court" of law. That is all that technically counts. If Trump is found guilty, (I'm not talking about civil), then all the dirt on the Libs will be exposed. That is how politics works in the top end corridor of power. Trump will be exonerated. Stating Biden hasn't been charged with anything isn't "selective reasoning", you dingus.
Biden won't be charged and the reason is he is a demented figurehead, as already discussed on here. He is not in control and is not capable of being in control. It is all a liberal ruse in witchunting Trump to desperately regain power.
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Post by kuatorises on Jan 16, 2024 16:19:25 GMT
Stating Biden hasn't been charged with anything isn't "selective reasoning", you dingus.
Biden won't be charged and the reason is he is a demented figurehead, as already discussed on here. He is not in control and is not capable of being in control. It is all a liberal ruse in witchunting Trump to desperately regain power. What is your proof he's committed crimes.
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Post by ayatollah on Jan 16, 2024 16:21:43 GMT
Lol, yeah changing policy for personal benefits isn't influence peddling... Uh huh. Um... No. It isn't. You might want to look up what the word "peddling" means...lol You tell me.
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Post by Boricanator on Jan 16, 2024 16:23:13 GMT
Because there plenty of evidence that Trump committed crimes and there is no evidence that Biden committed crimes. Where is this evidence that will convict him? The court of moronic public opinion doesn't count. Among many things, we have recording of him demanding the Georgia Secretary of State to steal the election and his admission that he kept classified documents and didn’t return them. Only stupid people think there is no evidence.
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Post by mikemonger on Jan 16, 2024 16:28:42 GMT
Um... No. It isn't. You might want to look up what the word "peddling" means...lol You tell me. Why? Based on your unwillingness to actually back up your assertion it's obvious you'll simply reject any argument I make while offering none of your own. This ain't my first rodeo...lol
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Post by ayatollah on Jan 16, 2024 19:02:50 GMT
Why? Based on your unwillingness to actually back up your assertion it's obvious you'll simply reject any argument I make while offering none of your own. This ain't my first rodeo...lol Your argument doesn't make sense on its face. An office holder using his offices powers in exchange for something, whether it benefits him personally or someone he owes favors to, is influence peddling. He traded his influence.
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Post by mikemonger on Jan 16, 2024 19:09:50 GMT
Why? Based on your unwillingness to actually back up your assertion it's obvious you'll simply reject any argument I make while offering none of your own. This ain't my first rodeo...lol Your argument doesn't make sense on its face. An office holder using his offices powers in exchange for something, whether it benefits him personally or someone he owes favors to, is influence peddling. He traded his influence. He was demanding tit-for-tat services. That's not "influence". That's bribery. The two are not the same thing. Which is why it's perfectly legal to "peddle influence". "Influence" is 'you have expressed your concerns directly to me in person and I will take them under serious consideration when making my final decision'. It isn't 'you give me this and I'll give you that.' The reason why Biden is being accused of "peddling influence" instead of "bribery" is because nobody can come up with a policy decision he made only because he received a payment of some kind.
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Post by ayatollah on Jan 16, 2024 21:02:45 GMT
Your argument doesn't make sense on its face. An office holder using his offices powers in exchange for something, whether it benefits him personally or someone he owes favors to, is influence peddling. He traded his influence. He was demanding tit-for-tat services. That's not "influence". That's bribery. The two are not the same thing. Which is why it's perfectly legal to "peddle influence". "Influence" is 'you have expressed your concerns directly to me in person and I will take them under serious consideration when making my final decision'. It isn't 'you give me this and I'll give you that.' The reason why Biden is being accused of "peddling influence" instead of "bribery" is because nobody can come up with a policy decision he made only because he received a payment of some kind. You describe influence correctly, but if you trade that to benefit you personally or politically it's corruption and it's wrong, it's not what the powers of any government office are for.
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Post by mikemonger on Jan 16, 2024 21:09:13 GMT
He was demanding tit-for-tat services. That's not "influence". That's bribery. The two are not the same thing. Which is why it's perfectly legal to "peddle influence". "Influence" is 'you have expressed your concerns directly to me in person and I will take them under serious consideration when making my final decision'. It isn't 'you give me this and I'll give you that.' The reason why Biden is being accused of "peddling influence" instead of "bribery" is because nobody can come up with a policy decision he made only because he received a payment of some kind. You describe influence correctly, but if you trade that to benefit you personally or politically it's corruption and it's wrong, it's not what the powers of any government office are for. I never claimed it wasn't wrong. I never claimed it wasn't corruption. I said it wasn't illegal. I said that politicians do it all the time. I said that the entire lobbying industry is based on it. I'm assuming since you didn't mention the Trump parts at all you were able to see the difference.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Jan 16, 2024 21:10:44 GMT
So when is Trump going to jail? As soon as he is convicted and has exhausted his appeals.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Jan 16, 2024 21:58:01 GMT
Biden won't be charged and the reason is he is a demented figurehead, as already discussed on here. He is not in control and is not capable of being in control. It is all a liberal ruse in witchunting Trump to desperately regain power. What is your proof he's committed crimes.
Where’s your proof of the crimes Trump committed over the ones Biden Administration has commited? Linking me news articles isn’t proof.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Jan 16, 2024 21:59:51 GMT
Where is this evidence that will convict him? The court of moronic public opinion doesn't count. Among many things, we have recording of him demanding the Georgia Secretary of State to steal the election and his admission that he kept classified documents and didn’t return them. Only stupid people think there is no evidence. Who is we? Where are the recordings and the veracity of them?
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Post by dlancer on Jan 16, 2024 22:42:10 GMT
Hired fake electors who sent fraudulent certificates.
Marched an angry crowd to a capitol he knew wasn't fully protected.
Spent three hours talking on the phone to states trying to secure his "win" as the riot took place.
Intentionally hid documents he himself admitted he'd get in trouble for if the government found out.
Demanded Zelensky to make a public announcement into Joe Biden.
Granted, over half of that stuff was probably Giuliani's idea. But Trump gets the blame until he officially throws Rudy under.
That’s not telling me why Biden Administration isn’t criminal, only looking for reasons to find why Trump is criminal. Ain't anyone's job to prove a negative homie. Burden of proof is always on the positive claim.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Jan 16, 2024 23:06:48 GMT
That’s not telling me why Biden Administration isn’t criminal, only looking for reasons to find why Trump is criminal. Ain't anyone's job to prove a negative homie. Burden of proof is always on the positive claim. Except my op question is going by the assumption that Biden Admin is just as criminal as what Trump is alleged to be, but Trump gets the blame and Biden is exonerated. Who is actually going to convict Trump, apart from libtard media zombies?
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